Powers & Abilities AdCoC Lightning is Red, KoH Lightning is Black..

[Peroroncino]

Kuma will arrive soon to save his daughter dw

 

[Rootbeer]

Luffy has used nameless and basic attacks with AdvCoC. Even Kaido has done it, who are the characters we know best. Therefore Zoro can also use it with unnamed or basic attacks or whatever he wants. As happens with the CoA.

At no time has it been said that you have to use special attacks to use AdvCoC, it is something you have invented, for a change.

I guess i'm not explaning my point properly cause you're missing it..

Zoro literally performed the same attack than on Fishman Island with a powered up version of Sandai with KoH.. What's the point..
The most non sensical use of AdCoC ever..

Again how can a base flying slash be AdCoC.. At least Dragon Damnation is consistent.. KoH Black Lightning transferred into a Black Lightning speudo '' AdCoC '' slash..

And the explanation refers to that specific attack. Without that attack, there is no Luffy's AdvCoC, nor explanation. It is very simple. That attack is the starting point.

The Explanation and the Demonstration are in chapter 1010 and that is what is the most important.. AdCoC as a power in the story..
Like Stop..

 

[Galahad]

I guess i'm not explaning my point properly cause you're missing it..

Zoro literally performed the same attack than on Fishman Island with a powered up version of Sandai with KoH.. What's the point..
The most non sensical use of AdCoC ever..

Again how can a base flying slash be AdCoC.. At least Dragon Damnation is consistent.. KoH Black Lightning transferred into a Black Lightning speudo '' AdCoC '' slash.

The one who still doesn't understand is you. You focus so much on Zoro, that you are not able to see beyond.

- Both Luffy and Kaido have literally used AdvCoC with random attacks, because they have no name. And even Luffy we have seen him use AdvCoC without the Gear, you can tell me if that is not base mode.
- If you analyze Zoro a little more, we have practically not seen new attacks, post time skip we have not seen new attacks, I think only 3 + the Homurasaki which is a copy of Kinemon, are the same attacks enhanced with CoA. And the KOH are the same attacks, with AdvCoC. That's why it's called King of Hell. Haki alone is useless, it combines and can be combined with any attack.
- At that moment, Zoro uses the Yakkodori because they only have one sword available, because he has little time to react and because he needed a flying attack since he couldn't get close to King due to the force of the impact. Basically it is the same as the Kamusari, only thicker.

So yes, the AdvCoC can be combined with any attack, be it random or flying, it doesn't matter.

The Explanation and the Demonstration are in chapter 1010 and that is what is the most important.. AdCoC as a power in the story..
Like Stop.

Let's see, that attack is the presentation of the AdvCoC. If he hits Luffy it's because he doesn't have the ability to hit without touching. If not, it would be Oda's shit.

But the problem is not just that attack, it is that we have not seen Kaido hit without touching. Every time Kaido lands a hit, he hits his target. Which is normal because Kaido doesn't have AdvCoA. Luffy on the other hand, sometimes hits and sometimes doesn't, because he has AdvCoA but he doesn't use it all the time.

The no-touch effect only occurs when two attacks are faced with AdvCoC or when someone has AdvCoA.

That explanation fits perfectly with the manga without resorting to excuses for Oda's mistakes or moments that are not important. That they are terrible arguments and that they are used as a last resort.

I am giving you a simple explanation, easy for anyone to understand, that explains each and every one of the panels of the manga and yet, you are still not convinced.

Don't you realize that all that color stuff is ridiculous since in the manga it's indistinguishable? Don't you realize that converging and diverging is tremendously complicated and difficult to understand with the naked eye?

This is a shonen, one where the fights are not the most important thing, things have to be much simpler. Like the explanation I'm giving you.

That's why my explanation is mostly accepted while yours is shared by four cats.

 

[Rootbeer]

The one who still doesn't understand is you. You focus so much on Zoro, that you are not able to see beyond.

