Questions & Mysteries Against whom Zoro will split the sky with ACOC for the first time

[gz89]

You must be reading Two Piece my man lmao. His victory over Doflamingo was not 1v1, his victory over Cracker was not 1v1, his victory over Katakuri was laughable, his victory over Kaido required multiple rounds after Kaido survived one of the longest gauntlets we've seen in the manga.

Zoro bodied Luffy's opponent before Luffy did with Hody lmfaoo, and without plot armour Luffy's opponents dogwalk Luffy too 😂 Terrible argument

Idk why you're bringing up pre-TS as if Zoro wasn't canonically equal to Luffy on Whiskey Peak and as if Zoro didn't scare the living shit out of Luffy's opponent Arlong.

Zoro's technically had stronger opponents than Luffy's in arcs too, he just didn't win. Mihawk > Krieg, Kuma > Moriah. Thus, Zoro must've been stronger than Luffy in these arcs because his opponents were stronger - your logic.

If, after 1086 chapters, you still can't see that Oda treats Zoro better than Luffy when it comes to battle then idk what to tell you. Oda always makes sure Zoro looks good because he's the token 'badass' of One Piece. Thus, common sense dictates that he will usually look good in comparison to Luffy, especially if they're fighting side by side. On the other hand, Oda's willing to make Luffy look fucking terrible lool.

Kuzan is as strong as Teach, that was an awful example. Kuzan was willing to fight Teach and his whole crew lool, Teach ran from the man who Kuzan fought evenly for 10 days. Furthermore, your examples are awful because this is not EoS. Every character bar Teach that you mentioned has reached their prime - they're no longer growing in strength. Thus, if you were arguing EoS Luffy > EoS Zoro when their power levels are static, then you could use them as valid arguments.

But you're not. Luffy and Zoro are still growing in strength and grow at different rates. Sometimes one is stronger, other times the other is stronger. It's not fixed - their power levels are dynamic depending on when they get their power-ups so at any point in an arc they could be super close or super far from each other. For some reason this bothers insecure Luffy stans who always revert back to "muh no.2 can't be close to muh no.1!11!!" lmao.

Funnily enough the same applies to Sanji here as well - for a chapter, IJ Sanji was actually quite close to RT Zoro. It's just so happened that in the following chapter Zoro grew significantly stronger.

You really trying to knock some sense into someone who worships a pair of walking boobs ?

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Zoro will NEVER caught up to luffy, he NEVER defeated an opponent stronger than luffy's opponent in the same arc or after.

He gets luffys sloppy seconds and is more than happy for that.

Zoro neg Morgans clown

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Zoro neg Morgans clown

Lol, not at that time

 

[L55]

Never going to happen, Swordsmen aiming for WSS always touch and AdCoC is not touching..

Black Blades is the counter balance for no AdCoC..

But shanks and wb touched

 

[Rootbeer]

It is. You‘re just delusional to accept it. We‘ve seen countless times that ACoC indeed is touching too. It was nowhere stated that it only is no touching. Its just in your crippled head.

It was stated in AdCoC's introductory chapter which was the most important to the narrative.. Common sense..

Okay mr. I know everything better than even the creator of the series. If kaidos attack on kinemon was no touching too even if it was drawn to look like it touched, why did kinemons swords break? Magic? Or maybe because it touched? You are triggering me hard.

The same way an AdCoC attack make people bleed even if they are not touching..
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But shanks and wb touched

So?.. Haki wasn't shown pretimeskip, let alone AdCoC's introduction as a power..

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Mihawk is the only conqueror Zoro will fight so obviously him.

 

[langitbarat]

All instances where AdCoC is used and seen '' touching '', it's Oda deciding to draw them like that because it would be a mess to always portray panels '' No touching ''.. Basicly Oda cornered himself, so he has to be inconsistent with AdCoC when showcased..

But if you look at Shanks first main attack in the series, a named attack, he didn't touch either.. The Narrative significance matters more..

Rather than cornering himself and have his story have more flaws, why not just go with ACoC can both touch & no-touch?

I don't see any negative consequences if Oda decided with this. In fact it will cover the inconsistency.

 

[Rootbeer]

Rather than cornering himself and have his story have more flaws, why not just go with ACoC can both touch & no-touch?

I don't see any negative consequences if Oda decided with this. In fact it will cover the inconsistency.

That's just not what was presented on chapter 1010 and 1011, the main characteristic was not touching, highlighted by Law which is a direct replica of Oden reacting to Roger and Whitebeard's clash..

It's a drawing mess, most of the readers still don't understand that Shanks' attack did not touch there..
And that his Kamusari and Roger's are completely different..

Also Oda is way past caring about flaws when he decided to rush his story to be free at, in his 50's or something?..
You can also see the shift in care for his work as a whole with the live action series.. Very sad..

 

[L55]

So?.. Haki wasn't shown pretimeskip, let alone AdCoC's introduction as a power..

Cope cry

 

[Rootbeer]

Cope cry

Not an argument..

 

[L55]

Not an argument..

Yes it is
They touched move on

 

[Black]

It was stated in AdCoC's introductory chapter which was the most important to the narrative.. Common sense..


The same way an AdCoC attack make people bleed even if they are not touching..
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So?.. Haki wasn't shown pretimeskip, let alone AdCoC's introduction as a power..

No it wasn’t stated in AdCoC‘s introductory chapter. In fact in the debut chapter we saw how kaido hit luffy with an ACoC attack. Right after that it was revealed to be conquerors coating. The no touch part was never a statement from oda. If it was oda wouldn’t have drawn kaido hitting luffy with it or kinemon.

I can use your logic to anyone even zoro. Zoro didn’t touch king even if it looked like it. He cut him via no touching. You can’t use that argument since its full of flaws.

Lets face it no touching is actually touching it just looks like it doesn’t touch.

 

[langitbarat]

That's just not what was presented on chapter 1010 and 1011, the main characteristic was not touching, highlighted by Law which is a direct replica of Oden reacting to Roger and Whitebeard's clash..

There is one last hurdle: what if those scenes are just because of their lack of knowledge?
It happened before with Pell explaining the flight DF thing.

 

[kumae]

From with who will zoro split the sky to rootbear Acoc thread :risitavirus:

 

[mly90]

From with who will zoro split the sky to rootbear Acoc thread :risitavirus:

When Mihawk and Zoro do split the sky they will claim someone was using dance powder to manipulate the clouds

 

[Rootbeer]

Yes it is
They touched move on

Saying '' Cry coper '' is not an argument..

No it wasn’t stated in AdCoC‘s introductory chapter. In fact in the debut chapter we saw how kaido hit luffy with an ACoC attack. Right after that it was revealed to be conquerors coating. The no touch part was never a statement from oda. If it was oda wouldn’t have drawn kaido hitting luffy with it or kinemon.

I can use your logic to anyone even zoro. Zoro didn’t touch king even if it looked like it. He cut him via no touching. You can’t use that argument since its full of flaws.

Lets face it no touching is actually touching it just looks like it doesn’t touch.

It was the chapter prior to 1010.. A Statement repeated 2 times from 2 different major character, is an indirect contextual statement..
No because it's a mess to draw them always not touching..

Zoro never not touched, he always made contact.. Whether through the blade directly or an aerial slash coming from the blade connecting..

Zoro has never done this..

It was always this..

Doesn't matter..

There is one last hurdle: what if those scenes are just because of their lack of knowledge?
It happened before with Pell explaining the flight DF thing.

What if this, what if that.. When is the AdCoC's Narrative at his peak in the story?.. Chapter 1010 which is a direct call back to Chapter 966..

 

[L55]

Saying '' Cry coper '' is not an argument..




It was the chapter prior to 1010.. A Statement repeated 2 times from 2 different major character, is an indirect contextual statement..
No because it's a mess to draw them always not touching..

Zoro never not touched, he always made contact.. Whether through the blade directly or an aerial slash coming from the blade connecting..

Zoro has never done this..

It was always this..

Doesn't matter..

What if this, what if that.. When is the AdCoC's Narrative at his peak in the story?.. Chapter 1010 which is a direct call back to Chapter 966..

Big mom and kaido touched and they split the sky
Cry more

 

[Rootbeer]

Big mom and kaido touched and they split the sky
Cry more

That was before AdCoC was revealed..

 

[L55]

That was before AdCoC was revealed..

 

[Rootbeer]

Not an argument..