Controversial Akatsuki VS Imu-Sama
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Yep, Luffy was basically flexing how he was just casually grabbing lightning and toying with it like it's nothing, before it even hit the ground. You know lightning bolts usually hit the ground and quickly disappear but Luffy was catching them mid-air.
Gear 5 is ridiculous because of toonforce but we've seen Kizaru outspeeding Luffy several times when it comes to travel and attack speed.
It's because CoO always needs to be activated against Kizaru while being fully focused. A single distraction and he's quickly blitzing you - an actual character who moves with LS. I don't count Pacifista feats as well because in one feat, Luffy was calling the lasers "too slow", yet he's getting blitzed by a light man? Doesn't work like that. However, there are many characters who still showed feats against Kizaru. Rayleigh and Whitebeard intercepted Kizaru when he was in the middle of moving away, Marco intercepted his Yasakani no Magatama (quick google search lol), Luffy and Kizaru went into combat with each other and Sanji kicked his laser away.
Those are all feats when they are fully focused and use CoO, otherwise it wouldn't be possible for them to keep up with Kizaru.
So yet again, Fujitora is slower than G2? He is even using gravity which is fast enough to catch some meteors in space and pulling them over in a second. Fujitora might not have good mobility but he's definitely seeing attacks like Amaterasu and dodges them. Also, when Fujitora and Luffy fought with each other, it didn't look like he was moving like a snail whilst blocking everything else:
Furthermore, let's say Fujitora gets caught by Amaterasu, his gravity quickly tosses it off.
Xebec has a passive CoC defence which cancels other attacks out. Guess how was Imu capable to pierce him in the first place?
Whitebeard casually created massive tsunamis - caused by earthquakes - which DWARFED an island, no matter if the island is 500m or 2km in height at best, those tsunamis would create complete chaos in a country.
Besides, Idk if you included Naruto top tiers into your "with the top being planetary busters" because those characters are the true god tiers of this verse. Juubito isn't part of these god tiers. Neither are all the other Naruto top tiers.
Well, that's besides the point, you claimed Konan solos the current strongest character in One Piece because she used millions of paper bombs in preparation, lol. You know Zoro tanked an explosion with CoA defence even at the last second?
Cool, she almost killed Obito with it... You know BM Naruto would laugh this attack off?
Does it look like this mf is struggling to put himself together???
He was quickly putting himself back together again like nothing happened.
Also, I have no idea why it's an important criteria to chakra being more versatile than haki, it's not helping Konan either way when all she's good at is turning herself into pieces of paper or using paper bombs. What's next, chakra > ki cuz you can do more stuff with chakra? I don't see how that's relevant here. At the end, it comes down to abilities and stats - you believe she's strong enough to defeat an immortal being who embarrassed the strongest top tiers on this verse when she isn't even a Naruto top tier.
Additionally, chakra may be better in terms of versatility but only a handful of Naruto characters rarely use chakra defences on their body, with Kakuzu, Ay and 3rd Raikage being exceptions. Many shinobis cannot just easily coat their body into a strong armor to tank attacks. We've Azuma who coat his kunais with chakra to make them extra sharp but such technique are used on few specific characters with their designed element and do not nearly give the same flexibility like a Haki barrier which can be coated to... literally everything, be it light, lightning, lava, ice, smoke and so on. That's just basic CoA. Even random pirates can use that. Ryuo is basically like chakra flow but yet again, can be applied on everything as well.
So while Kishimoto chose a more restrictive way to implement these abilities into his characters, Oda chose a more simplistic way how his characters use their spiritual power in combination with their abilities.
It's clear you are clueless about powerlevel scaling in crossover battles.
If Imu engages in a physical battle with Xebec, it's enough proof he'd own a much weaker character like Konan. Usually, the author can decide the plot in his own story when weaker characters still get plotarmor but guess what, such rules don't exist in multiverse battles, unless the character has the ability of an author.
Imu didn't even bother to activate his Haki defence on all the top tiers who attacked him.
This chapter is proof CoC defence can cancel other attacks if they are too weak to penetrate through the defence. So if Imu tries, he'll tank it. What are you truly expecting? You believe millions of paper bombs have more energy than King's Jackpot which got tanked by Zoro, a character massively weaker than Imu?
Also, Obito is sucking himself in to teleport himself to another dimension, that's how Konan's paper bombs still caught up to him. She countered Obito's space & time ninjutsu due to specific circumstances. Do you think she would catch Minato in same sense who has instantelous teleportation? Obito's isn't instant.
Also, what Obito lost were his Zetsu limps, they can be quite fragile as we've learnt in his flashback.
Wdym, why should I even stop this? This was Pre TS Franky taking on such an explosion:
That's the island after the explosion:
Do you seriously believe Imu isn't taking that with all his defences on?
Also, like I said again, he regens without issues. Now you're just speculating around the fact that Imu regenerates from attacks and you believe there is some restrain around that for no basis. There is no argument around that one. None of the HK or Gorosei remotely showed to reach their limit when they regenerated their body.
Oda is usually trying to highlight their regeneration and honestly, why should they even bother to defend when they just eat attacks with no issues? You had Kuzan crumbling apart after Pre TS Luffy hit him many times but if Kuzan fights an opponent who can truly hurt him, he isn't betting on the chance his logia body takes it, he uses his Haki defence to mitigate the damage.
Gear 5 is ridiculous because of toonforce but we've seen Kizaru outspeeding Luffy several times when it comes to travel and attack speed.
It's because CoO always needs to be activated against Kizaru while being fully focused. A single distraction and he's quickly blitzing you - an actual character who moves with LS. I don't count Pacifista feats as well because in one feat, Luffy was calling the lasers "too slow", yet he's getting blitzed by a light man? Doesn't work like that. However, there are many characters who still showed feats against Kizaru. Rayleigh and Whitebeard intercepted Kizaru when he was in the middle of moving away, Marco intercepted his Yasakani no Magatama (quick google search lol), Luffy and Kizaru went into combat with each other and Sanji kicked his laser away.
Those are all feats when they are fully focused and use CoO, otherwise it wouldn't be possible for them to keep up with Kizaru.
So yet again, Fujitora is slower than G2? He is even using gravity which is fast enough to catch some meteors in space and pulling them over in a second. Fujitora might not have good mobility but he's definitely seeing attacks like Amaterasu and dodges them. Also, when Fujitora and Luffy fought with each other, it didn't look like he was moving like a snail whilst blocking everything else:
Furthermore, let's say Fujitora gets caught by Amaterasu, his gravity quickly tosses it off.
Xebec has a passive CoC defence which cancels other attacks out. Guess how was Imu capable to pierce him in the first place?
- Imu broke through Xebec's Haki defence
- Was capable to catch him mid-air, very casually
- At worst scales to the other OP top tiers when it comes to AP, durability and speed
- Seriously gave no fuck at 5 top tier signature attacks, even when one of them previously showed to own the leader of the Holy Knights who has high regen as well.
Whitebeard casually created massive tsunamis - caused by earthquakes - which DWARFED an island, no matter if the island is 500m or 2km in height at best, those tsunamis would create complete chaos in a country.
Besides, Idk if you included Naruto top tiers into your "with the top being planetary busters" because those characters are the true god tiers of this verse. Juubito isn't part of these god tiers. Neither are all the other Naruto top tiers.
Well, that's besides the point, you claimed Konan solos the current strongest character in One Piece because she used millions of paper bombs in preparation, lol. You know Zoro tanked an explosion with CoA defence even at the last second?
Cool, she almost killed Obito with it... You know BM Naruto would laugh this attack off?
Does it look like this mf is struggling to put himself together???
He was quickly putting himself back together again like nothing happened.
Also, I have no idea why it's an important criteria to chakra being more versatile than haki, it's not helping Konan either way when all she's good at is turning herself into pieces of paper or using paper bombs. What's next, chakra > ki cuz you can do more stuff with chakra? I don't see how that's relevant here. At the end, it comes down to abilities and stats - you believe she's strong enough to defeat an immortal being who embarrassed the strongest top tiers on this verse when she isn't even a Naruto top tier.
