Multiverse General Advance Power Scaling

[BleakAsh]

makes sense. Another question what certain level of speed do you have to where time is basically slow down time?

ok now that's quite the quesiton, from what i understand
It doesn't solely depend on speed...it also depends on time or specifically where that time is being perceived.

And perception is key because that's is what time is, it is the perception of things evolving around us in stages that we record.

I think this is where Einsteinvs theory of relatively and time dilation really elaborated alot i recommend you check it out its quite scintillating

The faster you go your perception of time is slower than those static or slower than you.. It just happens to be the case.

And since time is the measure of how long it takes for things to evolve.. The faster you are the longer time it takes for any evolution, change etc.. Meaning if you're traveling at high speeds.. Your body is ageing slower.

The answer to your quesiton is.. Time slows down whenever you move at a certain pace its just too negligible to feel it.. But according to theory of relatively.. The closer you are to the speed of light the slowest time will move for you.

And just to entertain the thought.. Based on the aforementioned, Infinite speed in this case might even mean eternal youth depending on when you decide to reach those speed.. Ofc assuming you are invincible physical.. Given moving at high speeds generates friction with your body and you'll be torn to oblivion if you tried to go high speeds near light speeds

 

[Transcendent Being]

ok now that's quite the quesiton, from what i understand
It doesn't solely depend on speed...it also depends on time or specifically where that time is being perceived.

And perception is key because that's is what time is, it is the perception of things evolving around us in stages that we record.

I think this is where Einsteinvs theory of relatively and time dilation really elaborated alot i recommend you check it out its quite scintillating

The faster you go your perception of time is slower than those static or slower than you.. It just happens to be the case.

And since time is the measure of how long it takes for things to evolve.. The faster you are the longer time it takes for any evolution, change etc.. Meaning if you're traveling at high speeds.. Your body is ageing slower.

The answer to your quesiton is.. Time slows down whenever you move at a certain pace its just too negligible to feel it.. But according to theory of relatively.. The closer you are to the speed of light the slowest time will move for you.

And just to entertain the thought.. Based on the aforementioned, Infinite speed in this case might even mean eternal youth depending on when you decide to reach those speed.. Ofc assuming you are invincible physical.. Given moving at high speeds generates friction with your body and you'll be torn to oblivion if you tried to go high speeds near light speeds

so like quick silver in that one X-Men movie from the kitchen scenario?

 

[BleakAsh]

so like quick silver in that one X-Men movie from the kitchen scenario?

Nah that's pire fiction.. You don't go slowmo.. The time just ticks differently for you

Yes the faster you are and the more you have control of your speed other will take significantly more time to react to whatever's happening

But you can't just stop in the middle and redirect bullets 😂

 

[Transcendent Being]

Nah that's pire fiction.. You don't go slowmo.. The time just ticks differently for you

Yes the faster you are and the more you have control of your speed other will take significantly more time to react to whatever's happening

But you can't just stop in the middle and redirect bullets 😂

but from quicksilver's perception everything seems to slow down because he's moving faster than you normally see.

 

[BleakAsh]

but from quicksilver's perception everything seems to slow down because he's moving faster than you normally see.

Its not that everything slowdown.. They are just too slow compared to his movement and its not true that you see everything in slomo and generally speaking you can't halt yourself all of a sudden especially at speeds faster than speed of sound, imagine what happens to a car that suddenly stops at 200km/h on a highway.

The slomo affect is false you don't perceive things slowly its just speed affects you and tge way you perceive it remains the same.

 

[Transcendent Being]

Its not that everything slowdown.. They are just too slow compared to his movement and its not true that you see everything in slomo and generally speaking you can't halt yourself all of a sudden especially at speeds faster than speed of sound, imagine what happens to a car that suddenly stops at 200km/h on a highway.

The slowmo affect is false you don't perceive things slowly its just speed affects you and the way you perceive it remains the same.

would that same logic apply to shinra from fire force?

 

[BleakAsh]

would that same logic apply to shinra from fire force?

I haven't watched FF so i am not aware but my statement takes real life logic into account.. Well its based on it really.

 

[Transcendent Being]

I haven't watched FF so i am not aware but my statement takes real life logic into account.. Well its based on it really.

yeah most fans think no type of logic should apply because it's fiction. My thing is just because they have powers that lets characters go above the laws of physics doesn't mean they're not still bound by it.

 

[BleakAsh]

yeah most fans think no type of logic should apply because it's fiction. My thing is just because they have powers that lets characters go above the laws of physics doesn't mean they're not still bound by it.

Anything that is designed to be understood, whether ficiton, has logical mechanisms stemming from reality, if not, selfmade in universes within it for people to use rational thought to comprehend the concepts.

If you don't have logical restraints then anything goes honestly..

That's why PS here especially is such a pain in the ass sometimes because of stubbornness and no damn respect for rational arguments its just double standards and biases.

 

[Transcendent Being]

Anything that is designed to be understood, whether ficiton, has logical mechanisms stemming from reality, if not, selfmade in universes within it for people to use rational thought to comprehend the concepts.

If you don't have logical restraints then anything goes honestly..

That's why PS here especially is such a pain in the ass sometimes because of stubbornness and no damn respect for rational arguments its just double standards and biases.

Exactly unless we're talking about a world where magic is the only primary source in a story that's a whole different discussion since it has its own set of rules and laws place there.

 

[1223334444]

infinite implies immesureable. You can compare infinites to other infinites and define which infinte grows faster. However, "immesureable" and "infinite" speeds are nonesense. The implication is that the speeds are increasing constantly in both cases therefore to determine a speed you would need to know time and position with respect to a frame. In other words if you would be able to calculate "infinite" - "immesureable" speed you'd be halting time at that point...since the "thing" that can be measure would be the rate at which speed is increasing better known as acceleration, I guess you can say that "Immesureable" speed (according to your definitions) is a faster growing infinity than what you define as "infinite" speed. Either way, the choice of definitions is muddy at best.

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The equation for speed is distance/time (d/t). Like meters per second for example.

Infinite speed is ♾️/t.
The top part of the equation is infinite.
For example, some versions of superman/the flash can travel to the end of the universe (an infinite distance) but it takes them explicitly like 10 minutes.

Immeasurable speed is d/0 or d/?.
For example, moving in stopped time (the time part of the equation goes to 0) or moving through time (the time part of the equation breaks down) is immeasurable speed.

This is wrong. Infinite speed is not inf/t, and moving in "stopped" time means you can be everywhere at the same time.

"Infinite" speed would be d/t=inf, or t =d/inf ; d=inf * t, saying that the if you were to measure time having traveled a distance it would be ever inching closer to zero, and that knowing a traveled time the distance would be ever growing... doesnt make much sense now does it?

If you move on stopped time then you are occupying all the distance traveled at the same time. You can say that if you are able to do this for x amount of distance then you could do this in the entire universe and occupy all of it at once, this would be a "4th" dimensional property at play and speculation would be the foundation of said power.

 

[BleakAsh]

infinite implies immesureable. You can compare infinites to other infinites and define which infinte grows faster. However, "immesureable" and "infinite" speeds are nonesense. The implication is that the speeds are increasing constantly in both cases therefore to determine a speed you would need to know time and position with respect to a frame. In other words if you would be able to calculate "infinite" - "immesureable" speed you'd be halting time at that point...since the "thing" that can be measure would be the rate at which speed is increasing better known as acceleration, I guess you can say that "Immesureable" speed (according to your definitions) is a faster growing infinity than what you define as "infinite" speed. Either way, the choice of definitions is muddy at best.

Well yea depends on how you use it

Like here you assume there is a constant progression towards infinity. x-> infinity (as x approaches infinity) with x being speed
Like the whole Saitama and Garuo exponential function growth graph example


And I assume mine to be a constant getgo speed if someone wanted to travel as fast as possible from the start:
_____________________________________________
x times infinityA < InfinityB ( x(infinityA) is slower than infinityB.)
As x->d.
d = destination
x = speed
InfinityA = initial infinite speed
InfiniteB = final infinite speed

the " 'x' times infiniteA " speed at which a person or the object moves towards d(destination) will be less than InfiniteB which is the speed that the person or object will be at when they reach the destination, which even tho is logical shouldn't matter coz it'd be instantaneous..

