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I don't think that the One Piece is an anchor, but this did remind me of something else.
For a long time, the greatest theory was that the One Piece was going to be one sea in which everyone would be free to travel all over the world, or that it would be a weapon that would destroy the Red Line.
Is it sake? I suppose so, but I've had my doubts. It can't be just that. I had a theory in the back of my head for a long, long time, but I had no proof... not until Wano came and a certain panel was shown. That panel changed everything.
The One Piece is, in fact, Joy Boy's treasure, we learn it in Oden's flashback. Every character defines their own treasure differently. For Luffy, his hat is his treasure; for Sanji, his knives and hands; Zoro, his swords; Nami, her tangerines, etc.
So what is Joy Boy's treasure, what is the One Piece? It has to be something he valued more than anything.
According to this, Joy Boy's treasure is a funny story. So the One Piece is Joy Boy's story, the story of the Void Century?
Many fans actually speculated this due to this sentence, but no. If the One Piece is his story, then what would be the point of the Rio Poneglyph (9 poneglyphs that tell the story of the Void Century)?
Maybe the One Piece is the final missing poneglyph of the Rio Poneglyph? No, it would be... meh if that was the case.
So what is it?
First, the One Piece in Japanese is written as ひとつなぎの大秘宝, - Hito-tsunagi no Dai-hihō - and it has 3 meanings:
There is something even greater. It is a rope. But what is the rope in the One Piece?
Let me explain the meaning of the One Piece logo, which was designed by Oda himself. It represents the Grand Line surrounded by Calm Belts. The "O," with a skull in it, with crossed "X" represents Reverse Mountain, "NEP" is Paradise, the red "I" is Luffy, obviously the Red Line, "ECE" is the New World. And above and below everything are 2 blue lines, which are 2 Calm Belts. Notice how the last "E" is in the shape of an anchor? That is because that's where the adventure ends, where they'll put their anchor. And notice how the skull at the beginning is biting on the rope that is tied to the anchor... it's as if the Straw Hats were destined to reach the end. They were tied to it.
The rope represents the whole story of the One Piece; it is an adventure. Adventure and the story are what connect people. Millions of fans are reading One Piece weekly, and people from all over the world, from different religions, and different beliefs... we're all connected through the One Piece.
It's as Roger said, Joy Boy left such an unbelievable treasure, such a funny story...
So what I'm saying is that the One Piece is the adventure and the story we've been told throughout the series? That the whole One Piece manga is... the One Piece treasure...? No.
But similar to how Oda connected people from the real world, the same thing was done by Joy Boy through the One Piece treasure... he connected people from different races, different religions, and different kingdoms into what would later become the Ancient Kingdom. And sake that Binks brewed was used as a symbol of their brotherhood.
So what kind of story did Joy Boy tell?
Well, to explain that, first let's take a look at Chapter 1069.
Devil fruits are basically desires of their creators. Someone wished to become Jacket-Jacket, someone wanted to be slime, someone wanted to be a giraffe... And someone wanted to be Nika... to be free.
So WHO IS NIKA?
Obviously, we know that Joy Boy was a real character from ancient times. But Nika is described by Vegapunk as a character from ancient scriptures... and what's even more interesting, Luffy's devil fruit isn't "Human-human ANCIENT zoan," but it's MYTHOLOGICAL. Nika is a myth. A legend... He never really existed... He was just a story. A story told in ancient times. Told by the slaves who didn't have their freedom. They desired the freedom that Nika brought.
"Who knows if he really existed though"... he didn't. He was just a myth.
So what is the One Piece? Have you guessed it by now? As I've said, it is a story, more specifically, it is a story about Nika. A Laugh Tale.
The One Piece is DRUM ROLLS.............. a comic book. And Nika is a character from that said comic book. He was a "God" only in a comic book.
In the dark times that Joy Boy lived in, in the times of slavery, this comic book was his escape from reality, one light in these dark times... It brought him a sense of freedom, it brought him laughter. Joy Boy wanted to be free more than anything else... He wanted to become Nika, a character from his favorite comic book... His treasure. He wanted to free people, to bring smiles to people's faces. This comic book was what drove him to rebel against the 20 kingdoms that would later become the World Government, this comic book and the story, the laughter it brought him, one light in the dark times... he had to share it with others.
It is through this comic book that everyone was connected, similar to how we, the real fans, are connected through the One Piece manga, and Joy Boy alongside many others who desired freedom more than anything else banded together and used sake to symbolize their brotherhood and family.
And through advanced technology, Joy Boy was finally able to become the embodiment of freedom, he became Nika, he was able to bring laughter and freedom to other people with his powers that were so ridiculous... the powers that came straight out of a comic book.
There is a reason why Gear 5 is so funny, there is a reason why it looks so cartoonish... there is a reason why it looks like it's straight out of a comic book (Black and white)... It is because it is.