- Both Luffy and Kaido have literally used AdvCoC with random attacks, because they have no name. And even Luffy we have seen him use AdvCoC without the Gear, you can tell me if that is not base mode.
- If you analyze Zoro a little more, we have practically not seen new attacks, post time skip we have not seen new attacks, I think only 3 + the Homurasaki which is a copy of Kinemon, are the same attacks enhanced with CoA. And the KOH are the same attacks, with AdvCoC. That's why it's called King of Hell. Haki alone is useless, it combines and can be combined with any attack.
- At that moment, Zoro uses the Yakkodori because they only have one sword available, because he has little time to react and because he needed a flying attack since he couldn't get close to King due to the force of the impact. Basically it is the same as the Kamusari, only thicker.

So yes, the AdvCoC can be combined with any attack, be it random or flying, it doesn't matter.

Actually if Bird Dance and KoH Onigiri were AdCoC, it would have been Black Lightning like Dragon Damnation..

And Black Lightning being thrown out like that is not AdCoC.. AdCoC an invisible armor similar to CoA level 2.. It's not magicly projected as Lightning ray beam.. KoH is CoA Black Lightning.. Red Lightning is AdCoC.. You can address the title of the thread if you want..

Let's see, that attack is the presentation of the AdvCoC. If he hits Luffy it's because he doesn't have the ability to hit without touching. If not, it would be Oda's shit.

But the problem is not just that attack, it is that we have not seen Kaido hit without touching. Every time Kaido lands a hit, he hits his target. Which is normal because Kaido doesn't have AdvCoA. Luffy on the other hand, sometimes hits and sometimes doesn't, because he has AdvCoA but he doesn't use it all the time.

The no-touch effect only occurs when two attacks are faced with AdvCoC or when someone has AdvCoA.

That explanation fits perfectly with the manga without resorting to excuses for Oda's mistakes or moments that are not important. That they are terrible arguments and that they are used as a last resort.

I am giving you a simple explanation, easy for anyone to understand, that explains each and every one of the panels of the manga and yet, you are still not convinced.

Don't you realize that all that color stuff is ridiculous since in the manga it's indistinguishable? Don't you realize that converging and diverging is tremendously complicated and difficult to understand with the naked eye?

This is a shonen, one where the fights are not the most important thing, things have to be much simpler. Like the explanation I'm giving you.

That's why my explanation is mostly accepted while yours is shared by four cats.

Lets make it simple.. The most important moment narratively for '' AdCoC as a Power '' is chapter 1010.. That's it..
Chapter 1009 Ragnaraku attack is irrelevant because when Luffy felt the blow it remembered him for CoA level 2 no touching layer.. So Luffy himself is informing the readers that Ragnaraku didn't touch..

 

[Galahad]

Actually if Bird Dance and KoH Onigiri were AdCoC, it would have been Black Lightning like Dragon Damnation..

You are inventing more and more things and that is also a sign that you are improvising as you go. No, AdvCoC attacks do not have to have Black Lightning. We haven't seen them in Kaido, Luffy, Yamato, Roger or Shanks...

It was difficult for me to understand, but now that I have reviewed the fight, the Hiryuu Jigoku is not a flying attack, that Black Lighting is Zoro and the trails of his swords. It is Zoro who moves and appears behind King. They are the trails of the swords that Zoro leaves behind him.

And Black Lightning being thrown out like that is not AdCoC.. AdCoC an invisible armor similar to CoA level 2.. It's not magicly projected as Lightning ray beam.. KoH is CoA Black Lightning.. Red Lightning is AdCoC.. You can address the title of the thread if you want..

There are so many things wrong.

- The AdvCoA is not an invisible armor, that is the normal CoA. It is the definition that Rayleigh gives us. And if the armor is strong enough, it can be used for attack. And yes, the AdvCoC is basically the same as the CoA that's why Zoro is using it unconsciously. Zoro is releasing all of his Haki and using it to coat his swords to appease Enma, only without realizing it, he is also coating his swords with his CoC.

- The black and white manga is the original material and is the first to come out. In fact, almost two years have passed and chapter 1035 has not yet been released in color. We cannot depend on the color manga to know if AdvCoC was used or not. The explanations must be sought in the original material and in a simple way.

And the simplest explanation is:

- Black coating = CoA
- Hit without touching = AdvCoA
- Foaming at the mouth = CoC
- Black contrails = AdvCoC

With these four concepts easily distinguishable by anyone with eyes, without the need for three majors and seven maters, 90% of the situations can be explained.