 

[1223334444]

Well yea depends on how you use it

Like here you assume there is a constant progression towards infinity. x-> infinity (as x approaches infinity) with x being speed
Like the whole Saitama and Garuo exponential function growth graph example


And I assume mine to be a constant getgo speed if someone wanted to travel as fast as possible from the start:
_____________________________________________
x times infinityA < InfinityB ( x(infinityA) is slower than infinityB.)
As x->d.
d = destination
x = speed
InfinityA = initial infinite speed
InfiniteB = final infinite speed

the " 'x' times infiniteA " speed at which a person or the object moves towards d(destination) will be less than InfiniteB which is the speed that the person or object will be at when they reach the destination, which even tho is logical shouldn't matter coz it'd be instantaneous..

speed is define as S = d/t "infinte" SPEED is talking about S not d or t. The problem with saying that your assumption is someone starting at "top" speed from the getgo is that there is no such thing as top speed if you are talking about "infinte" or "immesureable" then whatever speed you can think of can always increase. As stated before "infinte" or "immeasureable" speed implies acceleration.

Fast as possible would imply instantly whoch reverts to the other point of if you do that then you are everywhere at the same time.

 

[Transcendent Being]

The 6 Stages of Power ​

Speed:

F-Tier(average)
E-Tier(subsonic)
D-Tier(transonic)
C-Tier(supersonic)
B-Tier(hypersonic)
A-Tier(Lightning speed)
S-Tier(light speed)
X-Tier(superluminal)
∞-Tier(immeasurable)


Strength:
F-Tier(human to peak)
E-Tier(wall to city block)
D-Tier(town to mountain level)
C-Tier(isle to multi-continental)
B-Tier(small planetary to large planetary)
A-Tier(dwarf star to large star)
S-Tier(star system to multi-star system)
X-Tier(galaxy to multi-galaxy)
∞-Tier(universal to multi-universal)


Durability:
F-Tier(human to peak)
E-Tier(wall to city block)
D-Tier(town to mountain level)
C-Tier(isle to multi-continental)
B-Tier(small planetary to large planetary)
A-Tier(dwarf star to large star)
S-Tier(star system to multi-star system)
X-Tier(galaxy to multi-galaxy)
∞-Tier(universal to multi-universal)


Energy Output:
F-Tier (human to peak)
E-Tier(wall to city block)
D-Tier(town to mountain level)
C-Tier(isle to multi-continental)
B-Tier(small planetary to large planetary)
A-Tier(dwarf star to large star)
S-Tier(star system to multi-star system)
X-Tier(galaxy to multi-galaxy)
∞-Tier(universal to multi-universal)


Perception:
F-Tier(average)
E-Tier(subsonic)
D-Tier(transonic)
C-Tier(supersonic)
B-Tier(hypersonic)
A-Tier(Lightning speed)
S-Tier(light speed)
X-Tier(superluminal)
∞-Tier(immeasurable)

Hax:
Normal
Magical
Reality warper

 

[BleakAsh]

speed is define as S = d/t "infinte" SPEED is talking about S not d or t. The problem with saying that your assumption is someone starting at "top" speed from the getgo is that there is no such thing as top speed if you are talking about "infinte" or "immesureable" then whatever speed you can think of can always increase. As stated before "infinte" or "immeasureable" speed implies acceleration.

Fast as possible would imply instantly whoch reverts to the other point of if you do that then you are everywhere at the same time.

Sure you cna say that which is the point I'm trying to make

 

[Transcendent Being]

Sure you cna say that which is the point I'm trying to make

hey is there a way to tell the difference between subsonic and transonic speed in fiction or in real life for that matter?

 

[BleakAsh]

hey is there a way to tell the difference between subsonic and transonic speed in fiction or in real life for that matter?

Sub is anything fractional than soind, idk about trans.. Maybe you gitta ask its pronouns

 

[Transcendent Being]

speed is define as S = d/t "infinte" SPEED is talking about S not d or t. The problem with saying that your assumption is someone starting at "top" speed from the getgo is that there is no such thing as top speed if you are talking about "infinte" or "immesureable" then whatever speed you can think of can always increase. As stated before "infinte" or "immeasureable" speed implies acceleration.

Fast as possible would imply instantly whoch reverts to the other point of if you do that then you are everywhere at the same time.

hey is there a way to tell the difference between subsonic and transonic speed in fiction or in real life for that matter?

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Sub is anything fractional than soind, idk about trans.. Maybe you gitta ask its pronouns

Hey can someone move your thread automatically?

 

[Daniel]

infinite speed = immeasurable speed

Immeasurable would mean there's no (common and/or easy) mathematical term to set a value for its speed wouldn't it?

So terms such as infinity wouldn't apply here.

 

[BleakAsh]

Immeasurable would mean there's no (common and/or easy) mathematical term to set a value for its speed wouldn't it?

So terms such as infinity wouldn't apply here.

Well infinity applies to it since infinity is immeasurable.