In the 2019 and 2020 Jump Festa, Oda has said that he hopes he will not reveal too much in Oden's flashback, and he said that Wano will be heavily related to the One Piece treasure. (And we got Oden's flashback, and we got Nika, which according to my theory is heavily related to the One Piece itself.)
But has he revealed the One Piece, as in, have we seen it?
As a matter of fact. WE HAVE SEEN IT!
Take a look at this small part from a huge panel:
Nothing unusual?
Well, what is this?
Roger is holding something... a book? A comic book? He's holding a comic book and he says it's a tale full of laughs. That, my friends, is the one remaining piece of Nika's comic book. Joy Boy's treasure.
(I've looked up this scene in the anime, and they actually deleted him holding anything, even though he's obviously holding something here.)
In the Void Century, 20 kingdoms (World Government) destroyed all of the comic books as they posed a threat of future rebellions, similar to how Nika's name was deleted and everything else about the Ancient Kingdom, but this single comic book survived. So, to not make the same mistake again, the Ancient Kingdom created poneglyphs and told their story, and they hid their one remaining treasure on the final island of "Laugh Tale" where someone in the future will find it.
There is a certain character that doesn't have a huge role in the story currently... but he will have a HUGE part in the final arc... And that character is none other than Big News Morgans.
So far in the story, he only dealt with bounty posters and news about the world through his newspapers... but, what if he gets a hold of this comic book? I mean, he's already rooting for Luffy to become Pirate King and he's certainly against the World Government... What IF he learns the truth about the world, and he is the one who copies this comic book a million times and spreads it all over the world in a day, alongside the truth about the world and the Void Century? - The World Government would go insane, they would have to kill everyone who has read his newspapers.... And the world would turn upside down. And the final war begins. (This would separate World Government soldiers into those who would obey every order and kill civilians without any question for the greater good and those who would protect civilians, this would cause the WG to divide into 2, and you'd have a WG civil war).
What if... what if Morgans actually already knows the truth? If you didn't know, Morgans ate a Zoan devil fruit and he is constantly in his hybrid form... It's as if he is hiding his true identity... What if Morgans was part of Roger's crew - it would explain why he's against the World Government and why he knows Luffy will become Pirate King and why he's rooting for him... And just like every other member of Roger's crew had a role to guide Luffy, so does Morgans... His role will be to inform the world about everything.
I hope you enjoyed this theory, please share your thoughts. :)
For a long time, the greatest theory was that the One Piece was going to be one sea in which everyone would be free to travel all over the world, or that it would be a weapon that would destroy the Red Line.
Is it sake? I suppose so, but I've had my doubts. It can't be just that. I had a theory in the back of my head for a long, long time, but I had no proof... not until Wano came and a certain panel was shown. That panel changed everything.
The One Piece is, in fact, Joy Boy's treasure, we learn it in Oden's flashback. Every character defines their own treasure differently. For Luffy, his hat is his treasure; for Sanji, his knives and hands; Zoro, his swords; Nami, her tangerines, etc.
So what is Joy Boy's treasure, what is the One Piece? It has to be something he valued more than anything.
According to this, Joy Boy's treasure is a funny story. So the One Piece is Joy Boy's story, the story of the Void Century?
Many fans actually speculated this due to this sentence, but no. If the One Piece is his story, then what would be the point of the Rio Poneglyph (9 poneglyphs that tell the story of the Void Century)?
Maybe the One Piece is the final missing poneglyph of the Rio Poneglyph? No, it would be... meh if that was the case.
So what is it?
First, the One Piece in Japanese is written as ひとつなぎの大秘宝, - Hito-tsunagi no Dai-hihō - and it has 3 meanings:
- Great hidden treasure in One Piece
- Sea at Peace
- Something that connects people/Rope that connects people
There is something even greater. It is a rope. But what is the rope in the One Piece?
Let me explain the meaning of the One Piece logo, which was designed by Oda himself. It represents the Grand Line surrounded by Calm Belts. The "O," with a skull in it, with crossed "X" represents Reverse Mountain, "NEP" is Paradise, the red "I" is Luffy, obviously the Red Line, "ECE" is the New World. And above and below everything are 2 blue lines, which are 2 Calm Belts. Notice how the last "E" is in the shape of an anchor? That is because that's where the adventure ends, where they'll put their anchor. And notice how the skull at the beginning is biting on the rope that is tied to the anchor... it's as if the Straw Hats were destined to reach the end. They were tied to it.
The rope represents the whole story of the One Piece; it is an adventure. Adventure and the story are what connect people. Millions of fans are reading One Piece weekly, and people from all over the world, from different religions, and different beliefs... we're all connected through the One Piece.
It's as Roger said, Joy Boy left such an unbelievable treasure, such a funny story...
So what I'm saying is that the One Piece is the adventure and the story we've been told throughout the series? That the whole One Piece manga is... the One Piece treasure...? No.
But similar to how Oda connected people from the real world, the same thing was done by Joy Boy through the One Piece treasure... he connected people from different races, different religions, and different kingdoms into what would later become the Ancient Kingdom. And sake that Binks brewed was used as a symbol of their brotherhood.
So what kind of story did Joy Boy tell?
Well, to explain that, first let's take a look at Chapter 1069.
Devil fruits are basically desires of their creators. Someone wished to become Jacket-Jacket, someone wanted to be slime, someone wanted to be a giraffe... And someone wanted to be Nika... to be free.
So WHO IS NIKA?
Obviously, we know that Joy Boy was a real character from ancient times. But Nika is described by Vegapunk as a character from ancient scriptures... and what's even more interesting, Luffy's devil fruit isn't "Human-human ANCIENT zoan," but it's MYTHOLOGICAL. Nika is a myth. A legend... He never really existed... He was just a story. A story told in ancient times. Told by the slaves who didn't have their freedom. They desired the freedom that Nika brought.
"Who knows if he really existed though"... he didn't. He was just a myth.
So what is the One Piece? Have you guessed it by now? As I've said, it is a story, more specifically, it is a story about Nika. A Laugh Tale.
The One Piece is DRUM ROLLS.............. a comic book. And Nika is a character from that said comic book. He was a "God" only in a comic book.
In the dark times that Joy Boy lived in, in the times of slavery, this comic book was his escape from reality, one light in these dark times... It brought him a sense of freedom, it brought him laughter. Joy Boy wanted to be free more than anything else... He wanted to become Nika, a character from his favorite comic book... His treasure. He wanted to free people, to bring smiles to people's faces. This comic book was what drove him to rebel against the 20 kingdoms that would later become the World Government, this comic book and the story, the laughter it brought him, one light in the dark times... he had to share it with others.
It is through this comic book that everyone was connected, similar to how we, the real fans, are connected through the One Piece manga, and Joy Boy alongside many others who desired freedom more than anything else banded together and used sake to symbolize their brotherhood and family.
And through advanced technology, Joy Boy was finally able to become the embodiment of freedom, he became Nika, he was able to bring laughter and freedom to other people with his powers that were so ridiculous... the powers that came straight out of a comic book.
There is a reason why Gear 5 is so funny, there is a reason why it looks so cartoonish... there is a reason why it looks like it's straight out of a comic book (Black and white)... It is because it is.
In the 2019 and 2020 Jump Festa, Oda has said that he hopes he will not reveal too much in Oden's flashback, and he said that Wano will be heavily related to the One Piece treasure. (And we got Oden's flashback, and we got Nika, which according to my theory is heavily related to the One Piece itself.)
But has he revealed the One Piece, as in, have we seen it?
As a matter of fact. WE HAVE SEEN IT!
Take a look at this small part from a huge panel:
Nothing unusual?
Well, what is this?
Roger is holding something... a book? A comic book? He's holding a comic book and he says it's a tale full of laughs. That, my friends, is the one remaining piece of Nika's comic book. Joy Boy's treasure.
(I've looked up this scene in the anime, and they actually deleted him holding anything, even though he's obviously holding something here.)
In the Void Century, 20 kingdoms (World Government) destroyed all of the comic books as they posed a threat of future rebellions, similar to how Nika's name was deleted and everything else about the Ancient Kingdom, but this single comic book survived. So, to not make the same mistake again, the Ancient Kingdom created poneglyphs and told their story, and they hid their one remaining treasure on the final island of "Laugh Tale" where someone in the future will find it.
There is a certain character that doesn't have a huge role in the story currently... but he will have a HUGE part in the final arc... And that character is none other than Big News Morgans.
So far in the story, he only dealt with bounty posters and news about the world through his newspapers... but, what if he gets a hold of this comic book? I mean, he's already rooting for Luffy to become Pirate King and he's certainly against the World Government... What IF he learns the truth about the world, and he is the one who copies this comic book a million times and spreads it all over the world in a day, alongside the truth about the world and the Void Century? - The World Government would go insane, they would have to kill everyone who has read his newspapers.... And the world would turn upside down. And the final war begins. (This would separate World Government soldiers into those who would obey every order and kill civilians without any question for the greater good and those who would protect civilians, this would cause the WG to divide into 2, and you'd have a WG civil war).
What if... what if Morgans actually already knows the truth? If you didn't know, Morgans ate a Zoan devil fruit and he is constantly in his hybrid form... It's as if he is hiding his true identity... What if Morgans was part of Roger's crew - it would explain why he's against the World Government and why he knows Luffy will become Pirate King and why he's rooting for him... And just like every other member of Roger's crew had a role to guide Luffy, so does Morgans... His role will be to inform the world about everything.
I hope you enjoyed this theory, please share your thoughts. :)
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Okay, this is very interesting information. I was NOT aware of a Anchor being called a "piece" or even a "one piece" before.
...As long as it turns out to be true. Just google searching online comes up with VERY little about anchors in general being called a "piece". If it IS actually a term, I don't think it's very commonly used.
...But, it kind of "reads" as being true, to me. It has a air of "truthiness" to me. A anchor's just a large lump of metal you use to slow down your boat. I can see people calling it a "piece", for short.
Plus, looking into it, there are plenty of examples of "3 Piece" anchors. Herreshoff Anchors and Luke Storm Anchors both break down into 3 pieces for easy storage. And there are examples of "One Piece" anchors that are just one, solid piece of metal that you can't break down. The ones I can find don't look like the One Piece logo anchor, but I'm not sure if that matters or not.
https://www.toplicht.de/en/anchorin...ssories/anchors/2096/herreshoff-dinghy-anchor
http://www.peluke.com/marine-hardware/boat-anchors/
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805386866249.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt
So, it's possible that "One Piece" is referring to a type of anchor that's one solid piece of metal. The more traditional kind of anchor that most people think of, instead of the more modern versions of anchors that can break down into pieces for easier storage.
So, if that WERE true, what would that mean?
Well, we've just seen Joyboy infuse his Haki into a knot that could be released centuries later. Chances are, a One Piece Anchor would be a similar thing. A Haki-infused Anchor that's used to do...something.
It kind of depends on if the "Anchor" being active is a good thing or a bad thing? Are we supposed to "drop" the Anchor, or are we supposed to "raise" the Anchor?
A Anchor can provide support and stability. It can help you stay home and not get blown away in the middle of a storm. But, it can also drag you down with it. And I could see a Anchor being used as a metaphor for "stagnation", and not being able to move forward. And with the entire world sinking, as we've learned, I'm going to guess the Anchor is more of a "bad" thing.
Maybe this Anchor is partially responsible for the world sinking? I could see this theoretical Haki Anchor going out of control and causing the world to sink, somehow.
Personally, I've had a theory that the One Piece World is actually a alien world that got terraformed in order to support human life. It's a LONG story, okay? You can read more about that if you want, here:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...message-will-be-the-dragons-are-coming.55673/
But, if we assume the terraforming theory could be true (which I know is a big ask), then it could mean that this Haki Anchor could be what helped change the planet's gravity to make it more suitable for human life. Maybe this Haki Anchor is actually at the center of this world, regulating it's gravity from the planet's core. Maybe this Haki Anchor is being used to make the gravity on this planet more Earth-like?
Maybe the holes in the ocean that Imu is using Uranos to make is causing this Haki Anchor to release more "gravitons" or gravity particles into the world? Changing the gravity of the world, and causing the islands to sink into the ocean due to the change in their weight. So, maybe the Strawhats have to "raise" this Haki Anchor, and return the world's gravity to what it used to be naturally, in order to stop this Haki Anchor from going out of control and crushing everything?
https://www.britannica.com/science/graviton
The problem with this line of thought is that, if the gravity of the entire world was actually changing, it would effect more than just the islands. People would be able to feel themselves get heavier and it'd be harder for them to move.
So....this line of thought was probably a big waste of time. Sorry about that. But, maybe the general idea can lead someone else to another similar path. I'm keeping it in.
Unless, of course, if this Haki Anchor can "target" and effect only the water or the land. Like how the Haki Knot can tell the different factions apart, somehow. If the Haki Anchor is "programmed" to only keep the water concentrated around itself, the Anchor weakening might be why the water levels are rising. The Haki Anchor might actually need to be "recharged" after 800 years in order to keep the water levels at a reasonable level, maybe.
But, as others have already brought up, there is the other definition of "anchor" to think about. A "anchor" as definied as someone who can't swim.
Now, as far as I can tell, the more common term for that in Japanese is actually "hammer" or "karazuchi". But...chances are "anchor" is also a acceptable term for it.
reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/3c5vtx/the_meaning_of_%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B8%E3%83%81/
https://zokugo--dict-com.translate....l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Luffy is a "anchor". In fact, all Devil Fruit users are "anchors" in this way. And "hammer" also works for Luffy, since he uses a lot of punching attacks, that could be described as "hammering blows".
So, could Luffy himself BE the "Anchor"? Could he need to eventually journey down to the ocean's bottom in order to achieve something? Could Luffy NEED to let himself sink into the ocean in order to find the One Piece?
Maybe. It's possible that the One Piece Treasure is actually on Laugh Tale. Just not on it's current surface. Maybe the treasure is where the surface level used to be, before the sea levels rose. You might need to journey down below the ocean, in order to find the One Piece Treasure. Or maybe even beyond the old surface, into the very core of the planet itself! (I'm not giving up on the idea that the Strawhats will eventually journey into the literal Underworld, yet!)
Also, apparently, ancient people used to use anchors as tributes to the gods in order to gain their favor.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/goddess-love-0013789
They'd throw a anchor overboard in order for it to act as a offering to a god, especially for luck getting out of a storm.
