Roe vs Wade Overturned?
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Im going to respectfully disagree. Sure,this has implications that go beyond the problem of abortion. But the conservatives point with abortion is still the new body inside the pregnant woman and not her body per se. Which was what i responded to.
And something not being sentient doesnt mean its not alive btw. At least not when we talk about biological definitions or something.
So you better get over fetuses being living human beings (in early developmental stages)
And something not being sentient doesnt mean its not alive btw. At least not when we talk about biological definitions or something.
So you better get over fetuses being living human beings (in early developmental stages)
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But this still won't stop abortion. Read studies and figures about the issue like what some people posted here before:Banning abortions only makes women seek out unsafe methods.
So nothing is won by banning abortions. But what is LOST is women's self determination.
If you want to reduce abortions improve the life circumstances of young mothers and their children.
Provide them free healthcare, daycare, education etc, all that basic stuff that people need to live normally
So nothing is won by banning abortions. But what is LOST is women's self determination.
If you want to reduce abortions improve the life circumstances of young mothers and their children.
Provide them free healthcare, daycare, education etc, all that basic stuff that people need to live normally
Except they aren't alive until they are born and have no sense of pain until the third trimester, which was the previous limitation on abortions in the US and where most countries with legal abortions draw the line anyway.
There's a difference between aborting a 6 month old foetus and a 2 week old clump of cells - the latter is no different to having a wank in terms of what you 'kill'. I must be a complete genocidal maniac! Have me arrested!
There's a difference between aborting a 6 month old foetus and a 2 week old clump of cells - the latter is no different to having a wank in terms of what you 'kill'. I must be a complete genocidal maniac! Have me arrested!
Yes look up the average age of those men in congress
It's a womens choice if she is 6 weeks pregnant and does not want to have a child.
The funnier part is when they are forced to have the child and need gov't assistance those same people tell those women to kick rocks... talk about ironic
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It's a womens choice if she is 6 weeks pregnant and does not want to have a child.
The funnier part is when they are forced to have the child and need gov't assistance those same people tell those women to kick rocks... talk about ironic
What is extreme about my post?
All I had done is:
1. pointed out the logic doesn't slide if you apply it to other situations
2. provided a source and research from one of the biggest sexual health institutes in the world that show banning abortion is counterintuitive
3. pointed out that if it really is about the kids as most people anti-abortion argue, they should be campaigning for several if not hundreds of things absent in the US, and yet they aren't
They are three basic, principled arguments. If you have a problem with it, try and share your thoughts as to why you disagree.
And you realise most politicians that actually argue against this use Aristotle to support their argument and consider him more credible than scientifically backed research, right? He GUESSED (over 2300 years ago) an embryo is alive at 40 days pregnancy for males and a foetus is alive at 90 days for females...
All I had done is:
1. pointed out the logic doesn't slide if you apply it to other situations
2. provided a source and research from one of the biggest sexual health institutes in the world that show banning abortion is counterintuitive
3. pointed out that if it really is about the kids as most people anti-abortion argue, they should be campaigning for several if not hundreds of things absent in the US, and yet they aren't
They are three basic, principled arguments. If you have a problem with it, try and share your thoughts as to why you disagree.
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And you realise most politicians that actually argue against this use Aristotle to support their argument and consider him more credible than scientifically backed research, right? He GUESSED (over 2300 years ago) an embryo is alive at 40 days pregnancy for males and a foetus is alive at 90 days for females...
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