General & Others Among The 3 Fights Which is objectively the Best One?
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Technically yes, but he really has a point.
Luffy vs Kaido, I mean, all the fake outs, asspulls, and the way Kaido went out. Horrible.
Law and Kidd vs Big Mom, Mrs. Yonko forgets to use AdvCoC Haki and basically allowed Kidd and Law to push her around like a ragdoll before finally throwing her onto bombs.
Zoro vs King, fake tension, King basically having nothing to offer from a character/fighter standpoint, boring ass hur dur Ptero Karate Kid, and Zoro keeps losing until he gets AdvCoC where he takes total control over the fight until the end.
It is really a battle of "which was the least bad".
Luffy vs Kaido, I mean, all the fake outs, asspulls, and the way Kaido went out. Horrible.
Law and Kidd vs Big Mom, Mrs. Yonko forgets to use AdvCoC Haki and basically allowed Kidd and Law to push her around like a ragdoll before finally throwing her onto bombs.
Zoro vs King, fake tension, King basically having nothing to offer from a character/fighter standpoint, boring ass hur dur Ptero Karate Kid, and Zoro keeps losing until he gets AdvCoC where he takes total control over the fight until the end.
It is really a battle of "which was the least bad".
How is it hate when it's true? Zoro continues to one shot his opponents after taking all the damage. Kaido and Luffy needs no explanation on why it is horrid. Big Mom vs Law/Kidd probably the worst fight in all of One Piece where Oda was like fuck Big Mom and fuck every narrative I have already established prior.
Only good fight in Wano was Zoro vs the samari fodders in the start of Wano.
Only good fight in Wano was Zoro vs the samari fodders in the start of Wano.
The worst one by far is big mom. Dog sh*t dosen't begin to describe it. I've seen better teamwork in naruto, bc, jjk, hxh without making the enemy look retarded. A healty bm lost to a damaged kid and law. Why couldn't she awaken, spam advcoc, use coo?
King vs zoro is so overrated. The choegraphy is mediocre like many of zoro's fight. Zoro has a harder match against emma than king.
Luffy vs kaido wasnt all thay either, but the choegraphy is miles better than the other 2. Kaido fighting style was mediocre. Ending was ass.
Luffy vs kaido>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zoro vs king>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other fight in onigashima>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kid and law vs bm
King vs zoro is so overrated. The choegraphy is mediocre like many of zoro's fight. Zoro has a harder match against emma than king.
Luffy vs kaido wasnt all thay either, but the choegraphy is miles better than the other 2. Kaido fighting style was mediocre. Ending was ass.
Luffy vs kaido>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zoro vs king>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other fight in onigashima>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kid and law vs bm
Luffy vs kaido was too repetitive for me, with the Goofy v. Kaido stuff having too many similar panels and generally unexciting choreography. The Drunk Modes for Kaido were neat but the attitude of the fight then was a little too cheerful with both enjoying their combat. Really killed suspense for me. Not the weakest fight on Onigashima but definitely down there for me.
Linlin vs the Supernova might be the worst fight, Linlin fought like a clown, Kidd is thoroughly uninteresting with his fruit and his fighting style and added virtually nothing to the story. Law's OPness was okay, good visually, but that's about it.
King vs Zoro was fun because it had Zoro on the backfoot in a 1v1 for the first time since maybe Daz Bones? I haven't reread Kaku v. Zoro in a long time but I recall Zoro being mostly on par with Kaku and overpowering him at the end. King v. Zoro was too short though, the last chapter could've easily been two independent chapters so it suffers from being very rushed.
Out of the three, I favor the last because it was more visually interesting and Zoro's commitment to his goal and the flashback he had was pretty good.
Linlin vs the Supernova might be the worst fight, Linlin fought like a clown, Kidd is thoroughly uninteresting with his fruit and his fighting style and added virtually nothing to the story. Law's OPness was okay, good visually, but that's about it.
King vs Zoro was fun because it had Zoro on the backfoot in a 1v1 for the first time since maybe Daz Bones? I haven't reread Kaku v. Zoro in a long time but I recall Zoro being mostly on par with Kaku and overpowering him at the end. King v. Zoro was too short though, the last chapter could've easily been two independent chapters so it suffers from being very rushed.
Out of the three, I favor the last because it was more visually interesting and Zoro's commitment to his goal and the flashback he had was pretty good.
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Kid/Law vs Big Mom was dogshit only showing highlights, using haki off screen and on Page One, Kidd and Law's haki barely highlighted now apparently Law learned a thing or two since back then like... how about maybe show it to us during the onigashima fight?
Luffy vs Kaido was good, especially once drunken kaido came into picture, but their final attacks sucked balls with all these interferences from other characters, droped quality considerably
Zoro vs King was good but the Lunarian gimmic is stupid as fuck, and/or Oda sucks balls at explaining shit correctly. There's virtually zero reason for King to turn off his flame mode willingly to a speed mode. That would make far more sense if let's say after he uses a fire attack that's whete his defense drops at that moment, but uses his wings to increase his speed and generste the fire on his back. To some extend at least.
Or straight up drop that idea, simply have him burst into flames, like too much of unexplained and vague shit, things that don't make sense, not a fan of that.
Overall I can't vote any of the three, but the worst is the Big Mom fight.
Luffy vs Kaido was good, especially once drunken kaido came into picture, but their final attacks sucked balls with all these interferences from other characters, droped quality considerably
Zoro vs King was good but the Lunarian gimmic is stupid as fuck, and/or Oda sucks balls at explaining shit correctly. There's virtually zero reason for King to turn off his flame mode willingly to a speed mode. That would make far more sense if let's say after he uses a fire attack that's whete his defense drops at that moment, but uses his wings to increase his speed and generste the fire on his back. To some extend at least.
