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2 ranks below Wado and Shusui.* :feelsokeman: I, too, used to think Sandai was 3rd grade sword too but it's actually 4th grade. Yeah, as you said, its toughness is impressive and no different from others, so far. Somehow the rank increase through blackening doesnt make sense to me, maybe...

I am still not buying that whole rank increase when Kokuto. I will have to be convinced by it happening in front of me. But yeah, Shodai is 1st grade sword but I dont know if it has better hardness than 2nd grade Shusui. I would not place it above Shusui in hardness since that's a special...

The best sword ever. :catrude: