[Damn this image limit]
Yeah you know this shit is going to be good when this is how I start the OP lmfao.
I realized this thread was a necessity after the recent poll results in GHK related versus threads. Firstly,
…Which, okay okay I get it, Man’U throttled Moubu and fought equally with him, it’s not outrageous that the poll was this one sided I guess… but then, this:
And the realization dawned upon me, that people do not see Dumpling Sama as a character superior to Gyou’Un and Man’U in strength, which is where he belongs. Even I myself voted for prime Gyou’Un over him, showing that I must educate even myself on the greatness of the Dumpling.
And keep in mind as I say this, I am the biggest Gyou’Un fanboy on WorstGen, no question. I also predicted that Man’U would be comparable in strength to Moubu back when the WorstGen consensus was that Moubu would defeat him easily. So in other words, I’m pretty good at predicting and analyzing Hara’s power level writing. He and I think in a similar line of logic I think (fuck stats).
And with that said, I’m here to explain why Gakuhaku Kou was the strongest and most versatile warrior in Zhao and was a serious contender for all-around strongest warrior in China at the time his death. To be clear, I understand that characters like Shibashou and Kou En have enormous hype placed on their shoulders, but I seriously doubt these guys are going to show versatility as warriors on the level of Gakuhaku Kou who was basically portrayed as a Demigod warrior in certain instances (which hey, fits thematically as a subordinate of Kantan’s Guardian Deity). So with that said, join me on my gluttonous quest for self-punishment as I shamelessly wank a character that only existed in the manga for about 10 chapters and will likely never be referenced again. And yes, do @me.
I. Beggars Shall Be Choosers
So as I said, picture the character in your head who you believe is the strongest motherfucker in China. Now join me in the realization that the character you are picturing lacks the incredible versatility possessed by the master of the Dumpling Arts.
You picturing Moubu? At the end of the day, all Moubu has going for him is extreme brute strength.
You picturing Kyoukai/Rei? They are both incredibly skilled warriors with crazy martial arts but they lack the brute power of some of Kingdom’s beefier brutes.
You picturing Renpa because of his enormous Weight of a Great General? That’s great, but can Renpa literally vanish across the battlefield using vanishing technique martial arts that can fool entire cavalry units? Nay I say.
You picturing Shouheikun? You have a massive brain indeed, however Shouheikun’s days as an active battlefield combatant are behind him, and at best Shouheikun probably maintains his battlefield drills so as to not stagnate in strength, but Shouheikun is not a character who is in his prime as a warrior anymore.
Gakuhaku Kou, boasts all of the above criteria (minus the Weight of a GG but don’t worry, we’ll get to that later). Gakuhaku Kou is a massively powerful brute manimal strong enough to hardcore overwhelm Glaive Shin, he is so fast that he can dodge Shin’s Glaive strikes in a manner that leaves after images, he can literally vanish across the battlefield wreaking havoc across lines of troops while remaining largely invisible or concealed, and the man seems to be in his physical prime, as the source of his strength is good-old-fashioned training rather than battlefield experience (as he appears to have spent recent years training inside of Kantan).
Regardless of who you may believe to be stronger than Gakuhaku Kou, you must concede that there isn’t a warrior in China right now more versatile than this man. The only more versatile character we’ve seen quite frankly is Houken the martial god himself, and even this is sort of questionable as Houken’s martial arts weren’t necessarily superior to Gakuhaku Kou’s, they were simply different. More on that later.
II. Sun’s Out, Guns Out
So, let’s talk about lord Gakuhaku Kou’s massive brawn. This dude, is fucking ridiculous:
Every time this guy swings his mace, multiple horses and their riders go flying through the air. Dumpling Sama even disorients the Hi Shin Cavalry specifically by sending their own horses and riders flying at each other:
Literally every time this mongoloid swings his mace, it looks like a freaking tornado spawned and is sending entire groups of cavalry flying across the battlefield. But I know that a lot of you don’t like to scale this way, even though yes, I believe Hara’s powerscaling is so consistent and well thought out that we can literally gauge the power levels of characters by counting the horses/humans they send flying, let’s look at some 1v1 combat feats of strength:
So, this Shin is a version of Shin who
A) Defeated Houken
B) unlocked the magic “Weight” powerup last arc
And that said, Gakuhaku Kou is still absolutely owning him in a contest of strength.
You see, Shin literally is not make Gakuhaku Kou budge with his Glaive strikes. This is a stronger version of the Shin that forced Gaimou into a horizontal position on his horse:
A stronger version of the Shin that broke Gyou’Un’s guard:
And perhaps most importantly, a stronger (and less wounded) version of the Shin who thrashed Houken multiple times:
Now sure, Shin was more emotionally involved in each of these duels than he was with Gakuhaku Kou, but he was also wounded, and Gakuhaku Kou did not struggle in matching Glaive Shin’s power in the slightest and never had his guard broken by Shin whilst sending him flying multiple times. These other strong-ass warriors had their guards broken by Shin on one or more occasions during their duels, but not Gakuhaku Kou.
Objectively speaking, Gakuhaku Kou looks physically stronger (in terms of brute power) than each of these characters.
Now, in terms of Gakuhaku Kou lacking weight:
A) I’m not even sure if this is true, because Shin never comments on whether he has Weight or not, and Shin frequently comments on whether or not his opponents have weight. So I have no idea what to make of this.
B) it really doesn’t seem to matter whether Gakuhaku Kou was confirmed to have Weight or not, as Shin pretty much immediately gives up on trying to fight Gakuhaku Kou with the Glaive, which is something we’ve never seen him do before.
So, that’s a pretty good Segway:
III. Is This Bitch Teleporting Or What
“Dumpling Sama is the fastest man in all of China”-Confuscious
It’s sort of wrong to say Shin gave up with the Glaive because he couldn’t match Dumpling Sama’s strength, when the truth is that Shin was simply too slow to land any hits at all on the guy:
We have never, not once, seen a character dodge Shin in this manner. Sure most fights with Shin have been mounted fights, but not even Houken himself was dancing around Shin’s Glaive strikes, so I doubt we’ll see people like Shibashou or Kou En doing this in the future. Not to mention, Gakuhaku Kou’s vanishing. We have to talk about this shit:
Gakuhaku Kou can simply disappear using his extreme martial arts, in such an effective manner that even an 8 foot tall behemoth like himself can straight up hide from lines full of cavalry. This happens multiple times:
This is noticeably different from how characters like Renpa fight cavalry on foot. For Renpa (a more traditional GG warrior) and Houken (the martial god), fighting cavalry involved simply fighting them head on:
But for the Lord of the Dumplings,
It is no exaggeration to say that Gakuhaku Kou is the single fastest and most skilled foot-warrior we’ve ever seen, minus potentially priestess dance Kyoukai/Kyourei and Houken himself.
So, Gakuhaku Kou is stupidly fast even with his mace, but this gigantic pastry isn’t even primarily a mace weilder apparently.
Which brings us to our next topic:
IV: Call An Ambulance, But Not For Me
So Shin switches to the Sword to eliminate the speed disadvantages he had faced with the Glaive, and at first Gakuhaku Kou actually keeps up with him for a bit:
But after taking a very minor injury:
We get Gakuhaku Kou switching to what he describes as the weapon that best compliments his martial arts:
And Gakuhaku Kou proceeds to perform a variety of straight up silly feats of strength and skill. Firstly, Gakuhaku Kou keeps Shin on the back foot in a contest of swordsmanship:
Still dodging Shin’s sword strikes and breaking Shin’s guard:
Now this doesn’t last forever as Shin is able to recall his old experience with the sword, and is able to bring the fight back to an even-pace:
But then what happens?
