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#21
I hope the raid suit gets adapted to just the cape and making the boosters looking like guns for Sanji to use with his hands. This way he has stuff to do with his hands even during skywalk and it’d really fit his aesthetic (and frankys type of engineering)
 
#22
Of course it will be upgraded, you can’t expect an engineer who specializes in the making of extremely advanced weapons to study the RS without upgrading it in some capacity. Makes no sense.

If RS could be upgraded, Judge would have made the upgrade already.
This is the first and final version of RS.

Franky and Usopp can only make DESIGN changes. They can't upgrade it.
How was Judge supposed to upgrade it without being there ?
 
#27
Every invention can be improved. Judge did what he could with what he had, Franky has access to Vegapunk’s technology.
And Franky has nothing close to the RS in his arsenal.
His shogun franky was pierced by Baby5 while King couldn't pierce RS.

What makes you think Judge doesn't have Vegapunks technology?
The guy that was his partner > the guy that found some of his blueprints
 
#28
And Franky has nothing close to the RS in his arsenal.
His shogun franky was pierced by Baby5 while King couldn't pierce RS.

What makes you think Judge doesn't have Vegapunks technology?
The guy that was his partner > the guy that found some of his blueprints
Yes, they did work together several years ago, when they were working on the Lineage Factor. It had nothing to do with Vegapunk’s weapons. Besides, you’re assuming Franky can’t be better than Judge at creating powerful weapons while his feats in this area are much better.
 
#31
No... Thats doesn't make any sense and here's why.....
These Commanders and Top Tiers are Fantastic in close combat on top of having Devil fruit abilities, Haki , Elements ext.....Versatility is needed to grow which is why Oda gave Sanji an element in enies lobby but Commanders and top tiers have elemental abilities as well. So does it really make sense for Sanji to beat characters like this with Just Kicks, Haki and fire when they are also Great at kicks, haki and fire?

Katakuri and Doflamingo are on a whole other fucking level (hence the CoC). Stop comparing Queen to them. Jozu >= Queen, and he was turned into a chair.
 
#32
The Germa are strong AND use raid suits. It's literally an Iron Man suit except you need to be capable of winning the real life Iron Man tournament to get it. It's referenced through the arc that Sanji is strong, so obviously they give it to him because they respect that
Sanji is a Vinsmoke, when your born a Vinsmoke you get a Raid Suit..... I think its very clear the strength of the individual in the suit matters, otherwise why would Judge have his children train 24/7? and Why would he be so pressed about how strong Sanji is as a child? Sanji is still gonna fight the same way, its just his durability is buffed. Defense is What Sanji always Lacked as a combatant so he needed it. He's not indestructible or anything, Im sure if King Hit Sanji 2 to 3 times with that Same attack Sanji would get fucked up.
My point is that I don't like Sanji getting free upgrades while the other 2 M3 have to gain them through blood and tears, just what he was doing too until before the raid suit or at the very least pre time skip. Anyway this is just my idea, if you think the RS is fine and cool as the new Sanji power up okay.
 

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#33
Raid suit wont get upgraded, Sanji himself said "Franky and Usopp might able to redesign this raid suit"

so, i guess there is no upgrade and if we see new things from raid suit, its not a new upgrade because the feature is already in the raid suit from the beginning and we never see that.
With that being said, i cant wait Sanji fighting with his raid suit again :finally:
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#36
I'm gonna try to summarize why the Raid Suit is important to Sanji's character.

