Powers & Abilities Adv CoC is a requirement for Admiral rank

Which is it?

  • Admirals have CoC

  • Admirals have no CoC <--- 2 digit IQ people vote here


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#1
This has been a long time coming.


Now, for any sane person with at least somewhat average IQ, these panels would've been more than enough to understand that Admirals have CoC from author's intentions:



But these """people""" actually believe the story works like this:


Garp the pussy who is afraid of the Admiral rank because he lacks the will to resist Celestial Dragons


Bumgoku the WG goon


Koby whose dream is to sniff Admiral rank (remember these people claim he's the new, stronger Garp but then ignore his dream)


Meanwhile the real conquerors:

Akainu

Unlike Bumgoku (and Garp) who let Yonko rule the New World during their time,
once Akainu took the office, he moved HQ to the New World and now HE rules New World



That's right, Doflamingo's speech page is so poorly translated in official English release that most people somehow did not comprehend this part and still believe that Yonko rule the New World.
When in fact it's the Marines who are now the rulers once Akainu took the office:



This alone shows that new Admirals surpassed bums like Garp and Sengoku in terms of will, initiative and conquest who in their time let Yonko rule New World.

Kizaru

People misinterpret Kizaru's character so hilariously bad just because he called himself a "cog".
Kizaru is what Garp wishes he could be.


Garp tries to uphold his justice:

but he lacks the will to push himself and go through with it,
and we know how it ends


And remember Garp was not ordered to stand in the way of Luffy or even go into battlefield, he tried to do this all on his own accord. He tried to uphold his justice to let Ace die and beat Luffy:

So the excuse "He lost on purpose" does not work. He lost because he lost the will.

Meanwhile Kizaru does what Garp wanted but failed to do,
Kizaru upholds his justice and has the will to push himself to kill his dear friend. Kizaru has MUCH stronger will than Garp. And will = haki.



Kizaru directly refuses Saturn's order right in his face and tells Saturn that he will do things his own way just so to not disrespect Sentomaru's honor:

Reminder that Garp is a pussy afraid of Admiral rank because he can't do this.

Kizaru's order triumphs over Saturn's order.
Doll tries to question and argue back to Saturn's order, but once Kizaru says 1 word, she gets shocked and listens right away:



Kuzan

The easiest CoC to see.
Those """people"""" who claim to be haki experts just recently tried to argue that Gaban did not have CoC because of their arbitrary haki signs like lightning not being thick enough or not K.O fodder, only to get slapped in the face by today's chapter.


Same thing here.
Kuzan and Garp have a clash that is basically 1:1 like Roger's and WB's and people try to gaslight and say that it's not CoC because it does not fit their headcanon rules of what CoC should do. But then those same people will have no problem accepting Kaido's and Meme's weak clash that has no signs whatsoever.



Not to mention this CoC haki is so advanced that it does what we've never seen before and creates haki explosion:


Fujitora

-Directly calls out WG
-Overrides WG orders
-Makes Vice Admiral fall on his ass just from his words



Unlike Garp the pussy,
Fujitora can have the Admiral rank and still directly oppose WG in their own home, free slaves and gets no punishment.



Aramaki

So in before all the cope with "muh wifi haki"

-Imu literally falls to his knees from haki that is in the other side of the world and did not even hit him
-cries out of pain
-huffs huffs
-shakes
And once again these low IQ people who claim that Imu solo'd joyboy and his army, have no problem with Imu "twerking" to Joyboy's haki and still being "final villain", but Aramaki being surprised by haki is somehow a great anti-feat that no other yonko besides Shanks the child of destiny, can even do.



Admiral rank meaning

Unlike Yonko title,
Admiral rank is strictly based on power and nothing more. You can only become Admiral if you are strong enough, so that means reaching the peak power there is.


Vice Admiral rank - all VA must use 2 haki
Admiral rank - all Admirals must use 3 haki and CoC is worthless unless it's advanced.


Summary

Current age Admirals are true conquerors that humiliate bums like Garp and Sengoku.
Current Admirals have way stronger haki than Garp and Sengoku and it actually makes sense since Luffy is about surpassing Roger which means his marine enemies have to be much stronger than Garp and Sengoku as well for that to happen.
 
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#2
Great thread, and great points all around. I always wanted Oda to stay away from CoC when it came to the Admirals, but the logic just doesn't add up anymore. Coby's dream is to be Admiral and we are watching him grow into one in real time, just like we are with Zoro and his WSS path. We don't doubt Mihawk has CoC, the only reason we doubt it with the Admirals is because they already had busted fruits.

It's getting harder and harder to rationalize, I just hope Oda retcons CoC to be something you don't have to be born with, I hate the implication that every single top tier had to be gifted from birth. If he's not going to do this, but give all top tiers CoC I want him to flood the high tiers and possibly even lower with CoC, that way we can atleast say CoC isn't a free path to top tier status. If 98% of all CoC users end up as top tiers and only 2% stay high tier, then One Piece somehow makes Naruto look balanced when it comes to genetic privilege.

And you touched on this but it's basically a requirement for the Vice Admiral position to have CoA and CoO.


If Oda is heading in the direction we all think he is, then it makes sense if the Admiral rank being the next one up after Vice Admiral, filters out by CoC.
 
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#3
The Admirals are already established as a Top Tier group just like the Yonkou/Old Legends and by reputation, the strongest officers from the strongest military force. it would be nonsense if Admirals were the the only group with no CoC user, despite their busted DFs.

But yeah, i agree, CoC should be an great factor for the Admiral rank position
 
#7
There’s no reason to think they all have CoC.

They are 3 billion berry characters. You can be a 3 bil without CoC or ACoC. Law is the perfect example. Kid has CoC but it isn’t advanced.

Also, most admirals haven’t shown CoC in any form.

If anything, ACoC/CoC might be a requirement to be fleet admiral. Sengoku is a confirmed CoC user, Kuzan possibly used it against Garp, and Akainu was able to clash with WB(an ACoC user).
 
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#13
If anyone beside akainu and kuzan have it everyone will have it
Terrible to bet against Akainu having it, which means so does Kuzan.

It's very hard to imagine Oda not giving Fujitora CoC with his character archetype, and since Fujitora and Greenbull are a packaged deal this likely means Greenbull will also have it, it wouldn't even make sense at that point to single out Kizaru.

This thread will probably age well, I can even see a straight up statement confirming all Admirals have CoC when CoC becomes completely common ground. Oda tried to preserve its cool factor for as long as he could, but Chinjao's words are damning, he basically confirmed all Admirals and Yonkou have it, word for word. Maybe Oda changed his mind after he wrote that Chinjao scene, but the recent developments in the manga are bringing us full circle.
 
#18
Terrible to bet against Akainu having it, which means so does Kuzan.

It's very hard to imagine Oda not giving Fujitora CoC with his character archetype, and since Fujitora and Greenbull are a packaged deal this likely means Greenbull will also have it, it wouldn't even make sense at that point to single out Kizaru.

This thread will probably age well, I can even see a straight up statement confirming all Admirals have CoC when CoC becomes completely common ground. Oda tried to preserve its cool factor for as long as he could, but Chinjao's words are damning, he basically confirmed all Admirals and Yonkou have it, word for word. Maybe Oda changed his mind after he wrote that Chinjao scene, but the recent developments in the manga are bringing us full circle.
We will see i seen every type of haki expert downfall people are not good at predicit oda with this stuff
 
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