General & Others Admiral Greenbull in Dressrosa Arc

Does Greenbull do a better or worse job than Fujitora?


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Gorosei Informer

#41
It would kinda be like sending Akainu at least funnily enough. Akainu is stuck getting extreme diffed by a desk and paperwork now unfortunately but GB can act in his stead, as he does enthusiastically ofc.
(Makes me think of Majima and Kiryu, SAKAZUKI-CHAAAAN!)

GB facing Sabo onscreen would have been great, unlike the blueballing of the Reverie and we know he has fireproof wood, hence not as much of as a an overwhelming disadvantage against Sabo as he should be. Assuming Sabo gets the Mera Mera anyway ofc.

Dressrosa would have been a more serious, grim arc in some ways with how brutal GB is and what he did to the Beast Pirates, Shinobu and Raizo too.

Given his Bull epithet and beliefs he would be Spanish due to it, Dressrosa would have been the PERFECT arc for him to appear and I could see him instantly stomping Pica in his giant form ofc.
With the coliseum and flower fields, green bit too even, Green Bull would have been in his element, literally too!

Fujitora should have appeared at Wano as a samurai and noble warrior himself. The Zatoichi inspiration too. He could gave stopped Onigashima falling, maybe he blinded himself due to seeing Odens execution and the state of Wano then and regardless of that, his interactions with the Scabbard would have been interesting.
I think Fujitora would have like Oden too potentially if he met him too.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#43
I guess it depends on what you consider a better or worse job lol, Fujitora’s work on Dressrosa was undoubtedly worse for the World Government as it ultimately resulted in the Shichibukai being eliminated, but better for the world as a whole.

So here’s how I see it:

Akainu initially sent Fujitora to Dressrosa just to observe, but Ryokugyu isn’t observing lol. Ryokugyu, eager to prove himself to Sakazuki, is capturing some pirates right off the bat. I’m honestly not sure how he would react to Doffy who was both a Celestial Dragon who Ryokugyu idolizes, while also a pirate whom Ryokugyu should have no patience for. I’ll assume that he would still consider Doffy a “god” because giving up your Noble lineage doesn’t remove your “divinity”.

So Ryokugyu doesn’t kill Doffy, he’s instead going to try and kill the Straw Hats and Law. He might even succeed given the power gap back then. I wouldn’t be surprised if he also went after Burgess as soon as he heard word that Burgess was there.

And he’s also not playing any of this subtle stealth stuff like Fuji did, Ryokugyu is calling in warships and everything right off the bat.

I said it during 1054, but Fujitora was definitely the correct choice in Dressrosa, Ryokugyu isn’t the type of guy I would send into a civilian zone lol.
 
#44
Assuming the plot remained the same up until the toys were released and the bird cage happened, do you think Greenbull would remain aligned with Doffy or would he act similarly to Fujitora?
Gb is some of the worst kind of scum. He would have helped doflamingo and cp0 no questions asked. With the navy on doflamingos side things would have gone very differently although I think that would result in a much more serious sabo
 
S

Sasaki Kojirō

#45
Sabo with a newly acquired Df draws the fight with him just like he drew with Fujitora in DR...

It's a huge exaggeration to have all these Dr people against Aramaki and still be positive about his result against them, when he later failed against an inferior group in terms of strength (the Revolutionaries) and brought an insane L to the navy even though he was helped by another admiral, he also received an L in Wano for Oda intentionally having Yamato restrained and the scabbards injured and still exhausted.

He is not able to meet this challenge, few are strong for it.
 
#48
Obviously a better in the navys eyes. Fujitora literally held back the entire Arc due to his philosophie, he even said so himself.

He saw the government being the one to blame for all that happened there, so he as a representative of the wg didnt want to be the hero for the people. Thats why he never did something to attract attention, not even breaking the cage.


Greenbull couldnt care less. Doffy would be done in minutes, Sabo would be in chains, and the entire Straw Hat alliance would be in the bottom of the sea.
 
#49
W
The scenario is in Dressrosa arc, so this is Ryokugyu vs Dressrosa Sabo
What are you on about?