First, he is, but he actually ISN'T a Vinsmoke. Sanji doesn't have the modified genes, like his siblings. His mother took some poison/medicine to make at least one of her children a normal human. During his life, he was seen as a failure, who, instead of being a bitch ass noble who deserves only to be beheaded, was a kind and normal kid. He got trashed for his entire life for this, and found a passion in cooking. Something that he thought was fun to do, even if he wasn't any good. His mother was happy for him. But she died and he was alone. Reiju never confronted her father or brothers, because she was afraid that she would get trashed as well.
When Sanji left, he cut all ties with the Vinsmokes, even Judge himself didn't think of Sanji as his son, only failure. Watch Game of Thrones and see how Tywin treats Tyrion.
Sanji would later find a father figure in Zeff. He would learn how to cook from him, and would also get trained by him. He got strong not because he was trained to be a perfect soldier, but because Zeff was a competent teacher and taught Sanji how to fight with his legs, so he would keep his hands only for cooking.
During WCI, Judge uses Sanji as a sacrificial lamb, not as a son, to form an alliance with Big Mom. His ties with Sanji were only convenient for him at the time, but he still refused to see Sanji as a son, only as a tool. His brothers were still the same dicks they were before.
They humilliated him, trapped him, blackmailed him, put him in a corner from where he could not escape or ask for help. Pure despair.
And YET, despite ALL THAT, he STILL TELLS LUFFY THAT HE WANTS TO SAVE THEM. NOT JUST REIJU, BUT ALL OF THEM. Why? Because his biggest trait, is what Judge thought was his biggest flaw. His kindness. He doesn't want to save them just because they are still his family. He wants to save them because it was the right thing for him to do. It he were to turn a blind eye to it, he thought his father ZEFF would scold him for it. He deeply respects ZEFF as his father. His mentor, his guide.
Then he saves the douche squad. Much to their surprise. he heartless, emotionless douche squad was simply flabbergasted that the "failure" would be their savior. So they decide to "repay"him. They later save Sanji, and decide to give him a Raid Suit, because he was still weak. But instead of trashing him for it, out of respect, they simply helped him to improve. Like a normal family should do.
But it wouldn't erase all the bad memories, so Sanji, at first, didn't want to use it. Germa science is what created the abominations that were his brothers, caused his mother's death, and was the ambition that drove Judge to trash Sanji all his life.
BUT, he was not strong enough to go for the future enemies. They would need EVERY help they could get. How could he simply ignore that boost right in front of him? So, being too soon or not, he decided to use the Raid Suit, despite EVERYTHING he went through with the Vinsmokes. He deciding to use it, because getting stronger and protecting his friends is more important to him than his grudge. His friends brought him enough hope to break his trauma. Him using the Raid Suit is the culmination of ALL OF THAT.

I REALLY struggle to understand why people can't at least recognize this fact. You don't have to like the character, you dont have to like the raid suit, but it's not a "mere power up just because". There's A LOT going on behind it.


P.S: Enma is still trash. Give back Shuusui.
 
#37
Katakuri and Doflamingo are on a whole other fucking level (hence the CoC). Stop comparing Queen to them. Jozu >= Queen, and he was turned into a chair.
Imagine equating Jozu to Queen based on literally nothing.
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My point is that I don't like Sanji getting free upgrades while the other 2 M3 have to gain them through blood and tears, just what he was doing too until before the raid suit or at the very least pre time skip. Anyway this is just my idea, if you think the RS is fine and cool as the new Sanji power up okay.
Lol Sanji earned the Raid Suit. It's a standard part of his family fighting tool which he never used because they never thought he was a warrior enough. His fights in WCI repeatedly had people say "wow he's as strong as Germa", and he was rewarded with the Suit at the end of it. He earned it.

Or would you prefer he just spin hard and get hotter fire?
 
#38
My point is that I don't like Sanji getting free upgrades while the other 2 M3 have to gain them through blood and tears, just what he was doing too until before the raid suit or at the very least pre time skip. Anyway this is just my idea, if you think the RS is fine and cool as the new Sanji power up okay.
Thats The thing he was never shown working hard or developing his skills before....... How many characters did Sanji beat prior to the raid suit that required him to grow? 1............ and even then I'm sure Sanji didn't train to develop diable jambe, it literally just happened out of nowhere.
 

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#40
Raid suit wont get upgraded, Sanji himself said "Franky and Usopp might able to redesign this raid suit"

so, i guess there is no upgrade and if we see new things from raid suit, its not a new upgrade because the feature is already in the raid suit from the beginning and we never see that.
With that being said, i cant wait Sanji fighting with his raid suit again :finally:
@stealthblack @Chrono @Zoro D Goat
This is how Sanji's RS would look like if Franky and Usopp decided to change the design.:steef::steef:
 
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