Or straight up drop that idea, simply have him burst into flames, like too much of unexplained and vague shit, things that don't make sense, not a fan of that.
Overall I can't vote any of the three, but the worst is the Big Mom fight.
Zoro vs king had awesome beginning. Average middle with plot holes. And Shitty ending.
Kid and law vs big mom was mostly offscreened at the beginning. The middle was everyone using their big moves to hit each other for some knock out break. It looked good but no fight choreography at all. The ending was pretty damn great.
Luffy vs kaido started out good. With great set piece moment. Then got offscreened with luffy getting thrown away from onigashima. Then return match of them weirdly smiling at each other.
It took away the seriousness from the moment. G5 was unique I suppose.
Luffy vs kaido I guess barely wins out.
Kid and law vs big mom was mostly offscreened at the beginning. The middle was everyone using their big moves to hit each other for some knock out break. It looked good but no fight choreography at all. The ending was pretty damn great.
Luffy vs kaido started out good. With great set piece moment. Then got offscreened with luffy getting thrown away from onigashima. Then return match of them weirdly smiling at each other.
It took away the seriousness from the moment. G5 was unique I suppose.
Luffy vs kaido I guess barely wins out.
1. Zoro vs King. Action was great. Flashback sequence where Zoro unlocked KoH was really excellent, a bit more of Zoro’s past tied in with a lot of his journey that we’ve seen throughout the series. King was a pretty interesting opponent with a cool fighting style and introducing Lunarians seems to be pretty important for endgame.
My only two issues with it are that I feel it could have done with one more chapter, and King was poorly utilised until just before the fight began.
2. Luffy vs Kaido. Definitely had it’s strong moments, but also held down by a lot of things. It was a bit too long and repetitive. If we consider all the fights before it, how many times did we have Kaido be “oh, these guys can actually hurt me?“ Kind of lost it’s lustre. The ending was also an atrocious damp squib. Bajrang Gun is the single worst final hit Oda has ever drawn for a Luffy fight. Anti-climax galore. I hate the Nika fruit but like G5. However, I did like a lot of the Luffy fighting Kaido one on one bit, and Kaido got some decent lines. Drunk Kaido was fun.
3. Kid and Law vs Big Mom. It just… wasn’t very good. Firstly there’s the issue with the entire contrived situation of Big Mom being on Wano just to write her out of the plot. It was all sloppy seconds. Big Mom had all the build up with Luffy, Kid and Law had all the build up with Kaido. But Lufy vs Kaido was the main event so they were just chucked together. Nobody is going to be able to convince me that the original plan was not for a 3 vs 1 against Kaido.
The action was terrible. So repetitive. Big Mom attacks Kid. Law attacks Big Mom. Kid follows up. That’s every phase in the entire fight. Big Mom’s actually impressive feat of beating up the two of them was totally offpanelled. Kid’s Awakening was actual lols, it was something everyone thought he would be able to do anyway. Law’s ability to silence Big Mom is complete plot induced nonsense, it’s Mayuri pulling out counters to fit the situation out of his ass levels. I don’t know why on earth Oda couldn’t just let Damned Punk knock her into the hole and he needed to have Big Mom stumbling around on her way down, it just made Kid and Law look shit. I made fake spoilers that week and I genuinely made Kid look better.
My only two issues with it are that I feel it could have done with one more chapter, and King was poorly utilised until just before the fight began.
2. Luffy vs Kaido. Definitely had it’s strong moments, but also held down by a lot of things. It was a bit too long and repetitive. If we consider all the fights before it, how many times did we have Kaido be “oh, these guys can actually hurt me?“ Kind of lost it’s lustre. The ending was also an atrocious damp squib. Bajrang Gun is the single worst final hit Oda has ever drawn for a Luffy fight. Anti-climax galore. I hate the Nika fruit but like G5. However, I did like a lot of the Luffy fighting Kaido one on one bit, and Kaido got some decent lines. Drunk Kaido was fun.
3. Kid and Law vs Big Mom. It just… wasn’t very good. Firstly there’s the issue with the entire contrived situation of Big Mom being on Wano just to write her out of the plot. It was all sloppy seconds. Big Mom had all the build up with Luffy, Kid and Law had all the build up with Kaido. But Lufy vs Kaido was the main event so they were just chucked together. Nobody is going to be able to convince me that the original plan was not for a 3 vs 1 against Kaido.
The action was terrible. So repetitive. Big Mom attacks Kid. Law attacks Big Mom. Kid follows up. That’s every phase in the entire fight. Big Mom’s actually impressive feat of beating up the two of them was totally offpanelled. Kid’s Awakening was actual lols, it was something everyone thought he would be able to do anyway. Law’s ability to silence Big Mom is complete plot induced nonsense, it’s Mayuri pulling out counters to fit the situation out of his ass levels. I don’t know why on earth Oda couldn’t just let Damned Punk knock her into the hole and he needed to have Big Mom stumbling around on her way down, it just made Kid and Law look shit. I made fake spoilers that week and I genuinely made Kid look better.
Can’t be objective honestly Zoro and king was the best imo.
Luffy vs Kaido was bad. The ending was a huge let down and despite some good choreography the fight was heavily hurt by Kaido just being a bad character and awkward dialogue.
Big Mom fight was less of a fight and more of a show off of abilities
Zoro vs King at least felt like a full fight from struggle to power up to characterization to completion.
Luffy vs Kaido was bad. The ending was a huge let down and despite some good choreography the fight was heavily hurt by Kaido just being a bad character and awkward dialogue.
Big Mom fight was less of a fight and more of a show off of abilities
Zoro vs King at least felt like a full fight from struggle to power up to characterization to completion.