Powers & Abilities Advanced Armament has nothing to do with Advanced Conqueror. PERIOD!

[Herrera95]

Adv coc is like hardening
Coated you arm or weapon with it
But the thing is that only a handfull can unlocked it
And like hardening it has another lvl to (not touching) who is basically a barrier
Luffy is using internal destruction with coc that is why it is so strong
Shanks does the same probably

We have no clear Luffy is doing internal damage to Kaido. So far Kaido bleeded the most after receiving Red Roc which was internal damage.
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CoC infusion is lightning trail.

CoA emission is invisible punch.

Both can be combined.

This is not hard to underestand people.

Yamato only uses CoC infusion. Base Kaido's Thunder bagua was only imbued with CoC. The one that KOd G4 Luffy and he hit Kinemon with.

Only Roger, WB, Kaido, BM, and Luffy have shown to be able to use ACoA + ACoC. They have lightning trail + invisible force.

Also clash between Conquerors =/= ACoC being used. That is just a clash between conquerors. No lightning trail, no CoC infusion.

Until manga explains that this combination is possible is not about being hard or not to udnerstand is about being head canon.

 

[Master OF Haki]

It's stupid to discuss about CoC when Oda hasn't explained it at all. Seeing you guys discussing CoC is like seeing two priests discussing about quantum physics, like what's even the point of it? Just to spend some time, are you that lonely?

 

[Herrera95]

It's stupid to discuss about CoC when Oda hasn't explained it at all. Seeing you guys discussing CoC is like seeing two priests discussing about quantum physics, like what's even the point of it? Just to spend some time, are you that lonely?

No dude. Oda explained CoC. People are using head cannon trying to figure it out things that wasn't explained as they were true.

 

[Master OF Haki]

No dude. Oda explained CoC. People are using head cannon trying to figure it out things that wasn't explained as they were true.

And what did Oda explain? Did he say what CoC does? No. We just saw that Luffy suddenly became powerful with advanced CoC haki, there was no explanation as to how it works or what it does, nothing. So tell me, where did Oda ever explain it?

 

[Herrera95]

And what did Oda explain? Did he say what CoC does? No. We just saw that Luffy suddenly became powerful with advanced CoC haki, there was no explanation as to how it works or what it does, nothing. So tell me, where did Oda ever explain it?

Simply coating attacks with CoC. Nothing related to internal damage, Ryou or whatever.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Simply coating attacks with CoC. Nothing related to internal damage, Ryou or whatever.

Then what happens after coating?

 

[Herrera95]

Then what happens after coating?

Stronger attack that you don't even touch the enemy.

 

[Rmstorm]

I think I made a mistake in my words. I mean Red Roc made greater damage to Kaido. He looks worst after receiving Red Roc than after Luffy started punching him with ACoC.

Becuase Red Roc is Gear 2(Speed) + Gear 3(hardness of bone) + fire + Internal Destruction + Massive Area of Effect.

 

[Herrera95]

Becuase Red Roc is Gear 2(Speed) + Gear 3(hardness of bone) + fire + Internal Destruction + Massive Area of Effect.

Based on headcanon.

 

[Rmstorm]

Based on headcanon.

That is not headcannon. It is what Is siad it is. He uses Gear 2 and Gear 3 wirh fire and Internal Destruction haki. Its all on panel, crystal clear in 1000.

 

[Herrera95]

That is not headcannon. It is what Is siad it is. He uses Gear 2 and Gear 3 wirh fire and Internal Destruction haki. Its all on panel, crystal clear in 1000.

There is nothing about G2.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Stronger attack that you don't even touch the enemy.

Why stronger? For example, we know that armament coating makes you as tough as iron, advanced armament can destroy things from within etc. So what does CoC do? Show me a panel where it explains CoC the same way he did with armament and observation.

 

[Finalbeta]

IIRC advanced armament is not exactly supposed to destroy things from within. The strike is still oriented from the external but a penetrating blast wave is generated which renders the strike much more penetrating than a basic one.

 

[Herrera95]

Why stronger? For example, we know that armament coating makes you as tough as iron, advanced armament can destroy things from within etc. So what does CoC do? Show me a panel where it explains CoC the same way he did with armament and observation.

Stronger because Kaido said only a handful of the strongest can use it. Because BM one-shotted P1 with ACoC. Roger sent Oden flying away with that. Oden and Zoro made scars on Kaido with that.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Stronger because Kaido said only a handful of the strongest can use it. Because BM one-shotted P1 with ACoC. Roger sent Oden flying away with that. Oden and Zoro made scars on Kaido with that.

That's observation, not explanation. Even before timskip we knew that haki exists because of observation from Marinford, and we knew that haki allows you to hurt DF users, that was the extent of what we knew back then. But, later after timskip we found out that there's more to haki then we thought. What you're saying is an assumption, an observation based on what we saw, it doesn't explain CoC at all, hell, your explanation can be even used for every type of haki. What Kaido said isn't explanation at all, Kaido just says that only few people managed to achieve that feat, Kaido is essentially praising Luffy for his strength. My question stays the same, what does CoC do?

 

[Herrera95]

That's observation, not explanation. Even before timskip we knew that haki exists because of observation from Marinford, and we knew that haki allows you to hurt DF users, that was the extent of what we knew back then. But, later after timskip we found out that there's more to haki then we thought. What you're saying is an assumption, an observation based on what we saw, it doesn't explain CoC at all, hell, your explanation can be even used for every type of haki. What Kaido said isn't explanation at all, Kaido just says that only few people managed to achieve that feat, Kaido is essentially praising Luffy for his strength. My question stays the same, what does CoC do?

CoC coats the body as CoA and only handful of the strongest can use it.
That the explanation we have.
We have no explanation about mixing CoC with CoA. So saying this is head canon.
We have a explanation that only the strongest can coat CoC that means it is stronger than any other haki technique otherwise the strongest wouldn't use it or wouldn't be the strongest.

 

[PrimordialGod95]

There's no such thing as advance armament(busoshoku) or advance conquerors(Haoshoku) haki. They are just fan made terms fans use because because ignore the context of the story. The manga doesn't even call it that. Busoshoku and kenbunshoku all can do various of different things but it all stem from whatever type of haki you are using. Emission and hardening both stem from busoshoku haki they are not advance applications but they can get stronger depending on which version of it that you use over time whatever is through training or through battle.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

lol