@Rumble In general, this RSJ/Renpa army has so much brainpower (and even versatility) with RSJ, Renpa, Genpou and Kyouen especially, that it's just really hard for me to see it bested. Quite a few on this team are really dangerous even when operating on their own.
Doubtful that Riboku is so damn good that he can engineer a situation Rinshoujo cannot respond to, when he's got all that to work with.
Doubtful that Riboku is so damn good that he can engineer a situation Rinshoujo cannot respond to, when he's got all that to work with.
However, I would say that in any conflict, especially one as high leverage as this one, there will usually be only one cook in the kitchen. Ri Boku doesn't have to think for everyone, he just has to come up with a plan they can follow and stick to, and we've know he's good at that sort of thing since his introduction at Bayou.
Whatever solutions he will consider, they're going to be narrow in scope. RBK would know that his side doesn't have have as many routes to victory so most likely whatever he instructions he would have for them would be limited to begin with. Combine that with the knowledge we know these subs are pretty elite at following orders and you can see merits of the trade-offs.
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Oh god, Ousen gets shitstomped. What exactly does Akou change? Lmfao
Akou would be lucky to extreme diff Kansaro or Gakushou in a straight up battle. There is no way he can hold off multiple of Shibashou’s subs and Shibashou himself. Absolutely not a chance in hell. At best Akou will stall out just one of Shibashou’s generals. Meanwhile Denrimi and Sou Ou/Shiryou can maybe hold off two more. That leaves Ousen alone to deal with Shibashou (and if we give Shibashou Jyoukaryuu it gets even worse). Which on a flat land scenario, yeah Shibashou is smoking Ousen like a joint as we saw at Hango. There is no hypothetical scenario where Ousen alone does better against Shibashou alone than he did at Hango on flat terrain.
Akou would be lucky to extreme diff Kansaro or Gakushou in a straight up battle. There is no way he can hold off multiple of Shibashou’s subs and Shibashou himself. Absolutely not a chance in hell. At best Akou will stall out just one of Shibashou’s generals. Meanwhile Denrimi and Sou Ou/Shiryou can maybe hold off two more. That leaves Ousen alone to deal with Shibashou (and if we give Shibashou Jyoukaryuu it gets even worse). Which on a flat land scenario, yeah Shibashou is smoking Ousen like a joint as we saw at Hango. There is no hypothetical scenario where Ousen alone does better against Shibashou alone than he did at Hango on flat terrain.
Not JUST A Kou. Why are you pretending l wrote that?
Yes. 100 times out 100, Shibashou picks his teeth with Ousen’s bones on flat land.
You are saying this army
- SBS
- Kan Saro
- Gaku Shou
- Ji Aga
- Jyou Ka Ryuu
- Fuu On
- En Kan
You must have been smoking when you read Riboku’s statement on Shin lmfao.
Riboku never said Shin would be too much of a threat for Shibashou or even his subs.
What Riboku said was Shin was a troublesome opponent who could impede Zhao’s overwhelming victory. Riboku absolutely never said Shin could ever best anyone from Seika.
Riboku never said Shin would be too much of a threat for Shibashou or even his subs.
What Riboku said was Shin was a troublesome opponent who could impede Zhao’s overwhelming victory. Riboku absolutely never said Shin could ever best anyone from Seika.
How could he have been, considering he witnessed Shin slay Hou Ken on an empty stomach after 2 weeks of fighting?
Whether RBK believes SBS would win or lose is immaterial, that he considers it too risky is what matters.
I don’t know how many times we have to discuss Houken before yall realize he was an anomaly who Shin only killed because he lacked weight. A far healthier Shin failed to kill Gyou’Un for an afternoon and even collapsed after that fight while Gyou’Un rode off just fine. Shin absolutely is still at risk of being killed by a Heavenly King level warrior. Hell, Shin beat Gakuhaku Kou via weapon discrepancy and not martial prowess lmfao. In terms of martial prowess Gakuhaku Kou was completely superior to Shin in every aspect.
