Role Madness A Certain Magical Mafia II - Game Thread

Yo Tan Wa

Yo Tan Wa

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Michelle said:
Who do you suspect?
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You, York, Polar, are my strong town reads. Yoho and Pot is my gut feel. Actually Yoho is likely town only. Muugen is town.

I don't remember Stargate push on Flowa, all i remember is Fuji vs Flower, Naomi arguments but the latter flipped scum. If that part is true, Stargate should be town. I don't think he's someone to bus player like that.
Voting history wise, pot also was the last vote on Flower which is good look on him. I remember Fuji mass tagging players many times but no one was voting her.

That leaves Uwu, Reloaded, Mango, Naomi, Watson, AM. These are my pov.

Mango had made some good posts, logical ones that i agreed with. He's more likely to be town, but I'm not a fan of his pushes this game.

Naomi, i suspect. First I thought she is just warry of me, but when i questioned her regarding my rear of hers, she ignored my question and then eod says if Charlie flips town I'm scum.
I' had been pausing on her because she could've easily also said Charlie flipping scum, would make me scum to make me more scummy,
But nevertheless she had kept on pushing for my lynch.
 
Yo Tan Wa

Yo Tan Wa

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Stargate18 said:
I checked my flavour, and my role is a character who refused to learn any kind of magic, and gains no powers for the entire series. She gets a gun later, so its not impossible I get something later, but for now I'm almost certainly just a normal VT.
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Stargate18 said:
Anyway, its way too late for me again and I had no time today, so here's a quick readlist of the players who are actively posting, since I do want to provide some actual analysis/reads here. I'm very tired, so sorry for any typos.

Yoho - Acting towny, making solid reads and points throughout, that + good, non-defensive reaction to being voted is giving me very good vibes.
UwU - Has made several firm reads, including more detailied points about activity and behaviour.
York - posting some content, made a good point about my VT claim, has good vibes so far.
MangoSenpai - Has made a lot of solid points.
Flower - Very low post-to-read ratio, but overall content seems towny.
Dr. Watson - I very much like the point about Charlie.
Naomi - As much as I disagree with only scum being AFK (some people just have a crippling addiction to Warframe and Balatro instead). Yoho vote is odd, but everything else seems good.
Mr. Reloaded - Either town joking or an incredibly brave scum. Even if they were scum, scum!Reloaded would almost certainly claim town as their teammates, so NAI for anyone else.
Polar Bear - Not much content yet, but has made an attempt to push.
Fujishiro - Pretty much just shitposting.
Ghostface Killa - not much content, just lots of attempts to push Fujishiro. Very likely the two are on opposite alignments, feels a bit too consistent/reasoned for w/w theatre.
Charlie - Made some very good points - mostly votecounts being NAI, pointing out Flower's odd claim, etc.
Alwaysmind - While PRs are less important here, behaviour around Polar Bear, including making a claim about their role based on little evidence, seems odd?
Pot Goblin - Hesistant to make reads, and main readslist is made purely on vibes (meaning they don't have to explain them). Not a full scumread yet, but this is pretty scummy NGL.
The Orca - Isn't acting particularly scummy - but saying their role doesn't fit their character is odd - my role makes perfect sense as a VT, so theirs seemingly not so feels off to me, as does the weird hesistancy to reveal their passive until called out on it. Not a full scumread yet, but I'd like to know how, exactly, it doesn't fit their character, since its not a complaint anyone else has had.
Alexis - other than self-voting, hasn't provided any reads, or followed up on any of the few pushes made, and has voted several times without explanations. Feels like scum attempting to appear active through voting activity without needing to vote.
Ratchet - is responsible for every death that will happen throughout this game - hard scumread.

I'll check back in the morning, let me know if you disagree with anything/if I made any stupid mistakes.
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Stargate18 said:
...Also, I read this again, and its worth noting that it says one member of GREMLIN... not one member of scum.

After a quick wiki binge, GREMLIN are a magic-focused villain group, and are fought around the same time as Agitate Halation Project, a science-focused villain group. Given town is split into magic and science, I think its possible that scum are similarly split into GREMLIN and Agitate Halation.
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Stargate18 said:
Ah, that's fair, just figured the wording might be odd.

They might be present in the form of indies, I suppose. (I've never read the books, so this is coming from the wiki.)
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Stargate18 said:
My issue with that is - why claim straight vanilla, and only after being questioned reveal he had a passive? He could have just claimed that he had no active abilities and it would be true and more believable.

Feels like Orca thought VT would be an easy fakeclaim, and after people doubted him started backtracking to "almost vanilla"... then picked a passive (so, not vanilla at all) in order to change his claim without it being obvious.
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Stargate18 said:
Thank you, I appreciate it.

