Versus Battle Adult Gon vs Zoro

[Edogawa]

Show me panels please then. Dont go spouting bullshit without showing us proof.

Solos the universe my ass. Godspeed Killua would end him.

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@Edogawa if you mean the panel of young Netero breaking the sound barrier. Then that barely means anything. That was Netero nowhere near his prime.

Casual HxH characters can do this to bullets. And bullets travel faster than the speed of sound.

And Chimera Ant arc Netero was far above them in every stat.


Look at this amazing speed feat from Pitou




Now look at how she could barely even react to his attack.

His Attack Speed is insane. Mereum who is leagues above Pitou could barely even get through to him.

Those panels only show HxH characters are in the supersonic range to hypersonic (Mach 1 to Mach 10). Except lightning is hundreds of times faster than bullet, and One Piece low tiers operated in lightning speed since pre-time skip, and Current Zoro is massively faster than that.

HxH characters are slow as a slug. This is one of those times you have to accepted HxH is a fodder verse in power level, even if it's your favorite manga.

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Indeed mate what I was trying to explain.

One Piece characters are easily in the mach. Pre Lucci would solo the verse no question asked and so Zoro.

HxH is overrated mostly because the epic animation of 2011 and the series is also good, arguably better than One Piece. But this is power level comparison, not which series is better.

 

[Chrono]

Those panels only show HxH characters are in the supersonic range to hypersonic (Mach 1 to Mach 10). Except lightning is hundreds of times faster than bullet, and One Piece low tiers operated in lightning speed since pre-time skip, and Current Zoro is massively faster than that.

HxH characters are slow as a slug. This is one of those times you have to accepted HxH is a fodder verse in power level, even if it's your favorite manga.

How tf can you measure their speed. Are you a speedcam ??

You said that the strongest character had to train so hard to go at the speed of sound. Then I showed you characters a lot weaker reacting to the speed of sound with ease.

And I love how you dont even talk about the Pitou feat I broughr up. Why are you ignoring. Explain to me why Pitou has far better speed feat than any OP character ever. If theyre all slug speed. Why tf can Pitou travel that distance in less than a second. Explain please and dont run away and ignore.

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Here the calcs for that Pitou speed I Found online

https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/hiatus-x-hiatus.1119795/

Lmao Pitou feat is estimated to be mach 1427

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How fast would yall say Zoro is ?

 

[Edogawa]

How tf can you measure their speed. Are you a speedcam ??

By looking at the best speed feats shown in the series, and they're supersonic feats; the bullet-dodge feats you posted and Netero's 100-Type Guanyin Bodhisattva.

You said that the strongest character had to train so hard to go at the speed of sound. Then I showed you characters a lot weaker reacting to the speed of sound with ease.

Because it's flat-out stated he trained so hard to punch faster than sound in his prime. It's not something I made up. Also, weaker characters reacting to bullets doesn't mean shit. Lightning is 300x faster than sound, and burden of proof is on you to show Netero or Gon can reach those speeds.

And I love how you dont even talk about the Pitou feat I broughr up. Why are you ignoring. Explain to me why Pitou has far better speed feat than any OP character ever. If theyre all slug speed. Why tf can Pitou travel that distance in less than a second. Explain please and dont run away and ignore.

I can destroy that feat by the simple fact no distance figure (from where Pitou jumped to where she landed) and time figure (how long it takes her to reach) are given. So the speed you're wanking off is heavy speculation.

Lmao Pitou feat is estimated to be mach 1427

Fan calcs? Really?

 

[Chrono]

By looking at the best speed feats shown in the series, and they're supersonic feats; the bullet-dodge feats you posted and Netero's 100-Type Guanyin Bodhisattva.

And what are the best speed feats ? The bullet scenes are most definetely not the best. Good trying to argue Netero's praying is supersonic

Because it's flat-out stated he trained so hard to punch faster than sound in his prime. It's not something I made up. Also, weaker characters reacting to bullets doesn't mean shit. Lightning is 300x faster than sound, and burden of proof is on you to show Netero or Gon can reach those speeds.

Are you dumb. We have never even seen Netero's prime. That just shows how uneducated in HxH you are.

And if you actually knew things, bullets are faster than the speed of sound. You said the strongest character in his prime was the speed of sound. I just showed you characters that 100 times weaker that easily reacting to those speeds.

