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i'll try my best. 1656535536 yeah im not stopping to have sex just because protection isnt 100% effective lmao. aint gonna have any kids either

telling people they should be aborted because of X -> not ok, just cruel aborting people because of X -> perfectly fine. 1656535315 this doesnt really follow

so what is it? sex with protection or no sex at all because protection isnt 100%? some peeps even use double protection (pill and condom) and still get fucking pregnant. and afaik, doctors dont just sterilize young healthy people. 1656534949 "lets not pretend" - sounds like you know they arent...

yes, and you should still use protection when having sex but dont want to get kids, even though its not 100% effective. It not being 100% effective doesnt mean its completely ineffective. how the fuck did you think this was a legit argument? 1656534635 no one said not to use protection wtf?!

so you never have sex if its not for reproduction?

so you been telling those kids they should have been aborted?

spoiler alert: protection is not 100% effective

sure they will try. hmu when it actually happens. me not having future sight powers is not ignorance lmfao

You ok bro? So you are not arguing against the pro-life point? then its just random rambling? key word "many" and im not even sure whether that is true. So yeah, i definitely dont care about the sentience, and pro-lifers clearly dont either. Plants are also living beings btw. You are awfully...

i dont know what is so hard to get with my comment. but im basically talking about this: the special cases pro-choice people bring up constitute a very small minority in abortions. im talking about the reasons for the abortion. Social and economic reasons -> getting the child would be...

Person - definition of person by The Free Dictionary "a living human" - "an individual human being" - "a human being as distinguished from an animal or a thing" a fetus fits plenty definitions of "person" 1656521519 you think they will manage to do that tho?

you are twisting my words here buddy. I didnt say it is a convenience to get an abortion, i said most abortions are for reasons of convenience.

:okay: pro-lifers point is about a new unique human life thats growing inside a womans body. Nothing you say here has anything to do with that. Sentience is literally irrelevant to whether something is alive or not, at least biologically, and not everyone will care about any philosophical...

well and thats where people disagree. that she has the choice to terminate another human being, mostly for reasons of convenience.

some women surely think that way. women who have had miscarriages most likely wont think that way.

They are alive, biologically speaking. This notion that they become alive at birth is fucking insane ngl. And technically we are all just "clumps of cells"

Yes regarding the termination of a living human being.

Im not supporting a ban on abortion anyway. So yeah sure

Im going to respectfully disagree. Sure,this has implications that go beyond the problem of abortion. But the conservatives point with abortion is still the new body inside the pregnant woman and not her body per se. Which was what i responded to. And something not being sentient doesnt mean...

its about the bodies that are growing inside the women tho.