So, it'd be kind of interesting, if at some point in the future, Luffy himself gets "offered" to the Sea Goddess or Mother Ocean in order to quell her wrath. Luffy might get offered up in order to reverse the Devil Fruit Curse, or something. I could see it happening. The anchor in the One Piece logo is tied to a skull, kind of hinting at some sort of human sacrifice, after all.
The Anchor is also sometimes used a symbol of love. Which is interesting if any of the Imu loving Lili/Vivi theories turn out to be true.
https://thomassabo.com.au/blogs/mag...WAZmnL29Hylz2LTKDbUDWWnfryB3omsey_LK5bq_jfxnh
Unless Imu's actually planning on using Vivi as the human sacrifice instead of Luffy. Lili did die at sea, after all. I'm just going to put that out there.
There's also the Anchored Cross, or Mariner's Cross. Which is seen as a symbol of hope. Fitting for the symbol of a “savior” like Nika or Luffy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clement's_Cross
This is very very similar to St Clement's Cross. And notably, St Clement died from being tied to a anchor and drowned. Leading a bit more credence that this is probably symbolizing Luffy getting sacrificed to the sea.
There's also Maui's Fish Hook, from Polynesian mythology. It's called Manaiakalani (meaning "The Chief's Fishline"). And notably, it was used to drag up the Hawaiian islands from the ocean's floor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māui_(Hawaiian_mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manaiakalani
https://danielshawaii.com/what-does-the-fish-hook-symbolize/
So, maybe this special magic Anchor was what was used to create the Red Line? We still don't know what did that. And maybe it will be used again to create more land for the surface?
Notably, Maui also used his hook to capture the Sun. So, maybe the Anchor we're looking for ALSO has some way to "seal away" Nika?
So, it's a very interesting idea. I might need to think about it a little more, to get a better idea how to use it, though.
I just want to say, this is VERY well described. The idea of the logo, itself, being a map of the world isn't one I've really thought about, but it's so obvious now that you mention it. Good job!
But, that being said...
Personally, I tend to disagree with the whole "Comic Book of Nika" idea.
It's not a bad idea, really. It's cute. Artur's been pushing it a lot recently, and I respect his opinion on most theories. And if it turns out to be true, I won't be too mad about it. And if this were another kind of story, I could see it working. But, I personally just don't think that it fits in with the rest of what Oda is doing in the story.
For one thing, it just feels a little too self-congratulatory for Oda? "My story is the key to bringing peace and happiness all throughout the world!" It just feels like you'd need a pretty big ego to even consider something like that? Making the treasure a manga like the One Piece manga just feels like it'd be too much of a way to stroke his own ego and self-importance. And I really don't think it serves the story itself very well.
As amusing as it would be to end the series with the Strawhats sitting around reading manga, that's really something that'd be used more for a cover page, rather than the conclusion to a 30 year old epic saga. I, personally, don't feel like it'd be the most satisfying conclusion. There are ways to make it "acceptable", but I feel like it wouldn't be the best way to end things.
Second, I think it just feels a little too meta for Oda? There are a lot of authors out there who go capital-M Meta ALL the time. Grant Morrison is a perfect example of this. And in those kind of stories, it works. Because the entire story is really about playing with tropes, and cliches, and story structure, and stories and the medium they're in, themselves. The story is built from the ground up to accommodate that.
But, One Piece doesn't really get that meta. Even when we have the perfect chance to do that with the Nika Fruit. Luffy COULD be going around trapping people in the gutters of the pages. Or reaching through panels in order to grab something from a future panel. But, he hasn't, yet.
We have social commentary. And we have references to the real world. But, most of the "meta" stuff is stuck in the cover pages, which can be....loosely canonical at times.
Oda hasn't really built up going that meta in the story so far. I don't think he'll end up throwing it in last minute.
Thirdly, and the most important point in my book, I think making Nika fictional would actually undermine a lot of the themes that Oda HAS been sprinkling into the story.
Here's the thing. Oda has basically been going out of his way to show us, all throughout this story, that EVERYTHING is real (from a certain point of view).
Everything that the Strawhats have assumed may just be mythical or just a story BEFORE they began their journey, has turned out to be real. Mermaids. Dragons. Sky Islands. The Germa 66. The legendary One Piece Treasure, itself. EVERYTHING in this world has some basis in fact.
This seems to be Oda's way of saying "Your dreams CAN come true, because EVERYTHING you dream can be real".
So, why would Nika, one of the most important "mythological" figures in this entire story, turn out to be fictional? It just feels....arbitrary to me. It doesn't make sense to me for THIS to be the lone exception. What, "fairies" like the Tontatta can be real, but we're drawing the line at Gods, for some reason? Why? What purpose does that serve in the story?
It would feel like a twist for the sake of having a twist. I don't feel like it serves the deeper lessons that the story is trying to convey.
Now, I'm not saying that Nika HAS to be a literal God. Oda has also been pointing out that not everything is true, either. Everything can have a grain of truth...but not ALL of it has to be the truth. There are examples of there being exaggerations or alterations to the stories, as they happened. Like Liar Nolan's story.
