Powers & Abilities 102 confirms Zoro is not VC nor is he second strongest.

Doesn’t matter if Bepo is weaker than Chopper.

Every Kid and Heart Pirate is weaker than every Strawhat, with the only exception of Killer. That’s why the Strawhats have been taking on important opponents while the Kid/Heart Pirates have literally been fighting fodder all arc.

But in the Heart Pirates, it’s still Bepo > the others.

And Penguin and Shachi also > Jean Bart, that’s why Law brought them with him to Onigashima while Jean Bart was left behind with all the other fodder on the submarine.
 
Tbh it's kinda interesting that Oda dropped this color-spread not long after the whole "wings" fiasco where a decent chunk of people were pushing Zoro = Sanji in response to that comment
People are fucking unable to see the other side of the coin.
They act like only one dynamic exists

For every Sanji-Zoro duo moment there is at minimum one for Luffy-Zoro.


-Luffy Zoro dynamic sets apart the latter from the rest of the crewmembers inferior to him
-Zoro Sanji dynamic sets apart the cook from the other crewmembers that are inferior to him

That's why Zoro is closer to Luffy wrt Sanji, while Sanji is closer to Zoro wrt the strongest member of the remaining crew
 
Tbh it's kinda interesting that Oda dropped this color-spread not long after the whole "wings" fiasco where a decent chunk of people were pushing Zoro = Sanji in response to that comment
Wings was literally just making it up to Sanji fans because Zoro was fighting the Yonko and getting CoC, Sanji was getting captured by a Flying Six and some fodder lol.

It was basically him saying “look, although I humiliate him a lot, he is still the third strongest Strawhat and part of the M3.”

Then Oda went flying right back into Zoro wank with that colourspread, giving him ACoC and beating King, the guy Sanji fanboys were going to church and praying on their knees that Sanji would fight and beat.
 
But in the Heart Pirates, it’s still Bepo > the others.
And yet Bepo is the one being carried by the others, and not Penguin nor Shachi.

Both the answer in the SBS and what was seen in the latest chapter are reasons to believe a lot more that at least Shachi and Penguin are stronger than Bepo.

Bepo's Sulong form is like Goku's Oozaru form; It's an exception, and not how Bepo normally is.

Also, I think you missed Chrono's point.
I think his point was not that Chopper is stronger than Bepo; That comes without saying.
It's that Bepo being a white bear mink is not a valid excuse for him to be so weak to fire, considering how Chopper is also supposed to have a weakness to fire but has never looked so pathetic like Bepo because of fire.
 
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Wings was literally just making it up to Sanji fans because Zoro was fighting the Yonko and getting CoC, Sanji was getting captured by a Flying Six and some fodder lol.

It was basically him saying “look, although I humiliate him a lot, he is still the third strongest Strawhat and part of the M3.”
I agree, I made a thread a while back that was founded upon these points

Not unexpectedly though half the comments were either "cope" or "WINGS" :kobeha:
 
It clearly says Zoro is there because is the 2 strongest like the other ppl.
As for VC, yes, he is not.

Wings was literally just making it up to Sanji fans because Zoro was fighting the Yonko and getting CoC, Sanji was getting captured by a Flying Six and some fodder lol.

It was basically him saying “look, although I humiliate him a lot, he is still the third strongest Strawhat and part of the M3.”

Then Oda went flying right back into Zoro wank with that colourspread, giving him ACoC and beating King, the guy Sanji fanboys were going to church and praying on their knees that Sanji would fight and beat.
Mental gymnastics of these poor Zorotards :milaugh:
 
No, it doesn't; That's just a biased interpretation.
Oda just stated that he picked up those No.2s arbitrarily.
That's a contradiction. You can't pick up the n2 arbitrarily.
This "arbitrarily" from where did you get it? I dont see here that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ttmkbd
And in the context it does not make any sense. Much less when Oda is explaining that combat wise Bepo is above, so he is talking obviously about the n2 of each crew.
 
Wings was literally just making it up to Sanji fans because Zoro was fighting the Yonko and getting CoC, Sanji was getting captured by a Flying Six and some fodder lol.

It was basically him saying “look, although I humiliate him a lot, he is still the third strongest Strawhat and part of the M3.”

Then Oda went flying right back into Zoro wank with that colourspread, giving him ACoC and beating King, the guy Sanji fanboys were going to church and praying on their knees that Sanji would fight and beat.
Illiterate
 
Yeah, I did think that the Sanji vs King suggestions showed clear signs of illiteracy. Glad you agree.