There are two critical points that would be the CoO, since we do not know when it is being used unless they tell us, and the basic transparent CoA, which unless it is against a Lodge they have to tell us as well.

But the rest is perfectly explainable and easily understood using the original material.

Lets make it simple.. The most important moment narratively for '' AdCoC as a Power '' is chapter 1010.. That's it..
Chapter 1009 Ragnaraku attack is irrelevant because when Luffy felt the blow it remembered him for CoA level 2 no touching layer.. So Luffy himself is informing the readers that Ragnaraku didn't touch..

No, and no matter how many times you repeat it, it won't be truer. The attack in chapter 1009 and the explanation in chapter 1010 are the same, they are inseparable. Without the previous attack, we would not have the explanations and Luffy would not have understood the AdvCoC. Without the explanations, we didn't know what the hell that power was. It is the same fact.

Also, I repeat again, you conveniently forget it. We haven't seen a single Kaido attack that hits without touching when he just attacks the. Because he does not have AdvCoA and AdvCoC does not have such capacity.

 

[Rootbeer]

that Black Lighting is Zoro and the trails of his sword

- The AdvCoA is not an invisible armor, that is the normal CoA. It is the definition that Rayleigh gives us. And if the armor is strong enough, it can be used for attack. And yes, the AdvCoC is basically the same as the CoA that's why Zoro is using it unconsciously. Zoro is releasing all of his Haki and using it to coat his swords to appease Enma, only without realizing it, he is also coating his swords with his CoC.

- The black and white manga is the original material and is the first to come out. In fact, almost two years have passed and chapter 1035 has not yet been released in color. We cannot depend on the color manga to know if AdvCoC was used or not. The explanations must be sought in the original material and in a simple way.

And the simplest explanation is:

- Black coating = CoA
- Hit without touching = AdvCoA
- Foaming at the mouth = CoC
- Black contrails = AdvCoC

With these four concepts easily distinguishable by anyone with eyes, without the need for three majors and seven maters, 90% of the situations can be explained.

There are two critical points that would be the CoO, since we do not know when it is being used unless they tell us, and the basic transparent CoA, which unless it is against a Lodge they have to tell us as well.

But the rest is perfectly explainable and easily understood using the original material.

Normal CoA is in the fist, CoA level 2 is an invisible layer around the fist..
Zoro is not using AdCoC because its not infused in the blade and that's how it must be for the WSS path..

What kind of non sense is that.. 2 times already KoH has been shown as Black Lightning in color.. And 2 times already AdCoC has been shown as Red Lightning.. Stop fooling yourself..

AdCoA without touching is a Defensive capability.. AdCoC without touching is an offensive capability..
No internal damage vs internal Damage..
And CoA level 3 is touching with internal damage..

The Black lightning trails are AdCoA since they are leaking from the Blade which are hardened CoA..

No, and no matter how many times you repeat it, it won't be truer. The attack in chapter 1009 and the explanation in chapter 1010 are the same, they are inseparable. Without the previous attack, we would not have the explanations and Luffy would not have understood the AdvCoC. Without the explanations, we didn't know what the hell that power was. It is the same fact.

You can't be serious.. The most important for AdCoC must be it's reveal Chapter..

Also, I repeat again, you conveniently forget it. We haven't seen a single Kaido attack that hits without touching when he just attacks the. Because he does not have AdvCoA and AdvCoC does not have such capacity.

What?.. We see many times Kaido not touching using AdCoC..

 

[Galahad]

Unlike you, when I say something, it's because I can easily prove it with the manga. Although I guess I was too optimistic assuming you would understand it on your own.

1- Zoro and King come face to face. Here we can see that Zoro is in front of King's Dragon head, which is quite long and then King.

2- In this open plane, we cannot see Zoro anywhere, because he is in front of the Black Lighting

3- Here you can see how what is in front is the Dragon's head, then King and then Zoro, who looks very small because he is further away.

4- Here you can see that Zoro and King are back to back.

5- Finally, here you can see that Zoro is furthest from the Island, King is in the middle and finally there is the Dragon.