Additionally, chakra may be better in terms of versatility but only a handful of Naruto characters rarely use chakra defences on their body, with Kakuzu, Ay and 3rd Raikage being exceptions. Many shinobis cannot just easily coat their body into a strong armor to tank attacks. We've Azuma who coat his kunais with chakra to make them extra sharp but such technique are used on few specific characters with their designed element and do not nearly give the same flexibility like a Haki barrier which can be coated to... literally everything, be it light, lightning, lava, ice, smoke and so on. That's just basic CoA. Even random pirates can use that. Ryuo is basically like chakra flow but yet again, can be applied on everything as well.
So while Kishimoto chose a more restrictive way to implement these abilities into his characters, Oda chose a more simplistic way how his characters use their spiritual power in combination with their abilities.
It's clear you are clueless about powerlevel scaling in crossover battles.
If Imu engages in a physical battle with Xebec, it's enough proof he'd own a much weaker character like Konan. Usually, the author can decide the plot in his own story when weaker characters still get plotarmor but guess what, such rules don't exist in multiverse battles, unless the character has the ability of an author.
Imu didn't even bother to activate his Haki defence on all the top tiers who attacked him.
This chapter is proof CoC defence can cancel other attacks if they are too weak to penetrate through the defence. So if Imu tries, he'll tank it. What are you truly expecting? You believe millions of paper bombs have more energy than King's Jackpot which got tanked by Zoro, a character massively weaker than Imu?
Also, Obito is sucking himself in to teleport himself to another dimension, that's how Konan's paper bombs still caught up to him. She countered Obito's space & time ninjutsu due to specific circumstances. Do you think she would catch Minato in same sense who has instantelous teleportation? Obito's isn't instant.
Also, what Obito lost were his Zetsu limps, they can be quite fragile as we've learnt in his flashback.
Wdym, why should I even stop this? This was Pre TS Franky taking on such an explosion:
That's the island after the explosion:
Do you seriously believe Imu isn't taking that with all his defences on?
Also, like I said again, he regens without issues. Now you're just speculating around the fact that Imu regenerates from attacks and you believe there is some restrain around that for no basis. There is no argument around that one. None of the HK or Gorosei remotely showed to reach their limit when they regenerated their body.
Oda is usually trying to highlight their regeneration and honestly, why should they even bother to defend when they just eat attacks with no issues? You had Kuzan crumbling apart after Pre TS Luffy hit him many times but if Kuzan fights an opponent who can truly hurt him, he isn't betting on the chance his logia body takes it, he uses his Haki defence to mitigate the damage.
The among of braindead takes is funny here.
The way how many people try to use antifeats yet refuse to do the same for Naruto, is funny.
Should I remind people how Sasuke need to use sharigan and was struggle against a fucking dino?
This is one of be said god tiers of the verse.
Imagine how he reacts to Ulti who is 1000x to that trash Dino who was fast for Sasuke..
Don´t let me use more antifeats of Naruto.
These are irrelevant and doesn´t matter, same as the "antifeats" in one Piece.
Kizaru traveled a island in a blink of sec, which is a far better travelspeed feat than anything we saw in Naruto.
Fujitora gravity can reach the fucking space in a sec of time, taking meteorites down.
The last time I saw "godtiers" of Naruto verse fighting gravity power based people, ended like this:
Imagine if Imu was threated like this, we wouldn´t hear the end of it.
The fact "god" tiers in Naruto struggle against simple gravity power make it funny because I don´t want even imagine how they react to Fujitora gravity which is most likely far stronger.
The way how many people try to use antifeats yet refuse to do the same for Naruto, is funny.
Should I remind people how Sasuke need to use sharigan and was struggle against a fucking dino?
This is one of be said god tiers of the verse.
Imagine how he reacts to Ulti who is 1000x to that trash Dino who was fast for Sasuke..
Don´t let me use more antifeats of Naruto.
These are irrelevant and doesn´t matter, same as the "antifeats" in one Piece.
Kizaru traveled a island in a blink of sec, which is a far better travelspeed feat than anything we saw in Naruto.
Fujitora gravity can reach the fucking space in a sec of time, taking meteorites down.