But, if this World DOES turn out to be a terraformed alien world, he could still be this world's "Creator" in a different way. Nika could just be one of the original astronauts that helped shape this world into the form we know today. That way, we kind of have our cake and eat it, too. Nika is still a "creator", without being a all-powerful "God". Personally, I'd be fine if we brought literal Gods into the story, but I know some people get annoyed at that. So, make them "ancient aliens" instead.
To me, the "Ancient"'/"Mythical" Zoan difference is a non-issue. We just saw that Devil Fruits can be misnamed or mislabeled with the Nika Fruit, so this could just be another case. And this might not be a case of "mythical" meaning "fictional", but instead just meaning "legendary".
As for what Roger is looking down at....that's actually a good point. And I don't have a good retort for it.
It's possible it's just a translation of the last Poneglyph etching, a scroll or parchment he's reading the story off of. Or it could be his knee if he was sitting down. But, those are both boring answers. And I'll admit, they're pretty weak.
So, whatever Roger's looking at could be a good catch. That could be something important later on. But, I don't think that alone proves that Nika is a comic book character.
As for Kaido saying Nika's like something out of a comic strip....well, he's right! It's right out of "Sora Warrior of the Sea".
If you remember, Sora had a pet bird (possibly representing Uranos)...and a Giant Robot who fought alongside him against the Germa 66. A lot like Nika and Emeth fought together during the Void Century.
The Germa 66 (in the comic strip) were a group of 5 warriors lead by their shadowy overlord. Which pretty nicely parallels Imu and the Gorosei.
It seems like the World Government changed the story of Joyboy into the story of a righteous Marine upholding the ideals of the World Government. "Sora" is Joyboy. They just changed the story of a righteous pirate rebelling against the government into the story of a Marine defending the laws of The World Government. They altered Joyboy's story into World Government propaganda FOR them!
The Germa 66 that WE know from One Piece's story, Sanji's entire family, are basically Imu and Gorosei cosplayers!
I'll admit, it's a little odd for the Gorosei to let themselves be seen as the bad guys. If they WERE the original Germa 66. But, they seem pretty content to just stay in the shadows. They might not care about what the stories paint them as, as long as the story they create ends up recruiting people into the Marines.
...As long as it turns out to be true. Just google searching online comes up with VERY little about anchors in general being called a "piece". If it IS actually a term, I don't think it's very commonly used.
...But, it kind of "reads" as being true, to me. It has a air of "truthiness" to me. A anchor's just a large lump of metal you use to slow down your boat. I can see people calling it a "piece", for short.
Plus, looking into it, there are plenty of examples of "3 Piece" anchors. Herreshoff Anchors and Luke Storm Anchors both break down into 3 pieces for easy storage. And there are examples of "One Piece" anchors that are just one, solid piece of metal that you can't break down. The ones I can find don't look like the One Piece logo anchor, but I'm not sure if that matters or not.
https://www.toplicht.de/en/anchorin...ssories/anchors/2096/herreshoff-dinghy-anchor
http://www.peluke.com/marine-hardware/boat-anchors/
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805386866249.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt
So, it's possible that "One Piece" is referring to a type of anchor that's one solid piece of metal. The more traditional kind of anchor that most people think of, instead of the more modern versions of anchors that can break down into pieces for easier storage.
So, if that WERE true, what would that mean?
Well, we've just seen Joyboy infuse his Haki into a knot that could be released centuries later. Chances are, a One Piece Anchor would be a similar thing. A Haki-infused Anchor that's used to do...something.
It kind of depends on if the "Anchor" being active is a good thing or a bad thing? Are we supposed to "drop" the Anchor, or are we supposed to "raise" the Anchor?
A Anchor can provide support and stability. It can help you stay home and not get blown away in the middle of a storm. But, it can also drag you down with it. And I could see a Anchor being used as a metaphor for "stagnation", and not being able to move forward. And with the entire world sinking, as we've learned, I'm going to guess the Anchor is more of a "bad" thing.
Maybe this Anchor is partially responsible for the world sinking? I could see this theoretical Haki Anchor going out of control and causing the world to sink, somehow.
Personally, I've had a theory that the One Piece World is actually a alien world that got terraformed in order to support human life. It's a LONG story, okay? You can read more about that if you want, here:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...message-will-be-the-dragons-are-coming.55673/
But, if we assume the terraforming theory could be true (which I know is a big ask), then it could mean that this Haki Anchor could be what helped change the planet's gravity to make it more suitable for human life. Maybe this Haki Anchor is actually at the center of this world, regulating it's gravity from the planet's core. Maybe this Haki Anchor is being used to make the gravity on this planet more Earth-like?
