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Luffy went from Marco/King to Old Rayleigh or Fujitora level, not Cracker to Big Mom. That's fucking dumb. He was Y1C in WCI. People have got to stop wanking YCs. Cracker was beaten as a joke. There was no way he was Luffy's level. He just had a good counter. Luffy could break out of parasite...

I didn't say he doesn't have Haki. I said we have no evidence of him using it, or at least black hardening. Even if he used Haki, his impact would not surpass that of Machvise, who is approximately 162 times stronger than that move. Haki gives you a boost, but it's not 162 times.

Squard is the strongest Yonko executive. He is the only one to make a Yonko bleed. He was so fast Whitebeard couldn't even see him coming. I think he might mid diff Marco tbh. I don't think you read what I wrote. He can do that >100x better than Queen. It literally means shit. There is 0...

These "arguments" have descended into pure stupidity at this point. You realize Machvise can literally perform a >100x better feat than Queen? Machvise: 10 000 000 kg Brachiousaurus: 62 000 kg Is Machvise PK level by your logic? Hajrudin literally countered that move with a punch. That's...

By the criteria people have set forth, then Machvise > Queen > Katakuri. :believe: