Your head cannon is next level it walks hand in with your bull shit
Mingo didn't loose because he got bk up later on that day
Sanji was never at a disadvantage df King was putting everything in his kick to send sanji flying yet he couldn't & stop wit the bs sanji never felt pain from those kicks & King is a bitch he had to wait until sanji was distracted to sneak attack him
& yet he fail to cut sanji in half when he said he would , the guy had to run,
People always talk about how vergo crack sanji leg but they never talk about how sanji came in kick vergo ass & down after hiseg got crack vergo still couldn't best/beat sanji
true shit
Mingo didn't loose because he got bk up later on that daySanji was never at a disadvantage df King was putting everything in his kick to send sanji flying yet he couldn't & stop wit the bs sanji never felt pain from those kicks & King is a bitch he had to wait until sanji was distracted to sneak attack him & yet he fail to cut sanji in half when he said he would , the guy had to run,
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People always talk about how vergo crack sanji leg but they never talk about how sanji came in kick vergo ass & down after hiseg got crack vergo still couldn't best/beat sanji
true shit
LoL
he broke the iron rule that Zoro addup to the crew
Okama insult his captain,leaves the crew, Kick his captain its far worse than Ussop scene. okama dont deserve to be in the crew he should be killed by zoro hand
even oda had to remove zoro at the WCI lmao, sanji would be dead by right now :cheers:
Worst garbage character ever wrote in Onepiece
King of Ls
pathetic
he broke the iron rule that Zoro addup to the crew
Okama insult his captain,leaves the crew, Kick his captain its far worse than Ussop scene. okama dont deserve to be in the crew he should be killed by zoro hand
even oda had to remove zoro at the WCI lmao, sanji would be dead by right now :cheers:
Worst garbage character ever wrote in Onepiece
King of Ls
pathetic
I could add some other things to these, but you summarized most of them well.
Meanwhile some Zoro fans tries to explain how cutting some harmless and static huge piece of stone is such a great feat, and getting easily distracted, pierced with random weapons, complaining about getting hurt before the "battle" and then fainting is completely ok. In the very same arc he fought Younko god knows how.
Obviously they will bring their excuses (considering most of those im referring to are the ones who bash Sanji constantly while expecting no one will come up with counter argues, or excuses, in a similar way).
Ignoring context when its about Sanji: IT'S FINE
Ignoring context when the matter is Zoro:
Meanwhile some Zoro fans tries to explain how cutting some harmless and static huge piece of stone is such a great feat, and getting easily distracted, pierced with random weapons, complaining about getting hurt before the "battle" and then fainting is completely ok. In the very same arc he fought Younko god knows how.
Obviously they will bring their excuses (considering most of those im referring to are the ones who bash Sanji constantly while expecting no one will come up with counter argues, or excuses, in a similar way).
Ignoring context when its about Sanji: IT'S FINE
Ignoring context when the matter is Zoro:
Vergo forgot about Sanji's existence the moment he left the scene.
Meanwhile Sanji....
Meanwhile Sanji....
Sanjj Completed his goal as usual
Do you guys even know what own or defeat means?
Vergo didn't own a thing!
You speak like Sanji was almost dying and lying on the ground lol, when he actually passed the whole arc completely fine like nothing happened, plus he wasn't 100% cuz Nami tanked a huge explosion when she was in Sanji's body, Sanji even complained about pain when Law fixed the Shambles thing.
He just completely understimated Vergo for a brief moment, thats all. These kinds of injure are not even that serious in One Piece, strong characters fight with bones broken the whole time, there is always "crak" sounds during most fights, and this is why there is Haki and crazy durable characters. Why did Sanji kept fighting him? Why did he kicked Vergo inside the wall stunning him twice so easily? Why did he dodged Vergo's attacks? If you compare what Smoker did to Vergo with all of his efforts, it pales in comparison to Sanji.
What you're doing is basicly
"Wow Zoro got a big L against Carrot, Carrot walked off completely fine and Zoro struggled". I think its pretty silly honestly.