Maybe the holes in the ocean that Imu is using Uranos to make is causing this Haki Anchor to release more "gravitons" or gravity particles into the world? Changing the gravity of the world, and causing the islands to sink into the ocean due to the change in their weight. So, maybe the Strawhats have to "raise" this Haki Anchor, and return the world's gravity to what it used to be naturally, in order to stop this Haki Anchor from going out of control and crushing everything?
https://www.britannica.com/science/graviton
The problem with this line of thought is that, if the gravity of the entire world was actually changing, it would effect more than just the islands. People would be able to feel themselves get heavier and it'd be harder for them to move.
So....this line of thought was probably a big waste of time. Sorry about that. But, maybe the general idea can lead someone else to another similar path. I'm keeping it in.
Unless, of course, if this Haki Anchor can "target" and effect only the water or the land. Like how the Haki Knot can tell the different factions apart, somehow. If the Haki Anchor is "programmed" to only keep the water concentrated around itself, the Anchor weakening might be why the water levels are rising. The Haki Anchor might actually need to be "recharged" after 800 years in order to keep the water levels at a reasonable level, maybe.
But, as others have already brought up, there is the other definition of "anchor" to think about. A "anchor" as definied as someone who can't swim.
Now, as far as I can tell, the more common term for that in Japanese is actually "hammer" or "karazuchi". But...chances are "anchor" is also a acceptable term for it.
reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/3c5vtx/the_meaning_of_%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B8%E3%83%81/
https://zokugo--dict-com.translate....l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Luffy is a "anchor". In fact, all Devil Fruit users are "anchors" in this way. And "hammer" also works for Luffy, since he uses a lot of punching attacks, that could be described as "hammering blows".
So, could Luffy himself BE the "Anchor"? Could he need to eventually journey down to the ocean's bottom in order to achieve something? Could Luffy NEED to let himself sink into the ocean in order to find the One Piece?
Maybe. It's possible that the One Piece Treasure is actually on Laugh Tale. Just not on it's current surface. Maybe the treasure is where the surface level used to be, before the sea levels rose. You might need to journey down below the ocean, in order to find the One Piece Treasure. Or maybe even beyond the old surface, into the very core of the planet itself! (I'm not giving up on the idea that the Strawhats will eventually journey into the literal Underworld, yet!)
Also, apparently, ancient people used to use anchors as tributes to the gods in order to gain their favor.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/goddess-love-0013789
They'd throw a anchor overboard in order for it to act as a offering to a god, especially for luck getting out of a storm.
So, it'd be kind of interesting, if at some point in the future, Luffy himself gets "offered" to the Sea Goddess or Mother Ocean in order to quell her wrath. Luffy might get offered up in order to reverse the Devil Fruit Curse, or something. I could see it happening. The anchor in the One Piece logo is tied to a skull, kind of hinting at some sort of human sacrifice, after all.
The Anchor is also sometimes used a symbol of love. Which is interesting if any of the Imu loving Lili/Vivi theories turn out to be true.
https://thomassabo.com.au/blogs/mag...WAZmnL29Hylz2LTKDbUDWWnfryB3omsey_LK5bq_jfxnh
Unless Imu's actually planning on using Vivi as the human sacrifice instead of Luffy. Lili did die at sea, after all. I'm just going to put that out there.
There's also the Anchored Cross, or Mariner's Cross. Which is seen as a symbol of hope. Fitting for the symbol of a “savior” like Nika or Luffy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clement's_Cross
This is very very similar to St Clement's Cross. And notably, St Clement died from being tied to a anchor and drowned. Leading a bit more credence that this is probably symbolizing Luffy getting sacrificed to the sea.
There's also Maui's Fish Hook, from Polynesian mythology. It's called Manaiakalani (meaning "The Chief's Fishline"). And notably, it was used to drag up the Hawaiian islands from the ocean's floor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māui_(Hawaiian_mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manaiakalani
https://danielshawaii.com/what-does-the-fish-hook-symbolize/
So, maybe this special magic Anchor was what was used to create the Red Line? We still don't know what did that. And maybe it will be used again to create more land for the surface?
Notably, Maui also used his hook to capture the Sun. So, maybe the Anchor we're looking for ALSO has some way to "seal away" Nika?
So, it's a very interesting idea. I might need to think about it a little more, to get a better idea how to use it, though.
I just want to say, this is VERY well described. The idea of the logo, itself, being a map of the world isn't one I've really thought about, but it's so obvious now that you mention it. Good job!
But, that being said...
Personally, I tend to disagree with the whole "Comic Book of Nika" idea.
It's not a bad idea, really. It's cute. Artur's been pushing it a lot recently, and I respect his opinion on most theories. And if it turns out to be true, I won't be too mad about it. And if this were another kind of story, I could see it working. But, I personally just don't think that it fits in with the rest of what Oda is doing in the story.
For one thing, it just feels a little too self-congratulatory for Oda? "My story is the key to bringing peace and happiness all throughout the world!" It just feels like you'd need a pretty big ego to even consider something like that? Making the treasure a manga like the One Piece manga just feels like it'd be too much of a way to stroke his own ego and self-importance. And I really don't think it serves the story itself very well.