We can clearly see how the positions were reversed. We start with Zoro face to face with King and end with Zoro and King back to back. That Black Lightning is Zoro's movement and the trails left behind by his swords.

It's simpler than this, I can't tell you.

Normal CoA is in the fist, CoA level 2 is an invisible layer around the fist..
Zoro is not using AdCoC because its not infused in the blade and that's how it must be for the WSS path..

What kind of non sense is that.. 2 times already KoH has been shown as Black Lightning in color.. And 2 times already AdCoC has been shown as Red Lightning.. Stop fooling yourself..

AdCoA without touching is a Defensive capability.. AdCoC without touching is an offensive capability..
No internal damage vs internal Damage..
And CoA level 3 is touching with internal damage.

Rayleight: The Busoshoku Haki. This power is like an invisible armor... If the armor is strong enough it can be used to attack... The Busoshoku Haki is the key to counterattacking those who have eaten the devil fruit.

Literally Rayleigh defines the CoA as armor. AdvCoA consists of projecting Haki outside the body, that is what allows you to hit without touching and the next level is projecting it inside your target, generating internal damage.

And it's literally called Armor Haki

That "armor" that we see when Hyogoro explains the AdvCoA to Luffy is so that we understand it, then we never see it again.

The Black lightning trails are AdCoA since they are leaking from the Blade which are hardened CoA.

We know that Oden, the Hyogoro Scabbards, and Luffy have AdvCoA. Show me those black contrails before Luffy understood AdvCoc.

AdvCoA users don't have trails, only Zoro...

You can't be serious.. The most important for AdCoC must be it's reveal Chapter.

It is precisely that AdvCoC is presented in chapter 1009 and explained in chapter 1010. I tell you again, they are the same moment divided into two. Like the One Piece manga, it is divided into +1000 chapters but it is still the same work.

What?.. We see many times Kaido not touching using AdCoC..

No, there is not a single image of Kaido attacking alone, without hitting. He always hits his target when he is not facing another attack with AdvCoC and I have given you the examples. On the other hand, we have examples of Hyogoro and Luffy attacking without hitting before learning AdvCoC. Why they use AdvCoA.

 

[Peroroncino]

Unlike you, when I say something, it's because I can easily prove it with the manga. Although I guess I was too optimistic assuming you would understand it on your own.

1- Zoro and King come face to face. Here we can see that Zoro is in front of King's Dragon head, which is quite long and then King.

2- In this open plane, we cannot see Zoro anywhere, because he is in front of the Black Lighting

3- Here you can see how what is in front is the Dragon's head, then King and then Zoro, who looks very small because he is further away.

4- Here you can see that Zoro and King are back to back.

5- Finally, here you can see that Zoro is furthest from the Island, King is in the middle and finally there is the Dragon.

We can clearly see how the positions were reversed. We start with Zoro face to face with King and end with Zoro and King back to back. That Black Lightning is Zoro's movement and the trails left behind by his swords.

It's simpler than this, I can't tell you.



Rayleight: The Busoshoku Haki. This power is like an invisible armor... If the armor is strong enough it can be used to attack... The Busoshoku Haki is the key to counterattacking those who have eaten the devil fruit.

Literally Rayleigh defines the CoA as armor. AdvCoA consists of projecting Haki outside the body, that is what allows you to hit without touching and the next level is projecting it inside your target, generating internal damage.

And it's literally called Armor Haki

That "armor" that we see when Hyogoro explains the AdvCoA to Luffy is so that we understand it, then we never see it again.



We know that Oden, the Hyogoro Scabbards, and Luffy have AdvCoA. Show me those black contrails before Luffy understood AdvCoc.

AdvCoA users don't have trails, only Zoro...



It is precisely that AdvCoC is presented in chapter 1009 and explained in chapter 1010. I tell you again, they are the same moment divided into two. Like the One Piece manga, it is divided into +1000 chapters but it is still the same work.



No, there is not a single image of Kaido attacking alone, without hitting. He always hits his target when he is not facing another attack with AdvCoC and I have given you the examples. On the other hand, we have examples of Hyogoro and Luffy attacking without hitting before learning AdvCoC. Why they use AdvCoA.

oh yeah i forgot he thinks dragon damnation is a flying slash like the pound ho attacks.
He made a thread on it and everyone laughed at how dumb he is, it was fun, he forgot zoro was behind king after the attack so he had to make shit up to explain that and he gave zoro teleportation lmao

 

[BornInAbyss]

No touching is close range, Flying Slash is long range..