There is a thing called "surprise effect" in One Piece, and it affects Luffy like no one else even against much weaker characters, and it also does to Zoro and Sanji
He just completely understimated Vergo for a brief moment, thats all. These kinds of injure are not even that serious in One Piece, strong characters fight with bones broken the whole time, there is always "crak" sounds during most fights, and this is why there is Haki and crazy durable characters. Why did Sanji kept fighting him? Why did he kicked Vergo inside the wall stunning him twice so easily? Why did he dodged Vergo's attacks? If you compare what Smoker did to Vergo with all of his efforts, it pales in comparison to Sanji.
What you're doing is basicly
"Wow Zoro got a big L against Carrot, Carrot walked off completely fine and Zoro struggled". I think its pretty silly honestly.
There is a thing called "surprise effect" in One Piece, and it affects Luffy like no one else even against much weaker characters, and it also does to Zoro and Sanji
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Underestimation lowers your durability ?
Yeah, thing is Sanji himself emphasized the broken bone, that little injury could've been fatal by his own admission, not much to argue here :
Zoro vs Carrot isn't a comparable scenario at all. Sanji didn't get taken by surprise, Vergo beat him at his own fighting style head on, that's why it's such a huge L.
I give current Sanji his credit, he would flatten Vergo, but not in PH.
Yeah, thing is Sanji himself emphasized the broken bone, that little injury could've been fatal by his own admission, not much to argue here :
Zoro vs Carrot isn't a comparable scenario at all. Sanji didn't get taken by surprise, Vergo beat him at his own fighting style head on, that's why it's such a huge L.
I give current Sanji his credit, he would flatten Vergo, but not in PH.
Underestimation lowers your durability ?
Yeah, thing is Sanji himself emphasized the broken bone, that little injury could've been fatal by his own admission, not much to argue here :
Zoro vs Carrot isn't a comparable scenario at all. Sanji didn't get taken by surprise, Vergo beat him at his own fighting style head on, that's why it's such a huge L.
I give current Sanji his credit, he would flatten Vergo, but not in PH.
Yeah, thing is Sanji himself emphasized the broken bone, that little injury could've been fatal by his own admission, not much to argue here :
Zoro vs Carrot isn't a comparable scenario at all. Sanji didn't get taken by surprise, Vergo beat him at his own fighting style head on, that's why it's such a huge L.
I give current Sanji his credit, he would flatten Vergo, but not in PH.
Even a Gifter can hurt you if you are not aware. This panel you showed could be viewed in many different ways, like he wasn't 100% HP and he didn't realized it? He thought Vergo was easy to deal with at the start and wasn't worrying at all until he realized he made a mistake? And as i said, this logic doesn't apply to Sanji only, clearly.
Don't even come with this excuses, if Sanji was in Zoro's place against Carrot (supposing he can hit female), it would be this very same clown fiesta.
Carrot wasn't one of the main enemies of the arc like Vergo was back in PH, thats an even bigger deal.
"Sanji can't even beat Carrot lmao he struggled against her
, Sanji is definitely Veteran level, he couldn't even beat Page One 100% confirmed "Using this to absolutely confirm that "Vergo beat Sanji" is the same thing as saying Carrot completely outspeeds Zoro in every single way because of their brief clash. Its like saying Denjiro is on Zoro's level because they clashed equally, and Zoro looked at him respecting his strength until the start of the Onigashima raid. Again, despite if someone is ignoring the context (and all the possible adversities) as much as they want.
Until some time ago i used to see some people arguing that Daifuku pulling Sanji back with a named attack (doing no dmg) while Sanji was carrying Pudding in his arms means he wasn't a match for Daifuku by any means. What kind of logic is that? It feels like there are standards that only applies to some characters, Sanji gets bashed much more by everything he does than Zoro, it definitely doesn't matter if Zoro gets offscreened and is shown panting against Bettle-Gifter for some unknown reason.
And here is the answer, it's called:
Being used as a hypetool because these characters are strong enough to be used like that.
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1. He literally got one shotted, after 1 hit the fight was over. In box it doesn't matter if you are KO for 10 seconds or 5 minutes. The fight alr ended.
