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Uh, no. I'm talking about what informed my read over time too, I'm sure you understand that voting can begin a discussion, it does not have to be the end point. I came out of our back and forth reasonably confident you were Scum, but there was unfortunately nothing much to be done about it.

I don't know what Grammaton discrediting my push has to do with this - he's certainly not infallible. I voted you because you were echoing the same sentiments scum were proposing, and you were being far too vague for my liking over your claimed actions (for example, your "I hit the indies" was...

There is no helping out a player that can only win with themselves. In this case, if he illustrated a wincon he could not achieve, he would end up lynched.

I'm not sure I agree Town were burned by him, though. He was treated with healthy suspicion throughout and the moment he becomes more of an issue he gets dealt with, it's not like town placed their faith into him.

I mean in this specific game.

I don't feel like town got especially burned here? Depends on the player claiming, surely?

I hope I've begun to change your mind somewhat here.

That happens when I get lynched Day 2 by Scum and it's Town predominantly assisting me where I need it.

How is it "simping" when he knew I was going to clear him? I'm quite certain both Emi and Nana would have done the same. It was a perfectly reasonable position at the time.

I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Ignoring you can be attained by filtering over you anyway without using the forum tools.

Hope to see you in more games here.

It was split across a few chats - there were some mentions of it in this thread, some in the Crime chat. If anything to me this game just underlined the importance of, when leading as town, you need *several* players keeping everyone informed, because so much information gets lost it was like...

I didn't mention this, but he somewhat botched it because he claimed death miller originally and restated it. I don't know why this wasn't pressed further, but over time it got accepted that he was a miller, so there wasn't really much room to argue it, and with how fragmented the information...

It wasn't OMGUS, your argument was weird, and I didn't like how you passively claimed your targets as if it was a side thought for you, it didn't strike me as at all natural. It looked like you were attempting to discredit what I was saying on the basis of me being Indie, which was obviously flawed.

It was on OJ, one of my Mafia senpai ran it there. I could probably run something similar sometime.

Once played a game where there were three cults - Red, Green and Blue (the Pokemon trainers) were the leaders, and every other player was a Pokemon. Was neat.

You keep dressing it up as this - burning abilities to take out players you don't need to eliminate is just always suboptimal. I hope I make myself clear - I don't care to play with players who play out of spite for others because they don't like them, nor do I care for players who try to bully...

You were scum. What's the problem?

Delusional. I said that last day phase, towards the very end, and only if it would otherwise result in a town loss. You already got me lynched, you burned any bridge there was.

If I claim Indie you can be reasonbly certain I am a true Indie (I don't class Serial as Indie), I may lie about elements of my wincon, but I certainly won't actively screw over town.