So garps galaxy impact was close range? 🤡

 

[Galahad]

oh yeah i forgot he thinks dragon damnation is a flying slash like the pound ho attacks.
He made a thread on it and everyone laughed at how dumb he is, it was fun, he forgot zoro was behind king after the attack so he had to make shit up to explain that and he gave zoro teleportation lmao

I missed that topic. I also thought it was a flying attack until I reviewed it.

Being wrong is not the problem, the problem is not admitting it. And even if I explain it bullet by bullet, I doubt @Rootbeer will admit his mistake.

 

[Peroroncino]

I missed that topic. I also thought it was a flying attack until I reviewed it.

Being wrong is not the problem, the problem is not admitting it. And even if I explain it bullet by bullet, I doubt @Rootbeer will admit his mistake.

he will just improvise and make shit up to suit his agenda as always, you're arguing with someone whose comprehension is worse than a child's who just learned how to read

 

[Rootbeer]

5- Finally, here you can see that Zoro is furthest from the Island, King is in the middle and finally there is the Dragon.

We can clearly see how the positions were reversed. We start with Zoro face to face with King and end with Zoro and King back to back. That Black Lightning is Zoro's movement and the trails left behind by his swords.

It's simpler than this, I can't tell you.

Actually if Zoro was in front of those huge Black Lightning trails the whole time that would be AdCoC..

But they are a flying Black Lightning Haki slash.. 103 mercies are a reference to 108 pound pheonix.. Sending 3 distinct flying slashes in the air..

Rayleight: The Busoshoku Haki. This power is like an invisible armor... If the armor is strong enough it can be used to attack... The Busoshoku Haki is the key to counterattacking those who have eaten the devil fruit.

Literally Rayleigh defines the CoA as armor. AdvCoA consists of projecting Haki outside the body, that is what allows you to hit without touching and the next level is projecting it inside your target, generating internal damage.

And it's literally called Armor Haki

That "armor" that we see when Hyogoro explains the AdvCoA to Luffy is so that we understand it, then we never see it again.

Rayleigh explained and showcased CoA level 2, not base CoA..

We know that Oden, the Hyogoro Scabbards, and Luffy have AdvCoA. Show me those black contrails before Luffy understood AdvCoc.

AdvCoA users don't have trails, only Zoro...

Show me Haki trails before timeskip..

It is precisely that AdvCoC is presented in chapter 1009 and explained in chapter 1010. I tell you again, they are the same moment divided into two. Like the One Piece manga, it is divided into +1000 chapters but it is still the same work.

It's not.. It's presented and explained all in chapter 1010..

No, there is not a single image of Kaido attacking alone, without hitting. He always hits his target when he is not facing another attack with AdvCoC and I have given you the examples. On the other hand, we have examples of Hyogoro and Luffy attacking without hitting before learning AdvCoC. Why they use AdvCoA.

Why does that matter if he's not touching alone?.. He's not touching with Luffy so many times..

So garps galaxy impact was close range? 🤡

It's combination of AdCoC and AdCoA.. So yeah AdCoC alone is close range so far..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

I missed that topic. I also thought it was a flying attack until I reviewed it.

Being wrong is not the problem, the problem is not admitting it. And even if I explain it bullet by bullet, I doubt @Rootbeer will admit his mistake.

Stop trying. You are not the 1st one who went on full details the exact same way that you did.

His thick headed won't try to acknowledge any evidence that support Zoro having AdvCoC he will always ignore and present you a new twisted way to distract you

I even copied my reply once 3 times in a row and every single one he gave a new invented way to change the subject.

His latest invention is that Oden has no AdvCoC and what he used is

"CoO coated mixed AdvCoA Haki"




You either troll him like i do or leave it. Wait for the colored chapters beyond 1004.

 

[Peroroncino]

I even copied my reply once 3 times in a row and every single one he gave a new invented way to change the subject.