Oh dear. Wait a minute.

Yeah i messed up i meant to say just like how everyone thought zoro would fight king but HELL NO he’s battling Queen and SANJI fights KING!!!

Luffy vs Kaido
Sanji vs King
Jinbe vs Queen
Inu and Neko vs Jack
Zoro vs Sheapshead or Helmeppo*
Despite all of this I still have reason to believe that Sanji will beat King and Queen and injure Kaido.
Maybe i am delusional, maybe I’m not. But you’re right. I can’t just let people trash my boi!

Can’t wait till sanji dislocates Kaido’s Jaw! Until then I’ll watch Sanji beat King and Queen at the same time.
What a dumb fuck you are.
 
Brainless…….
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Look how easily impressed sword gaggers are
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Somebody call a medic or the police, wildfire kaios just got brutally violated.
Damn dude you didn't have to go THAT hard on the poor lad

:gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
Even mods are turning brute on this site for how much the IQ of some posters is decreasing:josad:
Nothing but clowns
Yeah, I did think that the Sanji vs King suggestions showed clear signs of illiteracy. Glad you agree.

Oh dear. Wait a minute.










What a dumb fuck you are.
Thinking Zoro is anywhere near Sanji’s level only shows more of your stupidity
 
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Yes because Sanji dwarfs Zoro
That's what you morbid delusional ones wishfully dream

While

Yes because Zoro dwarfs Sanji
That's what Oda thinks

Therefore all this



The occurrence that the author chose to have Luffy and Zoro share so many main traits, while he didn't have Sanji share them with the Captain and the Number Two/Right Hand Man/First Mate, is a factual evidence. It definitely makes you think that Oda was trying to portray something...

I mean, Sanji literally viewed Zoro and Luffy as both inspirational figures to take example from.



So it's not surprising that this was the strength ranking of the Monster Trio.



That's why Zoro got this portrayal of his strength compared to Luffy's.
Something that Sanji never ever got.



That's why this happened between Luffy and Zoro.
While, in spite of all the gags, it never happened between Zoro and Sanji.



That's why the maybe greatest and most iconic power of the manga (the will is one of the focal point of this series and Conqueror Haki is literally the power of the ones with the greatest will), the one hyped by Kaido as the gimmick of the top tiers ("only a handful of the strongest can") was given by Oda to only Luffy and Zoro. Zoro even unlocked that in the same arc of Luffy, just a few chapters after him.



No wonder that Oda officially stated that Zoro is the number two in strength in the Strawhat crew. Meaning that it is undesputable that Zoro is a good deal stronger than Sanji (just like Rayleigh than Gaban, King than Queen and so on). Which was common sense for most, but anyway, I am glad that Oda cleared this once and for all, even for the most biased ones.
The author didn't pick Queen, Sanjj, Gaban, Jozu and so on. He also didn't pick King + Queen, Zoro + Sanji, Rayleigh + Gaban, Marco + Jozu and so on. No, no bullshit of that kind. Oda picked King and King alone, Zoro and Zoro alone, Rayleigh and Rayleigh alone, Marco and Marco alone and so on. And he stated that the ones that he picked were there because they were the number twos, explaining (with the Bepo vs Penguin/Shachi thing) that he means the second strongest in the crews and groups.



Sanji is strong, indeed. He is just not as strong as Luffy and Zoro. And that's the reason for why Oda reserved a similar portrayal for the latters, who share many parallels and comparisons in strength, power ups, backgrounds, paths, benchmarks and goals.
Also I'm not arguing that Zoro is exactly pound for pound as strong as Luffy. He definitely is not. But is close enough to be extremely comparable. This at least before Gear 5/Nika Nika thing.

I mean, it's a fact that Oda had Zoro share all these parallels with Luffy. While he didn't have Sanji share traits with Luffy. That's undesputable.







Like it or not, the amount of different times and different ways where Zoro is put close to Luffy is gargantuan. The sheer number of those comparisons is astonishing, it screams loud, like the absolute absence of the same closeness between Sanji and Luffy, screams loud as well, but in the opposite way. Even the most biased Sanji fan has to at least admit that...

Luffy > Zoro >> Sanji >>> other Strawhats
Luffy is a tier above Zoro. Zoro is two tiers above Sanji.

Luffy is a solid full fledged Top Tier.
Zoro is a Borderline Top Tier, stronger than YC1s but still not as strong as a full fledged Top Tier.
Sanji is stronger than YCs, but still weaker than YC1s.
 
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