The title stands above anything else and databooks are revisioned by Oda, otherwise why is Roger not labeled as WSM too
Character Discussion Advance CoC came before DF Awakening for Luffy?
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I’m pretty sure that title was because Whitebeard alone could destroy the world due to his fruit. I doubt Roger could cause tsunamis and break islands with a punch but one on one Roger and Whitebeard were equals if not Roger having a slight edge
Depends if there's levels of haki that even Roger and whitebeard didn't get. Would make sense for luffy to pioneer a whole new tier by EoS
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That's literally the next tier bro. Base CoC imposes your will on others, the next tier is a physical manifestation
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You're literally describing the transition from one level to the next though. Making it flow is what differed CoA and Adv. CoA
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That's literally the next tier bro. Base CoC imposes your will on others, the next tier is a physical manifestation
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You're literally describing the transition from one level to the next though. Making it flow is what differed CoA and Adv. CoA
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Because Kaido is a CoC specialist and Teach is not. Hence why it makes sense for Luffy to develop CoC in its themed arc while unlocking awakening in Teach's arc since Teach is a devil fruit maniac who read the devil fruit encyclopedia and spent two decades orchestrating his DF plan, he has enough experience to awaken his devil fruits right before facing Luffy. So just like how Luffy observed Ragnarok from Kaido to comprehend CoC fundamentals, he will unlock awakening by observing Teach's triple awakening.
That also bears a striking resemblance to Luffy learning FS during his fight with a FS user like Katakuri. Kaido (CoC) and Teach (Awakening) will follow the same trend.
There's something strange with how Oda still keeps Vegapunk in the shadows, he said he knows the mechanism behind devil fruits so it makes sense that only after his revelation that Luffy will unlock awakening so that readers fully comprehend the ability.
That also bears a striking resemblance to Luffy learning FS during his fight with a FS user like Katakuri. Kaido (CoC) and Teach (Awakening) will follow the same trend.
There's something strange with how Oda still keeps Vegapunk in the shadows, he said he knows the mechanism behind devil fruits so it makes sense that only after his revelation that Luffy will unlock awakening so that readers fully comprehend the ability.
In an SBS, wasn't it stated Luffy was a Conqueror's haki specialist? He simply has an affinity for it but didn't get an idea of how to apply it into combat but learned after witnessing Kaido and pondering about it. Similar to his fight against Katakuri where he improved his Observation haki.
With Awakening, I suppose it's simply more difficult and requires extensive training with your own fruit. Luffy saw Doffy and Katakuri use it but hasn't shown that he's got a grasp on the concept but has improved his haki after witnessing someone else display their's as well as train for a few days in regards to armament. I think with awakening the user themselves has to completely understand or master their fruit to that level. Hopefully we'll get an explanation soon.
Rayleigh told Luffy his Conqueror's can't be improved by simply training (atleast not in the way you can for armament or observation) and that it'll get stronger along with the user so I guess it's simply Luffy applying what he's been strengthening throughout his journey from before to post-timeskip after getting an idea of how to do so from Kaido.
With Awakening, I suppose it's simply more difficult and requires extensive training with your own fruit. Luffy saw Doffy and Katakuri use it but hasn't shown that he's got a grasp on the concept but has improved his haki after witnessing someone else display their's as well as train for a few days in regards to armament. I think with awakening the user themselves has to completely understand or master their fruit to that level. Hopefully we'll get an explanation soon.
Rayleigh told Luffy his Conqueror's can't be improved by simply training (atleast not in the way you can for armament or observation) and that it'll get stronger along with the user so I guess it's simply Luffy applying what he's been strengthening throughout his journey from before to post-timeskip after getting an idea of how to do so from Kaido.
hmm
not necessarily more powerful
the powerups he gets is highly dependent on his opponent
fs - katakuri
coa and coc - kaido to bypass his surable scales
awakening prob will be adjusted for his opponent and will make him look stronger for sure
but not because its a bigger buff than fs, ryou or coc
but because he had all these things and added the awakening on top of it all.
not necessarily more powerful
the powerups he gets is highly dependent on his opponent
fs - katakuri
coa and coc - kaido to bypass his surable scales
awakening prob will be adjusted for his opponent and will make him look stronger for sure
but not because its a bigger buff than fs, ryou or coc
but because he had all these things and added the awakening on top of it all.