Another point, when you say OP characters are as fast as lightning...what are you implying ? That theyre movement speed is as fast lightning ? Their reacting speed ?? What is it.

- Sanji has shown to not be above speed of sound in movement speed, as a literal bullet shot by a fodder caught up to him and he got hurt.
- Another point is that characters like Zoro use ranged attacks instead of actually travelling there, because a ranged attack would be quicker than their actual speed.

In general Oda hasnt been shown to be consistent with speed at all. Trying to measure all OP characters to be at the very least lightning speed in movement/attack speed is retarded. Them being lightning speed in reaction speed however is true.

Are OP characters FTE, yup. But HxH characters are also FTE so I dont know how if that sums anything up.

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I can destroy that feat by the simple fact no distance figure (from where Pitou jumped to where she landed) and time figure (how long it takes her to reach) are given. So the speed you're wanking off is heavy speculation.

Go ahead try. The paneling and plot is enough.

- Kite senses Pitou whilst she is on the mountain
- Tells the boys to run away and whilst distracted Pitou already takes his arm off and is already where they are.

Could Kite have been able to dodge ? Potentially. His reaction couldve been good enough. However reaction speeds is always better than movement speed.

You can try your best to debunk it, but you cant say shit. You deep down its better than any OP feat. I dare you to say anything better.

Fan calcs? Really?

Erm excuse me but arent all you estimations fan calcs. As the authors havent actually told us the speeds they are going, so you try to do it yourself. Simmer down.

 

[Haoshoku]

I thought this was East Blue Zoro, but current Zoro? Dude might as well be the greatest threat ever if he was transported to the HxH verse.
Even though we do not know Adult Gon’s limit, he’s more than likely ~ Meruem. Zoro is out Adult Gon’s league simply put. Zoro is far faster, stronger and has far higher durability/endurance.

Zoro doesnt even have the speed to tag him.

False. He’s significantly faster, fodder like Kalifa were able to react to and dodge lightning as early as Enies Lobby. There were also lightning speed feats in Skypeia iirc. Point is, Current Zoro’s astronomically faster than any character in the verse, no one has been shown tagging lightning in the HxH verse.

 

[Chrono]

I Zoro is far faster, stronger and has far higher durability/endurance.

Child Gon has more endurance than him.....periodt.

Gon gets tranquillised with it being potent enough to knock him out for 10 days. However he gets up in mere seconds.

Whilst Zoro immediatetly faints against the Yet Cool brothers

Then Gon literally sacrificed his arms and was still prepared to carry on fighting. He literally lost a whole arm. He didnt faint or anything. Keep pure conciousness.

Whilst we have Zoro here fainting to a damn stab

Adult Gon is equal to pre rose Mereum in every stat, except probably durability. And Mereum had the endurance to take a nuke and still live

And those small things next to the blast are literal mountains.

False. He’s significantly faster, fodder like Kalifa were able to react to and dodge lightning as early as Enies Lobby. There were also lightning speed feats in Skypeia iirc. Point is, Current Zoro’s astronomically faster than any character in the verse, no one has been shown tagging lightning in the HxH verse.

Ive literally posted a speed feat of Pitou that is far above any OP character. And it correlates to Adult Gon.

Ok lets end this annoying argument. Ffs I see this everywhere. OP this and OP that. Why tf do yall assume OP is the strongest/fastest universe without even checking feats.

Lets estimate Pitou's speed. If yall didnt know Pitou is pure speedster.

The Chimera Ant Nest towers above the forest lile a gigantic mountain

Pitou being around the half of the Mountain, spotted Kite/Gon/Killua

She then proceeded to reach them in less than 1 second. Before any of them could even react or run away.

And this is in her base speed mind you.

So in her base speed she can reach travel this distance in less than a second. This far above any speed feat any OP character has shown.

Now Terispischro greatly enhances her base speed by a loooot. However Adult Gon literally dodges with pure ease.

So if you guys seriously think Zoro has a chance in hell of landing an attack on Adult Gon your gravely mistaken.

 

[Edogawa]

And what are the best speed feats ? The bullet scenes are most definetely not the best. Good trying to argue Netero's praying is supersonic

Buddy, majority of the scans you posted were bullet-timing feats. 99% of HxH's speed feats are bullet feats.

One Piece characters have lightning, meteor and lightspeed speed feats. HxH is a fodder here.

