Oda made Luffy involved in Jack's defeat with the sky splitting allowing Sulongs to reload, in that case Inu/Neko at least had a closer connection to Jack/Pero than Luffy, Luffy has a much closer connection to Big Mom than Kid/Law.
If Luffy does something that unintentionally fucks Big Mom...
It is 400 chapters of history with Big Mom, in Wano he said he'd take her down, and that he'd surpass the both of them... She came to Wano for Luffy and Luffy alone.
Luffy beating Kaido 1vs1 is a better feat than Kid and Law beating Big Mom together, I just don't think they have the character...
This goes back to Fishman Island, Punk Hazard and yes was a BIG part of WCI, with strong connections to her, but this was all reaffirmed fairly recently.
When he first saw Big Mom on Onigashima he restated he'd beat her after Kaido.
On the rooftop on Ch1000 he said he'd surpass both of them as...
Big Mom said she will betray Kaido to Pero and Luffy has said he'll take her down.
Kid and Law have proven they can semi-hang which is better than I thought they'd get. Why does Law need to beat her to learn about the will of D lol...
Enma is an amplifier and Kozaburo's masterpiece. Zoro *did*...
They have no connection to her, I see her running away either through double crossing Kaido or out of fear when Kaido loses and more of the alliance start meddling in her fight.
Her crew are still out there, somewhere, after all.
I hope they don't, they have enough of a win from making her bleed tbh.
Would dehype the feat if they take down 1 yonko before Luffy takes down Kaido.
I'd feel bad for BM if she came to Wano to kill Luffy only to end up beaten by some hax from two much weaker SNs.
Completely different situations actually.
Factually stating who Luffy beat is different from someone fighting two people and grouping them together as being troublesome 1 billion beli men, or Zoro looking for a way to the roof desperately and not being able to distinguish a perceived difference...
I never said King wasn't stronger than Queen, the gap just isn't massive, and certainly not comparable to the gap between yonko and YC1.
Marco said both were problematic billion beli men, showing no difference in the way he treated them.
Zoro said either path to the rooftop would be problematic...
Not equal, but near equal, the gap is relatively small, nothing to suggest otherwise. Marco and Zoro agree.
Yes King and Queen are Kaido's number 2 and 3 with Kaido being number 1, and in that example Queen incorrectly thought he was dealing with the strawhats number 2 because of Sanji's bounty...
Kozaburo would slap his 90 year old grandpa balls in your face if you insulted Enma and Zoro like that.
Enma only "nerfs" you if you are unworthy, and brings out the best in you if you are worthy, luckily Zoro had Enma and is worthy, otherwise the best he could have hoped for would be to stall...
King and Queen's bounties are 5% apart, they are portrayed back to back, Queen gives no deference to King, Marco compares them as equals, Zoro compares them as equals.
Katakuri is unanimously respected by everyone except Perospero (for jealous political reasons) as being the heir to BM pirates...
Zoro explicitly wanted to knock Kaido down, and explicitly used everythign he had into that attack, using what is known as his ultimate attack.
It didn't knock Kaido down, Kaido said he should be happy enough for what he achieved (even if he failed to knock him down), a moment later Luffy...
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