Now sure, Dumpling doubters will point out how Shin actually got attacked by Gakuhaku Kou’s own cavalry in between sparring, but the Hi Shin Unit’s strong-ass infantry also attacked Gakuhaku Kou, who retaliated overwhelmingly:
And as the fight continues, Gakuhaku Kou continues to prove himself overwhelmingly superior to Shin:
The only way Shin was able to defeat this guy, was obviously through an ingenious display of weapon-switching after immobilizing him:
But otherwise, Shin was completely inferior to Gakuhaku Kou as a warrior. I don’t subscribe to the “Shin won by fighting smart, therefore he is stronger” line of reasoning. Shin is weaker than Gakuhaku Kou in just about every way, but won the fight by fighting intelligence. That makes the most sense for me.
V: Olympic Gold
Doubters: “Gakuhaku Kou is not the strongest in Kingdom, X character has more hype placed upon them”
Me:
So, let us once again briefly recount Dumpling Sama’s versatility and strength:
1. Dumpling Sama has brute power on par with Moubu and Kanmei as his strength can easily decimate huge numbers of troops and horses at once
2. He has Vanishing Martial Arts on par with Kyoukai and Kyourei if not superior that he can use in conjunction with both the mace and the sword
3. He has extreme skill and speed with the sword that he can combine with hand to hand combat capable of shattering armor
4. Even if he is not confirmed to have Weight, he brutally overwhelmed Shin using every single fighting style, showing that his brute power is just so high that this really doesn’t seem to be an issue.
And much like the shape of Gakuhaku Kou’s hair stylings, let us bring this post perfect circle:
Thank you all for reading :)
@Owl Ki
@MarineHQ62
@RiShin
@Xione
@TheKnightOfTheSea
@Blackbeard
@Dark Admiral
@KageFumi
@RayanOO
@Monet
@Jailer
@mad monk
@Guiding_Thunder
@Arara
@Hiragaro
@FaradaySloth
@Dragomir
@Bepo
@Desolate Smaug
@NidaiKitetsu
@Admiral Mou Bu
Etc etc etc
Yeah you know this shit is going to be good when this is how I start the OP lmfao.
I realized this thread was a necessity after the recent poll results in GHK related versus threads. Firstly,
…Which, okay okay I get it, Man’U throttled Moubu and fought equally with him, it’s not outrageous that the poll was this one sided I guess… but then, this:
And the realization dawned upon me, that people do not see Dumpling Sama as a character superior to Gyou’Un and Man’U in strength, which is where he belongs. Even I myself voted for prime Gyou’Un over him, showing that I must educate even myself on the greatness of the Dumpling.
And keep in mind as I say this, I am the biggest Gyou’Un fanboy on WorstGen, no question. I also predicted that Man’U would be comparable in strength to Moubu back when the WorstGen consensus was that Moubu would defeat him easily. So in other words, I’m pretty good at predicting and analyzing Hara’s power level writing. He and I think in a similar line of logic I think (fuck stats).
And with that said, I’m here to explain why Gakuhaku Kou was the strongest and most versatile warrior in Zhao and was a serious contender for all-around strongest warrior in China at the time his death. To be clear, I understand that characters like Shibashou and Kou En have enormous hype placed on their shoulders, but I seriously doubt these guys are going to show versatility as warriors on the level of Gakuhaku Kou who was basically portrayed as a Demigod warrior in certain instances (which hey, fits thematically as a subordinate of Kantan’s Guardian Deity). So with that said, join me on my gluttonous quest for self-punishment as I shamelessly wank a character that only existed in the manga for about 10 chapters and will likely never be referenced again. And yes, do @me.
I. Beggars Shall Be Choosers
So as I said, picture the character in your head who you believe is the strongest motherfucker in China. Now join me in the realization that the character you are picturing lacks the incredible versatility possessed by the master of the Dumpling Arts.
You picturing Moubu? At the end of the day, all Moubu has going for him is extreme brute strength.
You picturing Kyoukai/Rei? They are both incredibly skilled warriors with crazy martial arts but they lack the brute power of some of Kingdom’s beefier brutes.