As amusing as it would be to end the series with the Strawhats sitting around reading manga, that's really something that'd be used more for a cover page, rather than the conclusion to a 30 year old epic saga. I, personally, don't feel like it'd be the most satisfying conclusion. There are ways to make it "acceptable", but I feel like it wouldn't be the best way to end things.
Second, I think it just feels a little too meta for Oda? There are a lot of authors out there who go capital-M Meta ALL the time. Grant Morrison is a perfect example of this. And in those kind of stories, it works. Because the entire story is really about playing with tropes, and cliches, and story structure, and stories and the medium they're in, themselves. The story is built from the ground up to accommodate that.
But, One Piece doesn't really get that meta. Even when we have the perfect chance to do that with the Nika Fruit. Luffy COULD be going around trapping people in the gutters of the pages. Or reaching through panels in order to grab something from a future panel. But, he hasn't, yet.
We have social commentary. And we have references to the real world. But, most of the "meta" stuff is stuck in the cover pages, which can be....loosely canonical at times.
Oda hasn't really built up going that meta in the story so far. I don't think he'll end up throwing it in last minute.
Thirdly, and the most important point in my book, I think making Nika fictional would actually undermine a lot of the themes that Oda HAS been sprinkling into the story.
Here's the thing. Oda has basically been going out of his way to show us, all throughout this story, that EVERYTHING is real (from a certain point of view).
Everything that the Strawhats have assumed may just be mythical or just a story BEFORE they began their journey, has turned out to be real. Mermaids. Dragons. Sky Islands. The Germa 66. The legendary One Piece Treasure, itself. EVERYTHING in this world has some basis in fact.
This seems to be Oda's way of saying "Your dreams CAN come true, because EVERYTHING you dream can be real".
So, why would Nika, one of the most important "mythological" figures in this entire story, turn out to be fictional? It just feels....arbitrary to me. It doesn't make sense to me for THIS to be the lone exception. What, "fairies" like the Tontatta can be real, but we're drawing the line at Gods, for some reason? Why? What purpose does that serve in the story?
It would feel like a twist for the sake of having a twist. I don't feel like it serves the deeper lessons that the story is trying to convey.
Now, I'm not saying that Nika HAS to be a literal God. Oda has also been pointing out that not everything is true, either. Everything can have a grain of truth...but not ALL of it has to be the truth. There are examples of there being exaggerations or alterations to the stories, as they happened. Like Liar Nolan's story.
But, if this World DOES turn out to be a terraformed alien world, he could still be this world's "Creator" in a different way. Nika could just be one of the original astronauts that helped shape this world into the form we know today. That way, we kind of have our cake and eat it, too. Nika is still a "creator", without being a all-powerful "God". Personally, I'd be fine if we brought literal Gods into the story, but I know some people get annoyed at that. So, make them "ancient aliens" instead.
To me, the "Ancient"'/"Mythical" Zoan difference is a non-issue. We just saw that Devil Fruits can be misnamed or mislabeled with the Nika Fruit, so this could just be another case. And this might not be a case of "mythical" meaning "fictional", but instead just meaning "legendary".
As for what Roger is looking down at....that's actually a good point. And I don't have a good retort for it.
It's possible it's just a translation of the last Poneglyph etching, a scroll or parchment he's reading the story off of. Or it could be his knee if he was sitting down. But, those are both boring answers. And I'll admit, they're pretty weak.
So, whatever Roger's looking at could be a good catch. That could be something important later on. But, I don't think that alone proves that Nika is a comic book character.
As for Kaido saying Nika's like something out of a comic strip....well, he's right! It's right out of "Sora Warrior of the Sea".
If you remember, Sora had a pet bird (possibly representing Uranos)...and a Giant Robot who fought alongside him against the Germa 66. A lot like Nika and Emeth fought together during the Void Century.
The Germa 66 (in the comic strip) were a group of 5 warriors lead by their shadowy overlord. Which pretty nicely parallels Imu and the Gorosei.
It seems like the World Government changed the story of Joyboy into the story of a righteous Marine upholding the ideals of the World Government. "Sora" is Joyboy. They just changed the story of a righteous pirate rebelling against the government into the story of a Marine defending the laws of The World Government. They altered Joyboy's story into World Government propaganda FOR them!
The Germa 66 that WE know from One Piece's story, Sanji's entire family, are basically Imu and Gorosei cosplayers!
I'll admit, it's a little odd for the Gorosei to let themselves be seen as the bad guys. If they WERE the original Germa 66. But, they seem pretty content to just stay in the shadows. They might not care about what the stories paint them as, as long as the story they create ends up recruiting people into the Marines.
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First chapter of the manga:
Bonus: shanks is a part of the anchor
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@minamoto Its over for mecha heart
First chapter of the manga:
Bonus: shanks is a part of the anchor
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@minamoto Its over for mecha heart
one piece trezor is a mecha heart zat will be placed on lufy's x scar chest