2. Facts
3. Vergo only fought Sanji in that moment and he didn't even use haki yet we clearly see a panel of Sanji's leg breaking.
4. He got blackmailed but he didn't even dare to say something. He didn't rlly act in the proper way.
5. Beating Luffy was useless at the end because he only ended up forcing him to go and save his ass. We get his point but that wasn't the correct way to do things.
6. Doffy straight up violated him. He didn't even use haki to block Sanji's attacks and he kept using low tier attacks to take him down.
7. He didn't get bashed, just some Zoro fants pointing that the only thing that's equal in their case was physical strength as stated by Jabura himself.
8. It was such a cheap power up that it was sad, and the worst part is that Sanji tried to not use it because he didn't want his father's stuff, which is something that I accept, yet he ended up using it to spy some girls...
9. That only proves that Sanji tried his best to protect Momo and to give him so courage yet King was like: "..." Funny how y'all use the sneak attack shit here but when Sanji does the sneak it doesn't rlly matter.
10. I don't remember anyone saying that P1 got knocked out cold for 9 days in the manga tho. No one showed us how the fight ended, only the anime did.
2. Facts
3. Vergo only fought Sanji in that moment and he didn't even use haki yet we clearly see a panel of Sanji's leg breaking.
4. He got blackmailed but he didn't even dare to say something. He didn't rlly act in the proper way.
5. Beating Luffy was useless at the end because he only ended up forcing him to go and save his ass. We get his point but that wasn't the correct way to do things.
6. Doffy straight up violated him. He didn't even use haki to block Sanji's attacks and he kept using low tier attacks to take him down.
7. He didn't get bashed, just some Zoro fants pointing that the only thing that's equal in their case was physical strength as stated by Jabura himself.
8. It was such a cheap power up that it was sad, and the worst part is that Sanji tried to not use it because he didn't want his father's stuff, which is something that I accept, yet he ended up using it to spy some girls...
9. That only proves that Sanji tried his best to protect Momo and to give him so courage yet King was like: "..." Funny how y'all use the sneak attack shit here but when Sanji does the sneak it doesn't rlly matter.
10. I don't remember anyone saying that P1 got knocked out cold for 9 days in the manga tho. No one showed us how the fight ended, only the anime did.
Underestimation lowers your durability ?
Yeah, thing is Sanji himself emphasized the broken bone, that little injury could've been fatal by his own admission, not much to argue here :
Zoro vs Carrot isn't a comparable scenario at all. Sanji didn't get taken by surprise, Vergo beat him at his own fighting style head on, that's why it's such a huge L.
I give current Sanji his credit, he would flatten Vergo, but not in PH.
Yeah, thing is Sanji himself emphasized the broken bone, that little injury could've been fatal by his own admission, not much to argue here :
Zoro vs Carrot isn't a comparable scenario at all. Sanji didn't get taken by surprise, Vergo beat him at his own fighting style head on, that's why it's such a huge L.
I give current Sanji his credit, he would flatten Vergo, but not in PH.
Sanji's Oda favorite hype tool after Luffy, however Luffy is the MC so in the end he will take a good W against the antagonist, which is not the case of Sanjino.
Anyway, he doesn't want to be the strongest. Even his TS training wasn't focused in combat, he also learned how to cook special foods to help the crew.
Also, his best feats in the series aren't related to strenght, it's always the tatical role: Mr. Prince stuff, Enies Lobby opening, taking care of crew in Zou, cooking the cake for BM and now saving Momonosuke during the raid.
And don't worry, he will take more "Ls" in the next arc, Oda will never miss the oportunity to use him as hype machine to new enemies...
Anyway, he doesn't want to be the strongest. Even his TS training wasn't focused in combat, he also learned how to cook special foods to help the crew.
Also, his best feats in the series aren't related to strenght, it's always the tatical role: Mr. Prince stuff, Enies Lobby opening, taking care of crew in Zou, cooking the cake for BM and now saving Momonosuke during the raid.
And don't worry, he will take more "Ls" in the next arc, Oda will never miss the oportunity to use him as hype machine to new enemies...
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