LMFAO

 

[Galahad]

Actually if Zoro was in front of those huge Black Lightning trails the whole time that would be AdCoC..

But they are a flying Black Lightning Haki slash.. 103 mercies are a reference to 108 pound pheonix.. Sending 3 distinct flying slashes in the air..

You are desperate. I explain things to you panel by panel, however you simply ignore them and impose your opinion. That's the problem, it's not your opinion as such, it's the fact that you ignore the parts that don't interest you or end up looking for ridiculous explanations.

You can say no, but it is clear that Zoro and King start face to face and end back to back. There is a change of position. And I have given you the images of the black and white manga drawn by Oda.

Additionally, the Pound Ho are multiples of 36. 36 when using one sword, 72 when using two swords and 108 when using all three swords. It has no relation to 103 emotions.

That's the problem with improvising things, that every time you fall into new inconsistencies.

Rayleigh explained and showcased CoA level 2, not base CoA.

Yes of course, he is explaining AdvCoA to Luffy who didn't know how to use it until Wano...

Armor Haki. The name itself tells you.

Show me Haki trails before timeskip.

Another stupidity. Show me your lack of contact before the Time Skip.

The contrails appeared when they started talking about AdvCoC, just when Luffy learned AdvCoC, he started having contrails. He didn't have them when he used AdvCoA.

We have literally never seen an AdvCoA user have contrails. Here the one who has to prove that the stelae are AdvCoA is you. But of course, you know you can't. You simply refuse to accept your mistake.

It's not.. It's presented and explained all in chapter 1010.

If the 1009 attack did not exist, would there be any explanation? Yes or no.

Why does that matter if he's not touching alone?.. He's not touching with Luffy so many times.

According to you, the AdvCoC has the ability to hit without touching individually. Prove it. Show me Kaido, we know he doesn't have AdvCoA hitting without hitting individually.

You have to prove your point. I can give you an example of two AvCoC attacks without touching each other. I can give you examples of Luffy hitting without touching before learning AdvCoA. I can give you examples of attacks with AdvCoC hitting its target.

I can give you examples of each and every one of my opinions. If you can't, then clearly your opinion is wrong, because you can't prove it.

Stop trying. You are not the 1st one who went on full details the exact same way that you did.

His thick headed won't try to acknowledge any evidence that support Zoro having AdvCoC he will always ignore and present you a new twisted way to distract you

I even copied my reply once 3 times in a row and every single one he gave a new invented way to change the subject.

His latest invention is that Oden has no AdvCoC and what he used is

"CoO coated mixed AdvCoA Haki"




You either troll him like i do or leave it. Wait for the colored chapters beyond 1004.

You're absolutely right, I don't even know why I'm trying.

 

[Rootbeer]

You are desperate. I explain things to you panel by panel, however you simply ignore them and impose your opinion. That's the problem, it's not your opinion as such, it's the fact that you ignore the parts that don't interest you or end up looking for ridiculous explanations.

You can say no, but it is clear that Zoro and King start face to face and end back to back. There is a change of position. And I have given you the images of the black and white manga drawn by Oda.

Additionally, the Pound Ho are multiples of 36. 36 when using one sword, 72 when using two swords and 108 when using all three swords. It has no relation to 103 emotions.

That's the problem with improvising things, that every time you fall into new inconsistencies.

You didn't dig deep enough.. King's body made half a rotation to make it look like Zoro is behind him when he's in fact in front of King and never reached him..

You're missing another point, there was an emphasis on '' KoH '' Onigiri when the attack was performed and when Dragon Damnation the Black doughts were emphasised on the '' Three Sword Dragon '' , not Three Swordstyle anymore.. All Zoro's three Blades were used and Wado Ichimonji made Zoro do a short teleportation leap..

It's not what it seems with Zoro vs King final showdown, i encourage you to take another look at it..

Zoro named attacks associated with Numbers are usually flying slash.. That's the connection..

Yes of course, he is explaining AdvCoA to Luffy who didn't know how to use it until Wano...

Armor Haki. The name itself tells you.

Luffy recall Sandersonia and Sentomaru doing what really did to him.. Just take it as an inconsistency for Oda..