Are you dumb. We have never even seen Netero's prime. That just shows how uneducated in HxH you are.

We saw and read it took him years to reach sound speed, so you can keep crying on that.

And if you actually knew things, bullets are faster than the speed of sound. You said the strongest character in his prime was the speed of sound..

You do realize bullets are only a little bit faster than sound, and that's depending on the type of gun they're shot from.

Firearm muzzle velocities range from approximately 120 m/s (390 ft/s) to 370 m/s (1,200 ft/s) in black powder muskets,[3] to more than 1,200 m/s (3,900 ft/s)

Speed of sound is 343 m / s.

There is hardly any difference, so once again: the speed feats you're masturbating over are only supersonic (Mach 1 to Mach 5). Zoro has been Mach 300 (lightning speed) since CP9.

I just showed you characters that 100 times weaker that easily reacting to those speeds.

Proof Netero and Adult Gon are 100 times faster? I can do this all day, mate. When you start posting some actual quantifiable evidence instead of your fanboy moaning, we can properly debate.

Go ahead try. The paneling and plot is enough.

I already did, but maths seems to be your weakness. The fact you use a speed without any kind figures and basically relies on heavy ass assumptions solidifies it.

Erm excuse me but arent all you estimations fan calcs. As the authors havent actually told us the speeds they are going, so you try to do it yourself. Simmer down.

Oda actually did say Logias are natural to their elements, meaning Eneru and Kizaru are literally lightning and light speed respectively. Nami's clouds are created exactly how storm clouds are made scientifically speaking. So we know they move at those speeds because author told us.

 

[Chrono]

Buddy, majority of the scans you posted were bullet-timing feats. 99% of HxH's speed feats are bullet feats.

One Piece characters have lightning, meteor and lightspeed speed feats. HxH is a fodder here.

Because those were above Speed of Sound. And I just wanted to show you that means nothing here

Again untrue. The characters themselves can react to it....yes. But they sure as hell cant move at those speeds.

We saw and read it took him years to reach sound speed, so you can keep crying on that.



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Current Sanji is still being caught up to by bullets. And he is way faster than Zoro....hm I wonder what that means.

You do realize bullets are only a little bit faster than sound, and that's depending on the type of gun they're shot from.

Firearm muzzle velocities range from approximately 120 m/s (390 ft/s) to 370 m/s (1,200 ft/s) in black powder muskets,[3] to more than 1,200 m/s (3,900 ft/s)

Speed of sound is 343 m / s.

There is hardly any difference, so once again: the speed feats you're masturbating over are only supersonic (Mach 1 to Mach 5). Zoro has been Mach 300 (lightning speed) since CP9.

Zoro cant move at Mach 300 idiot. If he could then he could circle around the earth with ease and mere mintues. Can he react to those lightning speeds....sure why not. Inconsistency from Oda. But apparently OP characters have real high reaction for some reason.

Proof Netero and Adult Gon are 100 times faster? I can do this all day, mate. When you start posting some actual quantifiable evidence instead of your fanboy moaning, we can properly debate.

It was an exgerration to show how much times stronger. But I see you wanna take everything literal calm. I love HxH I could do this all day as well tbh.

I already did, but maths seems to be your weakness. The fact you use a speed without any kind figures and basically relies on heavy ass assumptions solidifies it.

How tf did you ? You literally said their are no figures. What does that even mean. Sure if their were like a gap in time or if the panels were inbetween another side plot then you would have a point. However the panelling from Togashi shows Pitou travelling from there in less than a second.

You are so delusion. You could literally say that for anything as at the end of the day its panels in a comic. I could easily say the cloud was above Khalifa for an extra 10 seconds before she noticed. Thus giving her enough time to create a defence. I could easily say bullshit like you.

Give it a rest and admit defeat.

Oda actually did say Logias are natural to their elements, meaning Eneru and Kizaru are literally lightning and light speed respectively. Nami's clouds are created exactly how storm clouds are made scientifically speaking. So we know they move at those speeds because author told us.

Again bullshit. Kizaru has to charge before moving at the speed of light. He also aim and travel in straight lines. He cannot just instantaneously get anywhere he wants at the speed of light. And that is barely helpful in CQC, as who will give him the time to do so.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Don't know anything about HxH, well I tried but i didn't get into it.
So just cause I like zoro, I'll say my man takes it here. Neg diff just for the haters:cheers:

 

[Edogawa]

I love HxH I could do this all day as well tbh.

