I'm 100% confident that all of the SHs will be getting fights this arc. Whether they all get 1 v 1s tho is a bit iffy. Reasons being that:
- There are just to many characters in this arc so I'm not sure if Oda can afford to draw that many 1 v 1s
- Some SHs are not just very compatible for 1 v 1s e.g. Robin (I know some folks will be livid if she doesn't get one but robin's abilities simply more suited for support)
That said, I think it's very very unlikely that the any SHs that are not the M3 or Jinbe will be matched up against the Tobi Roppo in 1 v 1s. Tbh, when the tobi roppo were first introduced particularly with two girls as part of their group a part of me thought we were going to be seeing them matched up against the weaker SHs but after getting a bit of characterization on them and seeing their abilities in full display, it soon became apparent that that was wishful thinking. Tbf I'm not really sure how anyone can still think the weaker SHs will be facing them in 1 v 1s given their characterization and feats so far.
Some of the Tobi Roppo's characterization and feats are as follows:
- Page One survived an onslaught from RS Sanji (i.e Sanji with the first reveal of the RS and he fought against pretty insane hax too boot and managed to survive and remain relevant)
- the Flying Six have been established as challengers for the All Star Seats and Kaidou (i.e. same person that called Doffy a weakling btw) is so proud of them that he even wants to personally introduce directly to Lilin.
- the Calamities need to use Kaidou's name to summon all of Tobi Roppo together as a few off them would just plain out refuse a direct summons from the calamities.
- Oda's established a bit of antagonistic relationship between Who's Who (a Tobi Roppo) and Queen (a Calamity), with both intending to take each other out. I don't know about y'all but that is a bit too much respect for a mid tier fighter or below.
- Denjiro who should scale to around base Jack level at least, opted to trick and capture/handcuff Sasaki as opposed to engaging him in a fight. I'm not saying that Dejiro woulda lost to Sasaki but I don't think Denjiro would have taken the measures he did if it was easy to take Sasaki out. Moreover the narration that followed described Denjiro's actions as "subduing one of the troublesome/dangerous Tobi Roppo"
- Page One brushed off a direct hit (no guard) from a G3 Elephant Gun with minimal damage
- Base Ulti overpowered Luffy in base (not just matched btw, overpowered!) and her Zoan form had so much raw strength that she woulda forced Luffy to use Gear 4th but for Yamato blind siding her with a powerful attack.
- Ulti tanked Yamato's Raimei Hakei attack. How that attack compares to Kaidou's is not very clear but Ulti hinted at it being about half as strong as Kaidou's attack (i.e. the same attack that one shot Luffy in G4 boundman). Even if we cannot say exactly how strong Yamato's Raimei Hakei was, by just comparing the amount of damage Ulti received from the Raimei Hakei to the amount of damage P1 took from Luffy's elephant gun attack you can tell that Yamato's Raimei Hakei is significantly stronger than Luffy's EG.
- The Flying Six were tasked with catching Yamato who is not only strong enough to casually parry Luffy's elephant gun but was also able to block base Luffy's new armament attack with her shield taking no damage. (Note: There is no sense in Kaidou telling the Flying Six to capture Yamato if they were not capable of accomplishing the feat, regardless of how difficult it is)
At this point I don't think it is an understatement to call the Tobi Roppo psuedo calamities of sorts. Now with that established, none of the SHs with the exception of Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Nami & Ussop and maybe Franky (considering he's had the opportunity to tweak Germa tech going into Onigashima) have gotten any powerups going to Onigashima and even then, there is still an expectation that the each of the M3 will still be getting at least one more additional power up for their climax battles this arc. So now you mean to tell me that the weaker SHs that still scale to somewhere around Doffy's officer level fighters (e.g. Senor Pink etc.) and that is the higher treshold like Franky, will be facing the Flying Six who are very much looking to be even stronger than Lilin's veterans (Vergo & Pica are debatable but the likes of Oven are definitely stronger than Diamante & Trebol in my opinion & the later two are significantly stronger than the likes of Senor Pink) with just zero or one power up? Coz at this point it is very unlikely that they get two.
Personally I think the weaker SHs could defo face off against the Tobi Roppo in 2 v 1s but I'm not really seeing how 1 v 1 are feasible at this point. Moreover, the dynamics between the Calamities & the Tobi Roppo is completely different from the dyamics btw Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe and the rest of the SHs. Tobi Roppo are challenging for the All Star seats as such they are much closer to the calamities whereas there is an insane gap btw Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe and the rest of the SHs.
Back on the topic of the 1 v 1s tho, I hope the the weaker SHs at least get 1 v 1s against some of the Oniwabanshu/Mimawarigumi etc. even if they end up fighting in 2 v 1s for the climax be it against the Tobi Roppo or the Numbers.