There's different names for each CoA step.. Busoshoku, Busoshoku Koka, Busoshoku Bougyo..

The contrails appeared when they started talking about AdvCoC, just when Luffy learned AdvCoC, he started having contrails. He didn't have them when he used AdvCoA.

We have literally never seen an AdvCoA user have contrails. Here the one who has to prove that the stelae are AdvCoA is you. But of course, you know you can't. You simply refuse to accept your mistake.

The next level of CoA Swordsmanship wasn't explained yet, what do you expect..

If Zoro was using AdCoC for the first time like Luffy, there would have been a fodder or King saying '' he's not even touching! ''..

If the 1009 attack did not exist, would there be any explanation? Yes or no.

I'm not saying 1009 is not important.. The most important moment bar none of AdCoC is it's chapter Reveal..

According to you, the AdvCoC has the ability to hit without touching individually. Prove it. Show me Kaido, we know he doesn't have AdvCoA hitting without hitting individually.

You have to prove your point. I can give you an example of two AvCoC attacks without touching each other. I can give you examples of Luffy hitting without touching before learning AdvCoA. I can give you examples of attacks with AdvCoC hitting its target.

I can give you examples of each and every one of my opinions. If you can't, then clearly your opinion is wrong, because you can't prove it.

Here with the pure Haki lightning divide we can clearly see Kaido use AdCoC.. It's similar to the clash of Roger and Whitebeard

 

[Galahad]

You didn't dig deep enough.. King's body made half a rotation to make it look like Zoro is behind him when he's in fact in front of King and never reached him.

You're missing another point, there was an emphasis on '' KoH '' Onigiri when the attack was performed and when Dragon Damnation the Black doughts were emphasised on the '' Three Sword Dragon '' , not Three Swordstyle anymore.. All Zoro's three Blades were used and Wado Ichimonji made Zoro do a short teleportation leap..

It's not what it seems with Zoro vs King final showdown, i encourage you to take another look at it..

Zoro named attacks associated with Numbers are usually flying slash.. That's the connection.

1- Zoro and King come face to face. Here we can see that Zoro is in front of King's Dragon head, which is quite long and then King.

2- In this open plane, we cannot see Zoro anywhere, because he is in front of the Black Lighting

3- Here you can see how what is in front is the Dragon's head, then King and then Zoro, who looks very small because he is further away.

4- Here you can see that Zoro and King are back to back.

5- Finally, here you can see that Zoro is furthest from the Island, King is in the middle and finally there is the Dragon.

We can clearly see how the positions were reversed. We start with Zoro face to face with King and end with Zoro and King back to back. That Black Lightning is Zoro's movement and the trails left behind by his swords.

Two things must be taken into account:

1- The position of Zoro and King. They start face to face and end back to back. If King turned 180 degrees like you say, then Zoro would have ended up seeing King's back. Which doesn't match the manga.

2- The position of the three participating elements. We start with Zoro, Dragon and King. We end with Dragon, King and Zoro.

Obviously Zoro has changed his position, there is no doubt.

Also, Zoro's pound ho are multiples of 36, they are not simply numbers. They are multiples of 36 because they refer to the largest cannon mounted on a sailing ship. That's why the attacks translate as 36/72/108 pound cannon as you add swords.

And when he makes a combined attack with Luffy, he asks what 108 x 2 is, to which Zoro answers 216. As Luffy considers it very complicated, they change it to a 300-pound cannon. And later when Zoro joins the 600-pound cannon.

So 103 is a simple number. It has nothing to do with Zoro's flying attacks.

Luffy recall Sandersonia and Sentomaru doing what really did to him.. Just take it as an inconsistency for Oda..

There's different names for each CoA step.. Busoshoku, Busoshoku Koka, Busoshoku Bougyo.

No, it is not an inconsistency. simply Boa Sandersonia and Sentomaru have AdvCoA. Which is not so strange, since Sandersonia comes from an Island specialized in CoA and Sentomaru has the best defense...

The Oda error resource can only be used when it is the last option. In the meantime, the mistakes are yours.

The next level of CoA Swordsmanship wasn't explained yet, what do you expect..

If Zoro was using AdCoC for the first time like Luffy, there would have been a fodder or King saying '' he's not even touching! ''.

