General & Others All Blue

[Shanal]

and @Shanal in his younger days WB was subordinate of a crew.. he was a subordinate of Rox too..

it not about subordination is about what he did to achieve his dream

I never said it has anything to do with subordination lol. Zoro is Luffy's subordinate.

Like, there are more subordinates with CoC than there are pure captains. Roger and Luffy and Chinjao I think are literally the only CoC users who have always been captains and nothing else. Mihawk, too, if he has it.

 

[Finalbeta]

Why would it be harder? 🤔

 

[BleakAsh]

I never said it has anything to do with subordination lol. Zoro is Luffy's subordinate.

Like, there are more subordinates with CoC than there are pure captains. Roger and Luffy and Chinjao I think are literally the only CoC users who have always been captains and nothing else. Mihawk, too, if he has it.

what i assume KINGLY ambitions mean is the desire to conquer something

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

That’s not true. The difference between Sanji Luffy and Zoro isn’t how much they cared about their dream it’s whether they found something more important to them than their dream.

Sanji chose Zeff over himself and his dream. Mihawk stated himself that when those with strong will lower themselves they do it for another.

Sanji chose Zeff and his dream over himself. Zoro did the same later for Luffy and his dream. We saw that sanji still had the will to die to protect that which was close to him when Zeff was held at gunpoint Sanji didn’t hesitate to risk his life to protect it.

Zeff litearlly told Sanji to GTFO lol
Sanji just a papa boy, can't get enouh of his Daddy replacement Zeff the Cook

 

[stealthblack]

Sanji Best doream ever. Beyond Pk and WSS Bs

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

why people down play all blue and say trying to find it is not "kingly ambition"

Because when it comes to Sanji and Sanji alone, he doesn't receive a free pass unlike other characters. People will find their ways to try to downplay Sanji as much as possible. Why? Dunno.

Finding All Blue is like trying to conquer the sea itself. Not only you have to bring your ass out into the ocean trying to look for it which requires immense willpower, you also have to destroys the Red Line which requires strength to do it. And despite all of that, the 4 seas might not even jointed correctly which requires intelligence to prevent any fatal mistakes. Sanji have the willpower, strength and intelligence to find the All Blue. What matters is the time.

Trying to become the WSS only requires willpower and strength, no intelligence involved. Trying to become the PK involves willpower and strength, maybe intelligence too but we all know that Luffy and Roger ain't the smartest characters there is. That's why they needed Oden and Robin.

"But but, how can finding a pond of fishes be considered kingly ambition? No one gives a shit about it."

Yeah, just like how nobody gives a shit about WSS title bar Mihawk and Zoro. At least the All Blue got hints on being linked with the One Piece which is a harder path than becoming the WSS itself.

 

[The White Crane]

Because when it comes to Sanji and Sanji alone, he doesn't receive a free pass unlike other characters. People will find their ways to try to downplay Sanji as much as possible. Why? Dunno.

Finding All Blue is like trying to conquer the sea itself. Not only you have to bring your ass out into the ocean trying to look for it which requires immense willpower, you also have to destroys the Red Line which requires strength to do it. And despite all of that, the 4 seas might not even jointed correctly which requires intelligence to prevent any fatal mistakes. Sanji have the willpower, strength and intelligence to find the All Blue. What matters is the time.

Trying to become the WSS only requires willpower and strength, no intelligence involved. Trying to become the PK involves willpower and strength, maybe intelligence too but we all know that Luffy and Roger ain't the smartest characters there is. That's why they needed Oden and Robin.

"But but, how can finding a pond of fishes be considered kingly ambition? No one gives a shit about it."

Yeah, just like how nobody gives a shit about WSS title bar Mihawk and Zoro. At least the All Blue got hints on being linked with the One Piece which is a harder path than becoming the WSS itself.

Firstly, wdym finding all blue requires destroying Red Line?

Secondly, any brute without intelligence would not even make it close to being WSS.

Thirdly, who is the character on your profile pic?

 

[Vongola Primo]

Finding the All Blue is the greatest dream in One Piece, this is implied by the order in which the strawhats proclaim their dream in the barrel scene. Sanji goes last, with Luffy going second to last... which means All Blue > Pirate King

 

[Verq]

Sure finding it is impressive but what can you do with all blue except maybe cook some colorful fish. Finding the one piece on the other hand is meeting the requirement to become the next king of the pirates, also all the gold and riches roger supposedly left. I don't think these two ambitions are even comparable in degree

 

[Malio]

Finding All Blue as your ambition is literally like trying to find one piece... or even harder, no one has ever found that and no one beside few people believe that exsists, at least One piece is confirmed to be Real and you know how to find it but thats not the case for all blue, why people down play all blue and say trying to find it is not "kingly ambition"

"I'll find the All Blue and I'll be the Pirate cook."

 

[Herrera95]

You are right. All Blue most likely even harder to find than One Piece.

So hard that could actually be just a kids Dream, so pure and ignorant about the reality of the World.

Kids can dream much things that doesn't make sense. That doesn't make them have Kingly Ambitions.

Not saying that is literally the case so Sanji won't have CoC. If All Blue truly existis he must have it. If doesn't, then it doesn't.

 

[Screws Loose242]

Because Sanji doesn't consider it as much of a dream compared to others. Luffy has ALWAYS wanted to be Pirate King, and everything he does was to achieve that goal. Zoro has ALWAYS wanted to be WSS, and has never let go, their dreams are always in their minds when they fight.
Sanji was completely content with being a cook in Baratie, happy even, his childhood dream wasn't "find All Blue" but more like become a chef and escape his shitty family. Finding All Blue is a great dream and aligns with Luffy's a lot that much is obvious, but the portrayal of it isn't on the level of Luffy and Zoro.

U full of ish zoro and luffy both gave up on there dreams before, and sanji never gave up on his dream just because he with zeff, after all sanji try to find all blue Is the hard thing to do

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They just Down play sanji because of the hate for him we're as sanji dream to find the all blue is a hard journey because you do need power & intelligence because without power you be over come by the strong enemies that will get In your way, & without intelligence you won't really know what to look for or see clues leading you there if you come across them