The last time I saw "godtiers" of Naruto verse fighting gravity power based people, ended like this:
Imagine if Imu was threated like this, we wouldn´t hear the end of it.
The fact "god" tiers in Naruto struggle against simple gravity power make it funny because I don´t want even imagine how they react to Fujitora gravity which is most likely far stronger.
The among of braindead takes is funny here.
The way how many people try to use antifeats yet refuse to do the same for Naruto, is funny.
Should I remind people how Sasuke need to use sharigan and was struggle against a fucking dino?
This is one of be said god tiers of the verse.
Imagine how he reacts to Ulti who is 1000x to that trash Dino who was fast for Sasuke..
Don´t let me use more antifeats of Naruto.
These are irrelevant and doesn´t matter, same as the "antifeats" in one Piece.
Kizaru traveled a island in a blink of sec, which is a far better travelspeed feat than anything we saw in Naruto.
Fujitora gravity can reach the fucking space in a sec of time, taking meteorites down.
The last time I saw "godtiers" of Naruto verse fighting gravity power based people, ended like this:
Imagine if Imu was threated like this, we wouldn´t hear the end of it.
The fact "god" tiers in Naruto struggle against simple gravity power make it funny because I don´t want even imagine how they react to Fujitora gravity which is most likely far stronger.
The way how many people try to use antifeats yet refuse to do the same for Naruto, is funny.
Should I remind people how Sasuke need to use sharigan and was struggle against a fucking dino?
This is one of be said god tiers of the verse.
Imagine how he reacts to Ulti who is 1000x to that trash Dino who was fast for Sasuke..
Don´t let me use more antifeats of Naruto.
These are irrelevant and doesn´t matter, same as the "antifeats" in one Piece.
Kizaru traveled a island in a blink of sec, which is a far better travelspeed feat than anything we saw in Naruto.
Fujitora gravity can reach the fucking space in a sec of time, taking meteorites down.
The last time I saw "godtiers" of Naruto verse fighting gravity power based people, ended like this:
Imagine if Imu was threated like this, we wouldn´t hear the end of it.
The fact "god" tiers in Naruto struggle against simple gravity power make it funny because I don´t want even imagine how they react to Fujitora gravity which is most likely far stronger.
The among of braindead takes is funny here.
The way how many people try to use antifeats yet refuse to do the same for Naruto, is funny.
Should I remind people how Sasuke need to use sharigan and was struggle against a fucking dino?
This is one of be said god tiers of the verse.
Imagine how he reacts to Ulti who is 1000x to that trash Dino who was fast for Sasuke..
Don´t let me use more antifeats of Naruto.
These are irrelevant and doesn´t matter, same as the "antifeats" in one Piece.
Kizaru traveled a island in a blink of sec, which is a far better travelspeed feat than anything we saw in Naruto.
Fujitora gravity can reach the fucking space in a sec of time, taking meteorites down.
The last time I saw "godtiers" of Naruto verse fighting gravity power based people, ended like this:
Imagine if Imu was threated like this, we wouldn´t hear the end of it.
The fact "god" tiers in Naruto struggle against simple gravity power make it funny because I don´t want even imagine how they react to Fujitora gravity which is most likely far stronger.
The way how many people try to use antifeats yet refuse to do the same for Naruto, is funny.
Should I remind people how Sasuke need to use sharigan and was struggle against a fucking dino?
This is one of be said god tiers of the verse.
Imagine how he reacts to Ulti who is 1000x to that trash Dino who was fast for Sasuke..
Don´t let me use more antifeats of Naruto.
These are irrelevant and doesn´t matter, same as the "antifeats" in one Piece.
Kizaru traveled a island in a blink of sec, which is a far better travelspeed feat than anything we saw in Naruto.
Fujitora gravity can reach the fucking space in a sec of time, taking meteorites down.
The last time I saw "godtiers" of Naruto verse fighting gravity power based people, ended like this:
Imagine if Imu was threated like this, we wouldn´t hear the end of it.
The fact "god" tiers in Naruto struggle against simple gravity power make it funny because I don´t want even imagine how they react to Fujitora gravity which is most likely far stronger.