No. Because the AdvCoC cannot hit without touching. I repeat that this is an AdvCoA skill. And I have also given you the examples:

At this moment, Luffy had no idea about the AdvCoC and yet he destroys the tree without touching it. What was Luffy training? Exactly, AdvCoA.

I'm not saying 1009 is not important.. The most important moment bar none of AdCoC is it's chapter Reveal..

And without chapter 1009 would the AdvCoC have been revealed? Yes or No

Here with the pure Haki lightning divide we can clearly see Kaido use AdCoC.. It's similar to the clash of Roger and Whitebeard

But that's two attacks with AdvCoC colliding. I have no problem admitting that two attacks with AdvCoC will not touch each other. The problem is that King does not have AdvCoC, therefore Zoro cannot replicate it.

Meanwhile, I insist that we have never seen Kaido hit without touching individually. We haven't seen it in Zoro either. Something that we did see in Luffy before even knowing about the AdvCoC.

What part of two attacks don't you understand?

Now I want you to stop and think a little about my explanations and yours. I am analyzing the manga panel by panel and giving you the etymology behind Zoro's attacks. Meanwhile, you just say random things without any basis.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

1- Zoro and King come face to face. Here we can see that Zoro is in front of King's Dragon head, which is quite long and then King.

2- In this open plane, we cannot see Zoro anywhere, because he is in front of the Black Lighting

3- Here you can see how what is in front is the Dragon's head, then King and then Zoro, who looks very small because he is further away.

4- Here you can see that Zoro and King are back to back.

5- Finally, here you can see that Zoro is furthest from the Island, King is in the middle and finally there is the Dragon.

We can clearly see how the positions were reversed. We start with Zoro face to face with King and end with Zoro and King back to back. That Black Lightning is Zoro's movement and the trails left behind by his swords.

Two things must be taken into account:

1- The position of Zoro and King. They start face to face and end back to back. If King turned 180 degrees like you say, then Zoro would have ended up seeing King's back. Which doesn't match the manga.

2- The position of the three participating elements. We start with Zoro, Dragon and King. We end with Dragon, King and Zoro.

Obviously Zoro has changed his position, there is no doubt.

Also, Zoro's pound ho are multiples of 36, they are not simply numbers. They are multiples of 36 because they refer to the largest cannon mounted on a sailing ship. That's why the attacks translate as 36/72/108 pound cannon as you add swords.

And when he makes a combined attack with Luffy, he asks what 108 x 2 is, to which Zoro answers 216. As Luffy considers it very complicated, they change it to a 300-pound cannon. And later when Zoro joins the 600-pound cannon.

So 103 is a simple number. It has nothing to do with Zoro's flying attacks.




No, it is not an inconsistency. simply Boa Sandersonia and Sentomaru have AdvCoA. Which is not so strange, since Sandersonia comes from an Island specialized in CoA and Sentomaru has the best defense...

The Oda error resource can only be used when it is the last option. In the meantime, the mistakes are yours.



No. Because the AdvCoC cannot hit without touching. I repeat that this is an AdvCoA skill. And I have also given you the examples:

At this moment, Luffy had no idea about the AdvCoC and yet he destroys the tree without touching it. What was Luffy training? Exactly, AdvCoA.



And without chapter 1009 would the AdvCoC have been revealed? Yes or No



But that's two attacks with AdvCoC colliding. I have no problem admitting that two attacks with AdvCoC will not touch each other. The problem is that King does not have AdvCoC, therefore Zoro cannot replicate it.

Meanwhile, I insist that we have never seen Kaido hit without touching individually. We haven't seen it in Zoro either. Something that we did see in Luffy before even knowing about the AdvCoC.

What part of two attacks don't you understand?

Now I want you to stop and think a little about my explanations and yours. I am analyzing the manga panel by panel and giving you the etymology behind Zoro's attacks. Meanwhile, you just say random things without any basis.

If he keeps saying no touching then show him this and tell him Jinbei is AdvCoC user too

 

[Peroroncino]

Remember when he said Kujaku has a black blade?

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Remember when he said Kujaku has a black blade?

Or Hyoguoru not being a Swordsman cuz he taught Luffy Ryuo