Gyou'un wasn't fine either, he also reached his limits for the day despite having the advantage.
Shin did beat Buddha with martial prowess. He figured out his weakness and then took him out in 2 moves. That fight is his most skill based fight outside Hou Ken and Rin Ko.
BRUH Jyoukaryuu had a fucking arrow through his arm lmfaooooooo
Prior to that he and his henchmen were swarming Shin, but you conveniently leave that out.
We should be far past the point where people gauge the Shin vs Jyoukaryuu matchup from an instant where Jyoukaryuu had an arrow shot through one of his arms but here we are lmfao. I don’t know why so many people lie about this character. I guess that’s easier then just accepting that Shin still hasn’t past Heavenly King level lol.
You want to fixate on the arrow like we weren't talking about Shin getting swarmed prior to it. There was no actual, meaningful 1v1, again, the panels you posted disagree with your own findings.
Because Qin was lacking in commanders compared to Zhao. And even then, the positions Shin and Ouhon held were no more significant than the positions held by Bananji and Shunsuiju. Hell, Bananji and Shunsuiju were given Yotanwa to hold off, while Shin was tasked with Enkan. lol
They were more important and valueable to Qin than any Seika general is now before Shukai even began. Even as unit commanders. Your scaling is completely out of whack.
I must have dreamed Gakuhaku Kou low diffing Ouhon and Gakushou negging Mouten. There is literally no evidence that they have cleared that level yet.
Kanki defeated Kochou himself with a 3:1 disadvantage but Mouten and Shin join forces and Mouten still lost to Gakushou. But sure, the Q3 are convincingly above that level! lol
Kanki defeated Kochou himself with a 3:1 disadvantage but Mouten and Shin join forces and Mouten still lost to Gakushou. But sure, the Q3 are convincingly above that level! lol
Kan Ki didn't do nearly enough to warrant beginning any sentence with "Kan Ki defeated Ko Chou" - it simply isn't true. Ko Chou was defeated by the joint efforts of Shin, Ou Hon, Kyou Kai, A Ka Kin, and Kan Ki.
The Wei troops were said to be the hardiest in China at Sanyou. At best I expect Renpa to only be slightly more effective commanding troops from his own state. The direct elites fighting under Renpa and his HK were from Zhao anyway.
Since when? We have not once seen Renpa earn a victory from fighting Head on. Renpa defeated Gakujou by attacking him from the rear, attacked Mougou by attacking him from the rear, checked Ousen via baiting him into a scenario where Renpa could surround him, etc…
Where is this mythical scenario where Renpa has utilized a headon clash to win a battle?
Where is this mythical scenario where Renpa has utilized a headon clash to win a battle?
Ren Pa prefers a head on clash. Do you have any real reason to dispute something so obvious?
The opposite. With the exception of Kaishibou, Shibashou’s generals would smoke the Heavenly Kings head on.
Genpou retreated from a young Ouhon and Shin. Tell me Genpou stands a chance with the likes of Kansaro or Jiaga charging at him.
Rinko is in legitimate one shot range for Shibashou’s guys, I don’t think we even need to discuss him.
Kyou En is tricky but he doesn’t exactly excel at brute force. His whole forte in war is speed and traditional tactics. With his archery he could potentially kill anyone but in terms of a headon clash he isn’t withstanding Shibashou’s generals unless he can snipe them.
Yeah, only Kaishibou can match the brute power of Shibashou’s subs.
Genpou retreated from a young Ouhon and Shin. Tell me Genpou stands a chance with the likes of Kansaro or Jiaga charging at him.
Rinko is in legitimate one shot range for Shibashou’s guys, I don’t think we even need to discuss him.
Kyou En is tricky but he doesn’t exactly excel at brute force. His whole forte in war is speed and traditional tactics. With his archery he could potentially kill anyone but in terms of a headon clash he isn’t withstanding Shibashou’s generals unless he can snipe them.
Yeah, only Kaishibou can match the brute power of Shibashou’s subs.
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