That's the problem of not reading
Was Aramaki lying when he said he wouldn't crack it as an Admiral with such obvious weakness such as fire? No
Aramaki is basically the goofy evil Admiral in a kid oriented manga, who preaches evil and what not.
Oda wanted to make character development for the cringe we call Momo and he did it at the expense of Aramaki's "character" not powerlevel. Momo was not actually doing shit before and Greenbull took it easy. After developing blast breath and firing it Aramaki is pissed off and goes for the kill, then enters Shanks

Just like fire can burn wood, wood + haki can fold any prone character including a fire user
Wood + haki? Did Sabo forget he knows haki too now?

GB isn't folding anyone, his only feat to date is suck life force out of fat shinobu and the already defeated King and Queen.

He managed to capture Weevil off screen too, I guess now I think about it.
 
G

Gorosei Informer

#50
I got the AI bot to hypothesise a scenario of Green Bull at Dressrosa:

As Admiral Green Bull appeared in Dressrosa with his forest Logia Devil Fruit, the atmosphere on the island immediately changed. The citizens were afraid of his power, and the pirates were on high alert. Green Bull, a man who glorified the Celestial Dragons and believed in the supremacy of Absolute Justice, wasted no time in making his presence known.

Sabo, having recently obtained the Mera Mera no Mi, found himself facing off against Green Bull. The two clashed, their powers testing each other's limits. However, despite his powerful nature-based abilities, Green Bull was unable to gain the upper hand against Sabo's mastery of fire.

Green Bull was as brash and stubborn as his name suggested, and his unwavering beliefs often put him at odds with others. He was conflicted about Doflamingo, who was a former Celestial Dragon. However, he believed that capturing Doflamingo and all the pirates on the island, including Burgess and Luffy, was his duty.

In the end, the battle between Green Bull and Sabo ended in a draw. Green Bull captured Doflamingo, but Luffy managed to escape him. Unfortunately, Sabo was not as lucky. When he tried to protect Luffy from Green Bull, the admiral killed him with a plant fist through the chest. It was a repeat of history, reminiscent of Akainu and Ace, and left Luffy with PTSD again.
The Mera Mera no Mi once again was left to respawn and find another owner. This time, it found its way to Luffy's secret honorary sister, Yamato. As for Burgess, he was captured and imprisoned, much to the delight of Green Bull and his staunch belief in Absolute Justice.

The events on Dressrosa would have undoubtedly played out differently if Admiral Fujitora had been present instead of Green Bull. However, with his nature-based powers and unwavering beliefs, Green Bull left a lasting impression on the island and its people.
 
#51
W


Wood + haki? Did Sabo forget he knows haki too now?

GB isn't folding anyone, his only feat to date is suck life force out of fat shinobu and the already defeated King and Queen.

He managed to capture Weevil off screen too, I guess now I think about it.
Sabo knows haki too yes, how does that cancel what I said lol
Maybe no selling Yamato's ACoC then casually continue the convo is a good feat don't you think
Weevil is as strong as Young Whitebeard as far as we know, the same Young Whitebeard mentioned as Rocks rhm
But yeah the same Sabo that Fujitora toyed with in Dressrosa gonna stop Ryokugyu
:risicheck:
 
#54
I got the AI bot to hypothesise a scenario of Green Bull at Dressrosa:

As Admiral Green Bull appeared in Dressrosa with his forest Logia Devil Fruit, the atmosphere on the island immediately changed. The citizens were afraid of his power, and the pirates were on high alert. Green Bull, a man who glorified the Celestial Dragons and believed in the supremacy of Absolute Justice, wasted no time in making his presence known.

Sabo, having recently obtained the Mera Mera no Mi, found himself facing off against Green Bull. The two clashed, their powers testing each other's limits. However, despite his powerful nature-based abilities, Green Bull was unable to gain the upper hand against Sabo's mastery of fire.

Green Bull was as brash and stubborn as his name suggested, and his unwavering beliefs often put him at odds with others. He was conflicted about Doflamingo, who was a former Celestial Dragon. However, he believed that capturing Doflamingo and all the pirates on the island, including Burgess and Luffy, was his duty.