Looking at the fast string of votes I found suspicious for the Ali wagon (Pot Goblin to Yoho, all of which occured a 5 minute period):
Dr. Watson - Has posted a lot, but not much content in them. Only sheeped wagons.
Pot Goblin - no posts leap out as bad, posted just before suspicious period, voted by Alexis without context.
Flower - Only joined existing wagons, openly asked others who to vote for, stated to be playing on low energy.
Mr. Reloaded - ...Seems scummy, but has a good point in that claiming a 3rd vanilla role is a bad fakeclaim, and the failed kill seems odd - since Orca was a likely miselim D2, scum probably wouldn't kill Orca - so its safe to assume Orca was indeed a vig kill. So, either we have 2 town vigilantes, we have a serial killer, or Reloaded is town.
Naomi - reads look good, has been actively contributing to town.
Alexis - lowposter, didn't post for 12 hours before joining the wagon, hasn't posted after that except to join a new wagon. 100% scumread here.
Yoho - potential slip with the 3 town deaths line earlier, not much solving otherwise.

I'll check the Orca wagon for any similar fast periods.
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Stargate18 said:
I checked the Orca wagon - nothing like this shows up.

The only times any suspicious patterns occur is Flower changing their vote consistently after Fuji does, which only strengthens the scumread there, and York voting shortly after Muugen - which, given York was actively posting before and after said vote, seems to just be a case of overlapping activity.
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Stargate18 said:
All of these were part of the suspicious voting pattern I mentioned as well.

Vote Flower
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I believe this is first vote on Flower, then Muugen follows and Fuji post there after is.
Fujishiro said:
Perhaps, shes been trending down. But apparently shes at a hotel on vacation right now and drunk, I wanna see what she does tomorrow.
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Fuji later then leads the lynch on Flowa, to the very end.
Stargate18 said:
Sorry for being away so long, starting a new volunteering position.

My two main scumreads are Alexis and Dr. Watson - for the same reason I scumread Flower early in the previous day.
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Yo Tan Wa

Yo Tan Wa

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Posted together, so won't need to iso them again.

They had given reads on everyone, feeling less hesitancy in posts which is good. The reads on Flower also seem Original, as Fuji at that time wasn't sold on the idea of Flower lynch. I still feel it's not a hard clear, since Flower wasn't actually gonna get lynched off her vote at that time. But bussing is an idea atleast i am not aware of reg Stargate.

Then after that is drop in activity, possibly due to new position. They have claimed Vanilla Town, which imo is more townie especially since it was claimed D1.​
 
Yo Tan Wa

Yo Tan Wa

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Alwaysmind said:
I’m at work. And you wanted an answer right now. And I did say preliminary. I don’t think that I have to give you a dictionary with my list as well.

I don’t take advice from hominem seriously.

Ill be back later lover bird
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Alwaysmind said:
I suppose so. I was at work and things got very busy, so I only got to catch a quick glimpse at the the write up.

@Fujishiro can sleep soundly knowing that I won't vote for him
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Alwaysmind said:
Like I said, I didn't have time to catch up and peeps were asking for reads. SO I could only provide where things had left off on my side, I missed a whole bunch of developments.

I think I even confused this game with the one one OLF when I talked about a worm. Wrong flavour buddy....
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Alwaysmind said:
Sorry, had an impromptu family reunion
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Alwaysmind said:
I lost track of everything. I was supposed to have come back at 7 or 8 pm yesterday. It’s 2:43 AM.

I had set things in motion for today’s phase but my train of thought is absolutely gone.

Who is the player that has the consensus of being sussed this phase?
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Seems very busy, should've been subbed by Ratchet.

Regardless, not interested in solving this slot.​
 
Michelle

Michelle

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Yo Tan Wa said:
You, York, Polar, are my strong town reads. Yoho and Pot is my gut feel. Actually Yoho is likely town only. Muugen is town.

I don't remember Stargate push on Flowa, all i remember is Fuji vs Flower, Naomi arguments but the latter flipped scum. If that part is true, Stargate should be town. I don't think he's someone to bus player like that.
Voting history wise, pot also was the last vote on Flower which is good look on him. I remember Fuji mass tagging players many times but no one was voting her.

That leaves Uwu, Reloaded, Mango, Naomi, Watson, AM. These are my pov.

Mango had made some good posts, logical ones that i agreed with. He's more likely to be town, but I'm not a fan of his pushes this game.

Naomi, i suspect. First I thought she is just warry of me, but when i questioned her regarding my rear of hers, she ignored my question and then eod says if Charlie flips town I'm scum.
I' had been pausing on her because she could've easily also said Charlie flipping scum, would make me scum to make me more scummy,
But nevertheless she had kept on pushing for my lynch.
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I suspect Naomi for defending Flower and for her pushes

I think Mango is town for the amount of thoughts game related he is sharing with a free flow of ideas from what I see.

I start to doubt my Reloaded suspicion but I would like from Alexis a reason for it. If he tracked Relo maybe he can have a hint about it?
Since Charlie and Flower tried an early distancing, the team maybe had a plan for this from the game start? Idk.
Uwu is a read I can't make. Idk playstyle and I think he's scum but it's a weaker read.
Watson and AM I have to ISO

I don't really like how Polar pushed me today so I wish to understand your town read there. I know I had the same read at you yday but he is not doing much and that's not good.
 
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