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I'm still not convinced he left the Marines. I'm sure his fight with Akainu was very real, but I have a feeling both planned on his loss being a benefit for the Marines to undermine piracy. The way he reassures Smoker makes me feel like this is the case, plus, his codename was never replaced.

The manga is about Luffy lmao

I think he means more the concept of battles on their own, and less the actual substance of the plot. A lot of shonen make fights and powerscaling so insanely big/serious that it really trivializes many of the earlier fights. In OP the ceiling has been known so we sort of know what to expect...

Nope, it's the ships talking to each other via Den Den Mushi (theres a look out for a reason who spots Zunisha): You can also see the Gorosei are only talking to each other and not a Den Den Mushi. These last 2 pages are confusing because Oda decided to show 2 scenes at once interchangeably...

In all seriousness, I don't know why anyone is arguing at this point about this. Remaining Yonko, Admirals, Gorosei, Im, Rocks(?), etc, they all have their roles to play and are all going to be tied in the endgame plot at this point in their own way, regardless of who's minimally stronger than who.

Why are you asking me this question? Ask the dumbasses who keep saying Shanks is not an antagonist in the plot, when by definition, he is lol.

Once again, another brainlet saying I believe Shanks is evil lmao And if you are referring to this post: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/one-piece-chapter-1037-spoiler-discussion.20455/post-2331430 The fodder did not talk to the Gorosei, they were talking separately about Nika...

Pot calling the kettle black. You think he's not and you use headcanon act like the opposite is true, especially when this very chapter shows Shanks NOT being an ally to Luffy lmao. Like do you even read the dialogue and story? No, powerscaling nonsense doesn't matter in a shonen where...

And people keep taking the intent of the author to suggest Shanks is eViL. Like Satan evil because everyone is being extreme and can't imagine characters having layers or being remotely complex. No, I don't think Shanks is evil, stop saying I think this. I think he's an antagonist. An...

Nope. I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before and I'm tired of people painting a very black and white picture of me with this character. I never said he was a super villain. Read my sig post before insinuating this is my point with this character. The point is, he ain't Luffy's...

Seriously, I can't believe a page like this can release and people still think Shanks is Luffy's ally and not the very least an antagonist: This is like the 6th or 7th time Oda has given Shanks a very dark/menacing presence that counters a lot of the other side you see of him, even in this...

He's literally going after One Piece, by definition he's an antagonist because he is hindering the progression of the protagonist. Hes also clearly going after Luffy's subordinates. I suggest people should stop assuming Shanks is this great ally to Luffy. We've known since Punk Hazard that...

True, but there is a written event where he prevented Kaido from going to Marineford, and still showed up himself just days later unharmed to stop Akainu and end a war himself That has to account for something.

It means Shanks can fight him and stop him from going to Marineford lol. And he can do it with no visual injury just a few days later. This is also a Shonen and antagonists don't get weaker so....

Only one alive too:usoprice: And he stopped Kaido from showing up at Marineford. And he was unscathed lol. But everyone likes to downplay the GOAT for doing GOAT things, it's human nature :sadgrin:

Honestly not sure, but I can imagine him just being the crew's best COO user outside of Shanks maybe or something. It depends on how Oda diversifies this crew in the future

Wait....Porcupine Tree has a new album out???

Ramei Hakke is not his best attack. He has variations used against Luffy that are stronger. And clearly the Flame Hakke move was his best considering it was their final clash

Didn't start with Luffy, go back to Punk Hazard or any arc where comedic running is used.

Pluton maybe