In the end, the battle between Green Bull and Sabo ended in a draw. Green Bull captured Doflamingo, but Luffy managed to escape him. Unfortunately, Sabo was not as lucky. When he tried to protect Luffy from Green Bull, the admiral killed him with a plant fist through the chest. It was a repeat of history, reminiscent of Akainu and Ace, and left Luffy with PTSD again.
The Mera Mera no Mi once again was left to respawn and find another owner. This time, it found its way to Luffy's secret honorary sister, Yamato. As for Burgess, he was captured and imprisoned, much to the delight of Green Bull and his staunch belief in Absolute Justice.


The events on Dressrosa would have undoubtedly played out differently if Admiral Fujitora had been present instead of Green Bull. However, with his nature-based powers and unwavering beliefs, Green Bull left a lasting impression on the island and its people.
I did one for Kizaru lol.

Kizaru arrived to Dressrosa in search of the Straw Hat Pirates, who the World Government had received reports of being in the area. He was accompanied by Sentomaru and a fleet of Pacifista. He planned to capture the Straw Hat Pirates, and any other pirates in the area that posed a threat to the World Government.

Upon arriving, Kizaru and his forces were challenged by the Donquixote Family, who had taken over the island. Kizaru was determined totake down the organization and restore order to Dressrosa. He and his forces engaged in a fierce battle with the Donquixote Family, with Kizaru's powerful Logia powers proving to be too much for them.

Kizaru eventually managed to defeat the Donquixote Family, and restore peace to Dressrosa. He then returned to the sea, and continued his search for the Straw Hat Pirates. Unfortunately, he was unsuccessful in his mission, and the Straw Hat Pirates managed to evade capture.


And here is one for Akainu.

Akainu arrived on Dressrosa shortly after Luffy and his allies, and immediately made his presence known. He was determined to eliminate any threat to Marine Headquarters, and even declared that he would put down any rebellious activity on the island.

He quickly made his way to the palace, where he confronted Doflamingo and his crew. Akainu was not intimidated by Doflamingo's power and declared that he was here to end the Shichibukai's reign. He unleashed a powerful magma fist that destroyed much of the palace, and forced Doflamingo to retreat.

Akainu then proceeded to hunt down Doflamingo's allies. He used his Logia magma powers to incinerate any enemy he encountered, and even managed to defeat the powerful Donquixote Doflamingo.

In the end, Akainu's mission was successful. He managed to put a stop to Doflamingo's tyranny and brought peace to Dressrosa. However, his actions weren't without consequence. He had caused considerable destruction to the island, and his ruthless tactics had earned him the ire of many citizens. But despite the controversies, Akainu's actions were necessary, and his efforts were widely praised by the marines.
 
G

Gorosei Informer

#55
I did one for Kizaru lol.

Kizaru arrived to Dressrosa in search of the Straw Hat Pirates, who the World Government had received reports of being in the area. He was accompanied by Sentomaru and a fleet of Pacifista. He planned to capture the Straw Hat Pirates, and any other pirates in the area that posed a threat to the World Government.

Upon arriving, Kizaru and his forces were challenged by the Donquixote Family, who had taken over the island. Kizaru was determined totake down the organization and restore order to Dressrosa. He and his forces engaged in a fierce battle with the Donquixote Family, with Kizaru's powerful Logia powers proving to be too much for them.

Kizaru eventually managed to defeat the Donquixote Family, and restore peace to Dressrosa. He then returned to the sea, and continued his search for the Straw Hat Pirates. Unfortunately, he was unsuccessful in his mission, and the Straw Hat Pirates managed to evade capture.


And here is one for Akainu.

Akainu arrived on Dressrosa shortly after Luffy and his allies, and immediately made his presence known. He was determined to eliminate any threat to Marine Headquarters, and even declared that he would put down any rebellious activity on the island.

He quickly made his way to the palace, where he confronted Doflamingo and his crew. Akainu was not intimidated by Doflamingo's power and declared that he was here to end the Shichibukai's reign. He unleashed a powerful magma fist that destroyed much of the palace, and forced Doflamingo to retreat.