You picturing Renpa because of his enormous Weight of a Great General? That’s great, but can Renpa literally vanish across the battlefield using vanishing technique martial arts that can fool entire cavalry units? Nay I say.
You picturing Shouheikun? You have a massive brain indeed, however Shouheikun’s days as an active battlefield combatant are behind him, and at best Shouheikun probably maintains his battlefield drills so as to not stagnate in strength, but Shouheikun is not a character who is in his prime as a warrior anymore.
Gakuhaku Kou, boasts all of the above criteria (minus the Weight of a GG but don’t worry, we’ll get to that later). Gakuhaku Kou is a massively powerful brute manimal strong enough to hardcore overwhelm Glaive Shin, he is so fast that he can dodge Shin’s Glaive strikes in a manner that leaves after images, he can literally vanish across the battlefield wreaking havoc across lines of troops while remaining largely invisible or concealed, and the man seems to be in his physical prime, as the source of his strength is good-old-fashioned training rather than battlefield experience (as he appears to have spent recent years training inside of Kantan).
Regardless of who you may believe to be stronger than Gakuhaku Kou, you must concede that there isn’t a warrior in China right now more versatile than this man. The only more versatile character we’ve seen quite frankly is Houken the martial god himself, and even this is sort of questionable as Houken’s martial arts weren’t necessarily superior to Gakuhaku Kou’s, they were simply different. More on that later.
II. Sun’s Out, Guns Out
So, let’s talk about lord Gakuhaku Kou’s massive brawn. This dude, is fucking ridiculous:
Every time this guy swings his mace, multiple horses and their riders go flying through the air. Dumpling Sama even disorients the Hi Shin Cavalry specifically by sending their own horses and riders flying at each other:
Literally every time this mongoloid swings his mace, it looks like a freaking tornado spawned and is sending entire groups of cavalry flying across the battlefield. But I know that a lot of you don’t like to scale this way, even though yes, I believe Hara’s powerscaling is so consistent and well thought out that we can literally gauge the power levels of characters by counting the horses/humans they send flying, let’s look at some 1v1 combat feats of strength:
So, this Shin is a version of Shin who
A) Defeated Houken
B) unlocked the magic “Weight” powerup last arc
And that said, Gakuhaku Kou is still absolutely owning him in a contest of strength.
You see, Shin literally is not make Gakuhaku Kou budge with his Glaive strikes. This is a stronger version of the Shin that forced Gaimou into a horizontal position on his horse:
A stronger version of the Shin that broke Gyou’Un’s guard:
And perhaps most importantly, a stronger (and less wounded) version of the Shin who thrashed Houken multiple times:
Now sure, Shin was more emotionally involved in each of these duels than he was with Gakuhaku Kou, but he was also wounded, and Gakuhaku Kou did not struggle in matching Glaive Shin’s power in the slightest and never had his guard broken by Shin whilst sending him flying multiple times. These other strong-ass warriors had their guards broken by Shin on one or more occasions during their duels, but not Gakuhaku Kou.
Objectively speaking, Gakuhaku Kou looks physically stronger (in terms of brute power) than each of these characters.
Now, in terms of Gakuhaku Kou lacking weight:
A) I’m not even sure if this is true, because Shin never comments on whether he has Weight or not, and Shin frequently comments on whether or not his opponents have weight. So I have no idea what to make of this.
B) it really doesn’t seem to matter whether Gakuhaku Kou was confirmed to have Weight or not, as Shin pretty much immediately gives up on trying to fight Gakuhaku Kou with the Glaive, which is something we’ve never seen him do before.