- There are just to many characters in this arc so I'm not sure if Oda can afford to draw that many 1 v 1s
- Some SHs are not just very compatible for 1 v 1s e.g. Robin (I know some folks will be livid if she doesn't get one but robin's abilities simply more suited for support)
That said, I think it's very very unlikely that the any SHs that are not the M3 or Jinbe will be matched up against the Tobi Roppo in 1 v 1s. Tbh, when the tobi roppo were first introduced particularly with two girls as part of their group a part of me thought we were going to be seeing them matched up against the weaker SHs but after getting a bit of characterization on them and seeing their abilities in full display, it soon became apparent that that was wishful thinking. Tbf I'm not really sure how anyone can still think the weaker SHs will be facing them in 1 v 1s given their characterization and feats so far.
Some of the Tobi Roppo's characterization and feats are as follows:
- Page One survived an onslaught from RS Sanji (i.e Sanji with the first reveal of the RS and he fought against pretty insane hax too boot and managed to survive and remain relevant)
- the Flying Six have been established as challengers for the All Star Seats and Kaidou (i.e. same person that called Doffy a weakling btw) is so proud of them that he even wants to personally introduce directly to Lilin.
- the Calamities need to use Kaidou's name to summon all of Tobi Roppo together as a few off them would just plain out refuse a direct summons from the calamities.
- Oda's established a bit of antagonistic relationship between Who's Who (a Tobi Roppo) and Queen (a Calamity), with both intending to take each other out. I don't know about y'all but that is a bit too much respect for a mid tier fighter or below.
- Denjiro who should scale to around base Jack level at least, opted to trick and capture/handcuff Sasaki as opposed to engaging him in a fight. I'm not saying that Dejiro woulda lost to Sasaki but I don't think Denjiro would have taken the measures he did if it was easy to take Sasaki out. Moreover the narration that followed described Denjiro's actions as "subduing one of the troublesome/dangerous Tobi Roppo"
- Page One brushed off a direct hit (no guard) from a G3 Elephant Gun with minimal damage
- Base Ulti overpowered Luffy in base (not just matched btw, overpowered!) and her Zoan form had so much raw strength that she woulda forced Luffy to use Gear 4th but for Yamato blind siding her with a powerful attack.
- Ulti tanked Yamato's Raimei Hakei attack. How that attack compares to Kaidou's is not very clear but Ulti hinted at it being about half as strong as Kaidou's attack (i.e. the same attack that one shot Luffy in G4 boundman). Even if we cannot say exactly how strong Yamato's Raimei Hakei was, by just comparing the amount of damage Ulti received from the Raimei Hakei to the amount of damage P1 took from Luffy's elephant gun attack you can tell that Yamato's Raimei Hakei is significantly stronger than Luffy's EG.
- The Flying Six were tasked with catching Yamato who is not only strong enough to casually parry Luffy's elephant gun but was also able to block base Luffy's new armament attack with her shield taking no damage. (Note: There is no sense in Kaidou telling the Flying Six to capture Yamato if they were not capable of accomplishing the feat, regardless of how difficult it is)
At this point I don't think it is an understatement to call the Tobi Roppo psuedo calamities of sorts. Now with that established, none of the SHs with the exception of Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Nami & Ussop and maybe Franky (considering he's had the opportunity to tweak Germa tech going into Onigashima) have gotten any powerups going to Onigashima and even then, there is still an expectation that the each of the M3 will still be getting at least one more additional power up for their climax battles this arc. So now you mean to tell me that the weaker SHs that still scale to somewhere around Doffy's officer level fighters (e.g. Senor Pink etc.) and that is the higher treshold like Franky, will be facing the Flying Six who are very much looking to be even stronger than Lilin's veterans (Vergo & Pica are debatable but the likes of Oven are definitely stronger than Diamante & Trebol in my opinion & the later two are significantly stronger than the likes of Senor Pink) with just zero or one power up? Coz at this point it is very unlikely that they get two.
Personally I think the weaker SHs could defo face off against the Tobi Roppo in 2 v 1s but I'm not really seeing how 1 v 1 are feasible at this point. Moreover, the dynamics between the Calamities & the Tobi Roppo is completely different from the dyamics btw Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe and the rest of the SHs. Tobi Roppo are challenging for the All Star seats as such they are much closer to the calamities whereas there is an insane gap btw Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe and the rest of the SHs.
Back on the topic of the 1 v 1s tho, I hope the the weaker SHs at least get 1 v 1s against some of the Oniwabanshu/Mimawarigumi etc. even if they end up fighting in 2 v 1s for the climax be it against the Tobi Roppo or the Numbers.
Last edited:
