Rej

Holy Simp
#1
Hey guys I have some new hot takes for you.

If you are dedicated to the One Piece world's lore, then you will love this.

As we first heard from Noland's Logbook, and as we got teased by Robin in Arabasta, the One Piece world seems to have it's own calendar system.
In our world the calendar systems help us to track down historical events and with that the Genesis of our world and the civilization and our beliefs. I know, you don't have to believe in Jesus or the Mayans, or celestial egypt gods or hinduistic figures, but it is clear that something happened at "year 0" of our calendar systems that brought those calendar systems into existence.

In One Piece we are currently in the year 1520 in the Age of the Sea Circle (short: Age of the Sea). Nico Robin was irritating Crocodile in Alabasta by reading from the Poneglyph in Alabasta and talking about the "Age of the Heaven".

Many theorists and redditors that discussed this are on the same page: This is not coincidence and Oda might hint at the One Piece world's Genesis story with this systems.

Now many people like to tackle the timeline and explain the creation of civilization with it, but I think there are more essential things to it.
For now I think Oda in inspired by something, by a so called "trinity" of the world's elements which are:

  • Land
  • Sea
  • Air/Sky

This is a reoccuring thing in finction, also One Piece; because for example, we see it with Kaido, who was proclaimed to be the defeat everyone at Land, Sea, Air. - The strongest creature.

Right now the One Piece fandom is even torn about this topic, because it may hint the Ancient Weapons:
- Poseidon, god of the sea
- Pluton, god of the underworld (earth)
- Uranus, god of the sky

This is how the Ancient weapons are interpreted and how their functionalities are gauched.
Shirahoshi is Poseidon, she controls the Sea Kings and maybe is able to control currents and more with their help.
Poseidon is said to be able to destroy islands, maybe conquer them. We think it may be a battle ship, maybe there is more to it.
Uranus is unknown so far, but based on it's naming it could be something that overpowers in air and may fly. Mybe we have seen it already, but this is not topic of the theory.

Important is the concept, and I'd like to go back to a possible Genesis story, because geniouses and believers tend to assign a god to each of those three world's elements.
A god, who created the earth, a god, who created the sea, and finally a god, who created the skies.
We saw this concept very strongly in the Zelda world, for example:

The Golden Goddesses, that create Hyrule and the world it exists in.
They are Din, the Goddess of Power, Nayru, the Goddess of Wisdom, and Farore, the Goddess of Courage. (shamelessly copied from the wiki lmao)

Pretty sure a oncept of Genesis or "Creation" has been established in our real world's different mythologies. Be it Pantheos and Zeus, Amun-ra and Aten or the 5th Sun of the Aztecs. I don't have to explain it in detail to show you where I am going with it.

I think 3 gods inthe One Piece universe were creating the world as we know it.
And the 3 Ancient Weapons are inspire after them.

Now how does the Calendar system in One Piece work and what does it tell us about the gods, which created the world?
Since we are in the Age of the Sea, I strongly believe that before that there was the Age of the Heaven, and before that we had the Age of the Earth.
I think the gods may have decided to take "shifts" in how to guide the world and it's civilization to glory, and maybe, just maybe there was war involved.

Right now we are in the Age of the Sea Circle and it tells me one thing: Poseidon, or Shirahoshi is the head figure of the current age. And that is why the former Poseidon's relationship with Joyboy was so important, that is why the story focusses more on Shirahoshi than the other Ancient Weapons, because I truly believe that some kind of "God of the Sea" is blessing her so she can be the face of the current age, the one who represents the "God of the Sea".



Now with this Genesis theory in mind, I believe that Imu wants to rule of the current age themselves. Imu reversed is Umi = Sea. Imu sees themselves as true ruler and god of the Age of the Sea, but I think Imu is rather cursed, than "blessed", since the whole prophecies, the whole Joyboy timelines up to Luffy meeting Shirahoshi is rather showing us, that Shirahoshi is to become the true face of the "God of the Sea" and not Imu.

I established that a "Holy Trinity" created the world, but there has always been atleast a Sun and a Moon that always guided the civilizations trough this ages. A duality that technically never ends, unless you end it by force or wait billion of years to have it naturally fall to waste. This duality - Day and Night, Light and Darkness is reflected by Oda in some kind of power game.
Luffy - Blackbeard
Shirahoshi - Imu

Right now we are at the most climatic event within the Age of the Sea, and one winner will rise at the top to dictate what the New Order will be like.

Film Red btw is telling us that "A New Genesis" indeed can be important and story relevant, because imho Luffy and Shirahoshi, they will win this, and they will bring over this New Genesis and with that we might have figured out, what the Will of D really could suggest.

Thanks for hearing me out. <3
 
#6
Very interesting read and well written
Even though I have my own ideas about AWs

However speaking of the Ages, I believe there are Three Eras before the world finally came to say "There are Three Ancient Weapons"

I believe there was Era of Gaia (Oda might give it another Name), then Era of Original Uranus, then came Pluton, Poseidon and a Second Uranus who came to be known as Ancient Weapons

So Gaia ---> Original Uranus ---> Three Ancient Weapons as we know them
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#7
Very interesting read and well written
Even though I have my own ideas about AWs

However speaking of the Ages, I believe there are Three Eras before the world finally came to say "There are Three Ancient Weapons"

I believe there was Era of Gaia (Oda might give it another Name), then Era of Original Uranus, then came Pluton, Poseidon and a Second Uranus who came to be known as Ancient Weapons

So Gaia ---> Original Uranus ---> Three Ancient Weapons as we know them
Thanks fam, glad to see ya around <3 :sweat:
and yeah, Gaia is also an amazing inspiration
 
#8
interesting theory rej, the concept of previous gods, would make more sense, plus there powers being pass down, unless it's reincarnation. (mermaids points Poseidon, is always reincarnated as a mermaid princess)

though do wonder if this, could also hint hibernation for original, beside passing. Good theory! :sweat:
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#9
interesting theory rej, the concept of previous gods, would make more sense, plus there powers being pass down, unless it's reincarnation. (mermaids points Poseidon, is always reincarnated as a mermaid princess)

though do wonder if this, could also hint hibernation for original, beside passing. Good theory! :sweat:


thanks Naomi, you are amazing, and I agree, could be that some god is/was hibernating and keeping their powers safe/hidden, for when their Age is comming back
 
#10
Tbh I wanna post a Hint here and see if anyone on this Forum figure it out

What if I told you there are Nine Ancient Weapons, not just Three, what would you conclude? Or question

PS: I don't mean all Nine are called AWs, but they are equally important
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#11
Tbh I wanna post a Hint here and see if anyone on this Forum figure it out

What if I told you there are Nine Ancient Weapons, not just Three, what would you conclude? Or question

PS: I don't mean all Nine are called AWs, but they are equally important
are they still there or "were" they?
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#13
All nine still exist, it's just that Three of them have world conquering powers, so they were deemed Weapons, but all Nine are equally important Fate wise
then I am at a loss and clueless, else I had said, the Poseidon/Pluton/Uranus of each Age
 
#14
Hey guys I have some new hot takes for you.

If you are dedicated to the One Piece world's lore, then you will love this.

As we first heard from Noland's Logbook, and as we got teased by Robin in Arabasta, the One Piece world seems to have it's own calendar system.
In our world the calendar systems help us to track down historical events and with that the Genesis of our world and the civilization and our beliefs. I know, you don't have to believe in Jesus or the Mayans, or celestial egypt gods or hinduistic figures, but it is clear that something happened at "year 0" of our calendar systems that brought those calendar systems into existence.

In One Piece we are currently in the year 1520 in the Age of the Sea Circle (short: Age of the Sea). Nico Robin was irritating Crocodile in Alabasta by reading from the Poneglyph in Alabasta and talking about the "Age of the Heaven".

Many theorists and redditors that discussed this are on the same page: This is not coincidence and Oda might hint at the One Piece world's Genesis story with this systems.

Now many people like to tackle the timeline and explain the creation of civilization with it, but I think there are more essential things to it.
For now I think Oda in inspired by something, by a so called "trinity" of the world's elements which are:

  • Land
  • Sea
  • Air/Sky

This is a reoccuring thing in finction, also One Piece; because for example, we see it with Kaido, who was proclaimed to be the defeat everyone at Land, Sea, Air. - The strongest creature.

Right now the One Piece fandom is even torn about this topic, because it may hint the Ancient Weapons:
- Poseidon, god of the sea
- Pluton, god of the underworld (earth)
- Uranus, god of the sky

This is how the Ancient weapons are interpreted and how their functionalities are gauched.
Shirahoshi is Poseidon, she controls the Sea Kings and maybe is able to control currents and more with their help.
Poseidon is said to be able to destroy islands, maybe conquer them. We think it may be a battle ship, maybe there is more to it.
Uranus is unknown so far, but based on it's naming it could be something that overpowers in air and may fly. Mybe we have seen it already, but this is not topic of the theory.

Important is the concept, and I'd like to go back to a possible Genesis story, because geniouses and believers tend to assign a god to each of those three world's elements.
A god, who created the earth, a god, who created the sea, and finally a god, who created the skies.
We saw this concept very strongly in the Zelda world, for example:

The Golden Goddesses, that create Hyrule and the world it exists in.
They are Din, the Goddess of Power, Nayru, the Goddess of Wisdom, and Farore, the Goddess of Courage. (shamelessly copied from the wiki lmao)

Pretty sure a oncept of Genesis or "Creation" has been established in our real world's different mythologies. Be it Pantheos and Zeus, Amun-ra and Aten or the 5th Sun of the Aztecs. I don't have to explain it in detail to show you where I am going with it.

I think 3 gods inthe One Piece universe were creating the world as we know it.
And the 3 Ancient Weapons are inspire after them.

Now how does the Calendar system in One Piece work and what does it tell us about the gods, which created the world?
Since we are in the Age of the Sea, I strongly believe that before that there was the Age of the Heaven, and before that we had the Age of the Earth.
I think the gods may have decided to take "shifts" in how to guide the world and it's civilization to glory, and maybe, just maybe there was war involved.

Right now we are in the Age of the Sea Circle and it tells me one thing: Poseidon, or Shirahoshi is the head figure of the current age. And that is why the former Poseidon's relationship with Joyboy was so important, that is why the story focusses more on Shirahoshi than the other Ancient Weapons, because I truly believe that some kind of "God of the Sea" is blessing her so she can be the face of the current age, the one who represents the "God of the Sea".



Now with this Genesis theory in mind, I believe that Imu wants to rule of the current age themselves. Imu reversed is Umi = Sea. Imu sees themselves as true ruler and god of the Age of the Sea, but I think Imu is rather cursed, than "blessed", since the whole prophecies, the whole Joyboy timelines up to Luffy meeting Shirahoshi is rather showing us, that Shirahoshi is to become the true face of the "God of the Sea" and not Imu.

I established that a "Holy Trinity" created the world, but there has always been atleast a Sun and a Moon that always guided the civilizations trough this ages. A duality that technically never ends, unless you end it by force or wait billion of years to have it naturally fall to waste. This duality - Day and Night, Light and Darkness is reflected by Oda in some kind of power game.
Luffy - Blackbeard
Shirahoshi - Imu

Right now we are at the most climatic event within the Age of the Sea, and one winner will rise at the top to dictate what the New Order will be like.

Film Red btw is telling us that "A New Genesis" indeed can be important and story relevant, because imho Luffy and Shirahoshi, they will win this, and they will bring over this New Genesis and with that we might have figured out, what the Will of D really could suggest.

Thanks for hearing me out. <3
Great theory.Luffy and Shirahoshi will take out Imu and bring in a new age.Imu being Umi reversed is a really nice catch.Well done.
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#15
Great theory.Luffy and Shirahoshi will take out Imu and bring in a new age.Imu being Umi reversed is a really nice catch.Well done.

arigato nakama, Imu = Umi is actually old and I think alot in the community got that idea during day 1 of the the Imu name reveal
you can def find that take across many theories, so this is not my idea alone^^ I am just tying some strings together with a bit of new inspirations:endthis:
 
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