So, that’s a pretty good Segway:
III. Is This Bitch Teleporting Or What
“Dumpling Sama is the fastest man in all of China”-Confuscious
It’s sort of wrong to say Shin gave up with the Glaive because he couldn’t match Dumpling Sama’s strength, when the truth is that Shin was simply too slow to land any hits at all on the guy:
We have never, not once, seen a character dodge Shin in this manner. Sure most fights with Shin have been mounted fights, but not even Houken himself was dancing around Shin’s Glaive strikes, so I doubt we’ll see people like Shibashou or Kou En doing this in the future. Not to mention, Gakuhaku Kou’s vanishing. We have to talk about this shit:
Gakuhaku Kou can simply disappear using his extreme martial arts, in such an effective manner that even an 8 foot tall behemoth like himself can straight up hide from lines full of cavalry. This happens multiple times:
This is noticeably different from how characters like Renpa fight cavalry on foot. For Renpa (a more traditional GG warrior) and Houken (the martial god), fighting cavalry involved simply fighting them head on:
But for the Lord of the Dumplings,
It is no exaggeration to say that Gakuhaku Kou is the single fastest and most skilled foot-warrior we’ve ever seen, minus potentially priestess dance Kyoukai/Kyourei and Houken himself.
So, Gakuhaku Kou is stupidly fast even with his mace, but this gigantic pastry isn’t even primarily a mace weilder apparently.
Which brings us to our next topic:
IV: Call An Ambulance, But Not For Me
So Shin switches to the Sword to eliminate the speed disadvantages he had faced with the Glaive, and at first Gakuhaku Kou actually keeps up with him for a bit:
But after taking a very minor injury:
We get Gakuhaku Kou switching to what he describes as the weapon that best compliments his martial arts:
And Gakuhaku Kou proceeds to perform a variety of straight up silly feats of strength and skill. Firstly, Gakuhaku Kou keeps Shin on the back foot in a contest of swordsmanship:
Still dodging Shin’s sword strikes and breaking Shin’s guard:
Now this doesn’t last forever as Shin is able to recall his old experience with the sword, and is able to bring the fight back to an even-pace:
But then what happens?
Now sure, Dumpling doubters will point out how Shin actually got attacked by Gakuhaku Kou’s own cavalry in between sparring, but the Hi Shin Unit’s strong-ass infantry also attacked Gakuhaku Kou, who retaliated overwhelmingly:
And as the fight continues, Gakuhaku Kou continues to prove himself overwhelmingly superior to Shin:
The only way Shin was able to defeat this guy, was obviously through an ingenious display of weapon-switching after immobilizing him:
But otherwise, Shin was completely inferior to Gakuhaku Kou as a warrior. I don’t subscribe to the “Shin won by fighting smart, therefore he is stronger” line of reasoning. Shin is weaker than Gakuhaku Kou in just about every way, but won the fight by fighting intelligence. That makes the most sense for me.
V: Olympic Gold
Doubters: “Gakuhaku Kou is not the strongest in Kingdom, X character has more hype placed upon them”
Me:
So, let us once again briefly recount Dumpling Sama’s versatility and strength:
1. Dumpling Sama has brute power on par with Moubu and Kanmei as his strength can easily decimate huge numbers of troops and horses at once
2. He has Vanishing Martial Arts on par with Kyoukai and Kyourei if not superior that he can use in conjunction with both the mace and the sword
3. He has extreme skill and speed with the sword that he can combine with hand to hand combat capable of shattering armor
4. Even if he is not confirmed to have Weight, he brutally overwhelmed Shin using every single fighting style, showing that his brute power is just so high that this really doesn’t seem to be an issue.
And much like the shape of Gakuhaku Kou’s hair stylings, let us bring this post perfect circle:
Thank you all for reading :)
@Owl Ki
@MarineHQ62
@RiShin
@Xione
@TheKnightOfTheSea
@Blackbeard
@Dark Admiral
@KageFumi
@RayanOO
@Monet
@Jailer
@mad monk
@Guiding_Thunder
@Arara
@Hiragaro
@FaradaySloth
@Dragomir
@Bepo
@Desolate Smaug
@NidaiKitetsu
@Admiral Mou Bu
Etc etc etc
Bihei is indirectly responsible for killing the strongest man/dumpling in China.