Akainu then proceeded to hunt down Doflamingo's allies. He used his Logia magma powers to incinerate any enemy he encountered, and even managed to defeat the powerful Donquixote Doflamingo.

In the end, Akainu's mission was successful. He managed to put a stop to Doflamingo's tyranny and brought peace to Dressrosa. However, his actions weren't without consequence. He had caused considerable destruction to the island, and his ruthless tactics had earned him the ire of many citizens. But despite the controversies, Akainu's actions were necessary, and his efforts were widely praised by the marines.
Lmao nice, the Akainu one is especially great.
Funnily enough in PW3, you can get Kizaru, Kuzan and Blackbeard at Dressrosa during its alternate storyline too IIRC!
 
#56
I've always said Doffy had everyone checkmated at Dressrosa, his biggest miscalculation was the Marines sending a cuck like Fujitora who was doing far more to hurt Doffy than to help him. It was out of his control at that point.

Greenbull packs everyone up, which is exactly why Greenbull was not the one introduced at Dressrosa. Oda would have to come up with some other way to keep Greenbull from not running everyone over.
You call Fuji a cuck I call him a chad, he saw the potential the SHs had in helping him accomplish his goal, which is to abolish the Warlord system. And his gamble paid off.
 
#57
  1. Meeting the Straw hats in the casino
He wont meet them, cause he will be too busy bullying those cheaters. SHs will just dip seeing how much danger he possess to their plans.
  1. Confronting Trafalgar Law on Greenbit
End of Law.
Sabo stalls him for bit then escapes with his life.
  1. The Birdcage & Doflamingo’s rampage
He ends Doflamingo sooner to stop his rampage. No need for Luffy G4.
  1. The Straw Hat Pirates and co. Escaping
only handful makes it out ALIVE.
 
#58
Sabo would be occupied with Ryokugyu for the rest of the arc

Cobsidering Ryokugyu sucks the CD's nuts he would be on Doffy's side. Pretty sure Oda would have worked a way around that with Sabo stalling him or sonething like that
 
#60
I did one for Kizaru lol.

Kizaru arrived to Dressrosa in search of the Straw Hat Pirates, who the World Government had received reports of being in the area. He was accompanied by Sentomaru and a fleet of Pacifista. He planned to capture the Straw Hat Pirates, and any other pirates in the area that posed a threat to the World Government.

Upon arriving, Kizaru and his forces were challenged by the Donquixote Family, who had taken over the island. Kizaru was determined totake down the organization and restore order to Dressrosa. He and his forces engaged in a fierce battle with the Donquixote Family, with Kizaru's powerful Logia powers proving to be too much for them.

Kizaru eventually managed to defeat the Donquixote Family, and restore peace to Dressrosa. He then returned to the sea, and continued his search for the Straw Hat Pirates. Unfortunately, he was unsuccessful in his mission, and the Straw Hat Pirates managed to evade capture.


And here is one for Akainu.

Akainu arrived on Dressrosa shortly after Luffy and his allies, and immediately made his presence known. He was determined to eliminate any threat to Marine Headquarters, and even declared that he would put down any rebellious activity on the island.

He quickly made his way to the palace, where he confronted Doflamingo and his crew. Akainu was not intimidated by Doflamingo's power and declared that he was here to end the Shichibukai's reign. He unleashed a powerful magma fist that destroyed much of the palace, and forced Doflamingo to retreat.

Akainu then proceeded to hunt down Doflamingo's allies. He used his Logia magma powers to incinerate any enemy he encountered, and even managed to defeat the powerful Donquixote Doflamingo.

In the end, Akainu's mission was successful. He managed to put a stop to Doflamingo's tyranny and brought peace to Dressrosa. However, his actions weren't without consequence. He had caused considerable destruction to the island, and his ruthless tactics had earned him the ire of many citizens. But despite the controversies, Akainu's actions were necessary, and his efforts were widely praised by the marines.
Wtf, Doflamingo is not him. Any Admiral would laugh at his strength and destroy Doffy easily. His crew would die of correteral damage.
 
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