And thanks for saying this, so I don't have to waste my time arguing with fangirls who can't accept their favorite anime is weaker.

Have fun wanking bullet timing feats. And cry over how weak HxH is to One Piece, which isn't even my favorite anime.

:cheers:

 

[Chrono]

And thanks for saying this, so I don't have to waste my time arguing with fangirls who can't accept their favorite anime is weaker.

Have fun wanking bullet timing feats. And cry over how weak HxH is to One Piece, which isn't even my favorite anime.

:cheers:

Ehh...I thought you would give up. But this damn quickly ? Did I debunk you that hard ? Or do you still believe Zoro can travel at Mach 300


Goodbye

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HxH universe is above OP lmao. You cannot deny the feats I've shown and thats why your running away lmao

When people in HxH can just break and rip their limbs off without even flicnhing. That truly shows a small indication of how truly far above they are.

 

[Finalbeta]

Ehh...I thought you would give up. But this damn quickly ? Did I debunk you that hard ? Or do you still believe Zoro can travel at Mach 300


Goodbye

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HxH universe is above OP lmao. You cannot deny the feats I've shown and thats why your running away lmao

When people in HxH can just break and rip their limbs off without even flicnhing. That truly shows a small indication of how truly far above they are.

Any high tier in OP is in the dozens of mach easily. Just think of the pre ts nova reacting to the Pacifista lasers.

 

[Chrono]

Any high tier in OP is in the dozens of mach easily. Just think of the pre ts nova reacting to the Pacifista lasers.

Reaction speed /=/ movement or combat speed

 

[Finalbeta]

Reaction speed /=/ movement or combat speed

It's the first thing that matters. Secondly they can definitely move way faster than sound. Even fodder Bellamy's spinning was impressive and fodder Luffy no sold it.

 

[Chrono]

It's the first thing that matters. Secondly they can definitely move way faster than sound. Even fodder Bellamy spinning was impressive and fodder Luffy no sold it.

Reaction speed does matter. I didnt say it doesnt. However being able to react to something doesnt mean you can travel at its speed. Sanji can easily dodge bullets, however he cannot run at the speed of a bullet. Like in WCI a bullet caught up to him whilst he was running and injured him. Showing he is slower than the speed of sound in movement speed.


Ofcourse Oda is truly very inconsistent with speeds in general as well.

The Bellamy feat literally means nothing. We dont know what speed he was moving at. And again that was a reaction speed feat for Luffy. Not movement/combat.

 

[Steven]

Adult Gon is around mach 40 while even Pre-TS Zorro is mach 6600 on a short distance

 

[Sentinel]

Adult Gon is around mach 40 while even Pre-TS Zorro is mach 6600 on a short distance

Which source do you use?

 

[Chrono]

Adult Gon is around mach 40 while even Pre-TS Zorro is mach 6600 on a short distance

So you are suggesting Zoro could go around the world in 0.0315151515 mintues

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Which source do you use?

Wank from the dick is a good source

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I thought Zoro being Mach 300 was bad enough.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

First of all saying the stats of OP >>>> HxH is pure baseless. At the very least bring feats in to this because there are mountain busters in HxH.

Second of all Greed Island Gon is like 1% of the power of Adult Gon. Greed Island Gon is still a child and is literally nothing in comparison. He went from being able to get neg diffed by Pitou, to Neg diffing her. The difference between these two 2 Gons is gigantic. Please dont even bring Greed Island Gon into this equation

Luffy isnt immune to blunt force. Hes been shown time and time again this isnt true. With pre timeskip Coby, Sanji and Lucci being able to make him bleed with an attack. He is just highly resistant. Luffy having more endurance than Meureum my ass crack.

This attack had the power of a Star. Its pure destructive power....capable destroying Luffy's rubber durability

And Meureum came out like this

And plus the only comparison I made between Gon and Luffy is endurance. Gon has better endurancw feata, even as a kid. Luffy has still yet lose limbs and carry on fighting.


Again please dont ever use Greed Island Gon in this argument.

Holy shit is HxH Art bad

 

[Chrono]

Holy shit is HxH Art bad

Jealous of the art is 20 times better than Bleach

Anyways please stay on topic.