Speculations 20 Chapters In: We Still Haven’t Met The Main Villain Of Elbaf Or Luffy’s Fight

Who is the main antagonist of Elbaf?


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#21
Loki's bounty is special.

Not to mention, Kidd and Law didn't deserve theirs.

Loki has factually a higher bounty than Emperor BB.



Well, you know we don't see eye to eye on this one.

And anyway, Loki being Loki, seems to me that a betrayal/trick is basically written.
You’re rationalizing the bounty too logically.

If Oda wanted Loki to appear as overbearing threat befitting of a multi decade hyped arc like Elbaf, he wouldn’t give him a lower bounty than the MC.

It’s that simple.
 

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#23
I forgot to add earlier, Mosa we don't know anything about and is a complete wildcard. They could be manipulating Loki, sucking up to him to use him for their own nerfarious purposes, like certain other villains do in OP with others ofc.

There's also the possibility of the burned mark man, idk why people keep saying he's Scopper, I doubt it's him but I don't mind if it is just to get this another BS last minute mystery out of the way too.

Also RIP this guy being Scopper too, lmao:



Gave him such an epic design and aura, making him seem important with his dialogue and similar design to Scopper only for him to be forgotten, irrelevant and not Scopper lmfao.

Maybe he's Mosa? Burned Mark man? /s.

I'm banking on the real villain of the arc being in the heaven realm though. Maybe Enel came back to rematch Luffy in a much more harder fight and more equal now? But seriously, as I said before, I really hope its a super strong giant warrior leader with a powerful DF and intelligent too ideally.
 
#24
You’re rationalizing the bounty too logically.

If Oda wanted Loki to appear as overbearing threat befitting of a multi decade hyped arc like Elbaf, he wouldn’t give him a lower bounty than the MC.

It’s that simple.
Even if, the bounty Is not the only factor of his hype.

Also, Loki wouldn't be the first arc villian with a bounty lower than Luffy's: Doflamingo, Boa (until she had a change of heart), not to mention people like Hody or CC.
At EH Kizaru technically had the same bounty as Luffy.
At TB Moria's was barely higher.

And yeah, Shichi's bounties were frozen, but Loki's Is special. Wasn't a problem for them, should't be for him.

There Is a "world" around Loki's bounty, and all of It screams hype.
 
#25
Even if, the bounty Is not the only factor of his hype.

Also, Loki wouldn't be the first arc villian with a bounty lower than Luffy's: Doflamingo, Boa (until she had a change of heart), not to mention people like Hody or CC.
At EH Kizaru technically had the same bounty as Luffy.
At TB Moria's was barely higher.

And yeah, Shichi's bounties were frozen, but Loki's Is special. Wasn't a problem for them, should't be for him.

There Is a "world" around Loki's bounty, and all of It screams hype.
Special and only being 2.6 is a red flag
 
#26
Special and only being 2.6 is a red flag
Tbh having a solo individual that barely went out to the sea and got a special bounty higher than an Emperor is hype for me.
Especially if you take into account the million hype phrases about him.

Anyway, the bounty Is the least special thing about him, ok, but there Is the rest.
Would you sell short Shanks because he had the lowest bounty of the old Emperors? No, because he might have, but there was a narrative around that, and all screamed hype.
 
#27
Even if, the bounty Is not the only factor of his hype.

Also, Loki wouldn't be the first arc villian with a bounty lower than Luffy's: Doflamingo, Boa (until she had a change of heart), not to mention people like Hody or CC.
At EH Kizaru technically had the same bounty as Luffy.
At TB Moria's was barely higher.

And yeah, Shichi's bounties were frozen, but Loki's Is special. Wasn't a problem for them, should't be for him.

There Is a "world" around Loki's bounty, and all of It screams hype.
warlords are different. Lokis bounty is active. Doffys was paused.

Lokis more likely to fight a holy knight anyways. Dude would absolutely try to avenge xebec
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Tbh having a solo individual that barely went out to the sea and got a special bounty higher than an Emperor is hype for me.
Especially if you take into account the million hype phrases about him.

Anyway, the bounty Is the least special thing about him, ok, but there Is the rest.
Would you sell short Shanks because he had the lowest bounty of the old Emperors? No, because he might have, but there was a narrative around that, and all screamed hype.
Loki was on the sea for 8 years?
 
#28
warlords are different. Lokis bounty is active. Doffys was paused.

Lokis more likely to fight a holy knight anyways. Dude would absolutely try to avenge xebec
It's difficult to know what "special" means, because we still don't know.

Also, as said, we are talking about a solo individual having a higher abounty than an Emperor.
 
#30
He wasn’t solo. He had a crew. And was on the sea for 8 years. Literally 4 times longer than Luffy.
I am quite skeptical about the crew tbh. It doesn't seem that anyone on Erbaf at least would go with him.

As for the time, Luffy and WG are special even just for narrative reasons. The other "normal" people took decades, legends included.
 
#31
I am quite skeptical about the crew tbh. It doesn't seem that anyone on Erbaf at least would go with him.

As for the time, Luffy and WG are special even just for narrative reasons. The other "normal" people took decades, legends included.
He has a crew of humans who live with him in the Underworld who was there when he fought shanks. That’s a pirate crew.

I mean 8 years of Piracy in the new world, having a special devil fruit, clashing with the BMP, the WG thinking he is in charge of Elbafs military which is feared throughout the world… it makes sense.

Loki just doesn’t have a Luffy opponent hype. He’s more like the Wyper of the arc.
 
#33
He has a crew of humans who live with him in the Underworld who was there when he fought shanks. That’s a pirate crew.
It's possible he took some of them, yeah.


I mean 8 years of Piracy in the new world, having a special devil fruit, clashing with the BMP, the WG thinking he is in charge of Elbafs military which is feared throughout the world… it makes sense.
I didn't think the WG believed he was in change, but yeah. Still, pretty impressive considering Shanks duels against Mihawk, just to say one, had a 1B Shanks involved.
Loki just doesn’t have a Luffy opponent hype. He’s more like the Wyper of the arc.
I think he Is more of a Katakuri. We'll see.
 
#34
It's possible he took some of them, yeah.




I didn't think the WG believed he was in change, but yeah. Still, pretty impressive considering Shanks duels against Mihawk, just to say one, had a 1B Shanks involved.


I think he Is more of a Katakuri. We'll see.
He took them Canonically. They mentioned shanks’ CoC specifically and those two only met on the sea.

The WG still believes he’s in charge, the sole reason they wanted to make him a HK was to get the army of Elbaf on their side.

Nah Kizarus the closest we got to a katakuri.
 
#36
He took them Canonically. They mentioned shanks’ CoC specifically and those two only met on the sea.
Shanks Is rountinely on Erbaf.

The WG still believes he’s in charge, the sole reason they wanted to make him a HK was to get the army of Elbaf on their side.
No, they know he Isn't. Even now they factually know him was chained.
They wanted him because he could be on the throne + he Is strong.

Nah Kizarus the closest we got to a katakuri.
We'll see.
 
#37
Shanks Is rountinely on Erbaf.



No, they know he Isn't. Even now they factually know him was chained.
They wanted him because he could be on the throne + he Is strong.



We'll see.
I don’t think there’s any evidence shanks has visited Loki… ever

They literally think by making Loki a HK it would bring Elbaf to their side? Like that was the stated reason. The WG thinks Loki can control the army of Elbaf.
 
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