Questions & Mysteries Aramaki’s Past: How Many Top Tiers Have We Not Met in the OP World?

[Dragon777]

I like thinking that he and Fujitora were exceptional anomalies/the strongest warriors in their respective Countries (like Kyros for DR or, better, Kaido).
I don't think that there are many of these monsters around. In fact, I think that from now till the end we won't see any other like them. Fuji ad Ryo were created because the plot needed them; without that, these two wouldn't have existed.

Realistically, Oda didn't even bother himself with a proper explanation.
For some reason, he didn't foresee the necessity to have two strong characters ready to become new admirals at the end of the first part of the manga. When he was presented with that necessity, he created two new characters out of the blue. For example, if he had planned beforehand, he could have said that two very strong VA were stationed permanently in the New World for defence against the Emperors and Rev, so they weren't present at Marienford.

Nonetheless, if I had to imagine a possible background, I'd say:

1) extreme strong anomalies and likely the absolute top warriors of their respective nations, like Kaido, Kyros (not strength-wise, I mean position-wise), etc...

2) very, very famous bounty hunters maybe.

 

[Chiji_]

There could be so many just by the fact they can just have a draft like this to find ppl strong enough to be admirals out of the blue, ppl needed to combat emperor class pirates upon hire. It’s a scary to think about but the world is vast.

 

[Garp the Fist]

I like Aramaki as an ex-bounty hunter, that fits his personality so far.

One that got pissed off that he used to only get half pay or whatever it was for bringing in bounties dead.

Issho, a powerful solider for a World Gov nation that was horrified when one of the Warlords destroyed his island (maybe at a Reverie in the past where he was away guarding his king) and got away with it due to either already being a Warlord or agreeing to become one.

Don’t think there will be many remaining unmet top tiers though. Big Mom’s flashback, Hajrudin’s dream and the fact that Dorry and Broggy are still main legendary figures kind of implies to me that there isn’t any on Elbaf right now. A CP-0 leader has a good shot of being one though.

 

[Rackham]

Booze enjoyer. Smoker. Loves ladies. Shows appeciation for no-half-measures approach. Dresses informal.

From these few informations I'd say he was a pretty wild man before joining the Navy.
Seen his evident fighting experience, I lean toward bounty hunter (about time).
Probably one who prefered the dead part of it rather than the alive.

Other Top Tiers? Shiki, Silver-Axe, CP-0 Leader, Scopper Gaban, Kong...

 

[Finalbeta]

Too many to count

 

[King7]

He seems extremely battle hardened from the fact that he has a black blade,

I'm not sure he blackened it by himself , but it's possible because he's based on a swordsman even stronger than Kizaru's and Fujitora's actors ( Kunie Tanaka & Shintaro Katsu ) in the Movie which all 3 of them starred together as swordsmen ( at least based on the thread Kinyagi posted ) .

where did Aramaki come from?

No idea , but my feeling ? West Blue , there is no top tier Marine from there yet :

Old Gen : Kong = unknown | Sengoku = South Blue | Garp = East Blue

Mid Gen : Kizaru & Akainu = North Blue | Fujitora = Grand Line ( Vivre Card ) | Aokiji = South Blue

New Gen : Sabo & Coby = East Blue

Aramaki = West Blue ?

What was he doing before he was drafted into the Marines?

For now i agree with Kinyagi , Bounty Hunter .

how many Yonko/Admiral level individuals are lying in wait that we have never even heard of? Are their dozens? Hundreds?

Maybe there are still more top tiers out there outside of the Yonko/Marines/Worst Gen/Former Warlords , but i guess only a few at best because top tiers are anomalies .

Or have we pretty much met all of the top tier characters we’re going to meet at this point?

Possible , because if there are still top tiers outside of Yonko/Marines/Worst Gen/Former Warlords , what roles are they going to play in the Final Saga that's starting next chapter ? I'm not sure Oda has taken them into account , and this is assuming Oda has made them exist , in the first place .

Is top tier strength something that we have yet to fully understand the scope of?

Yes not yet , for example Admirals' offense ( true strongest attacks ) are gonna be >> Big Mom's/Kaido's .

More specifically , Akainu definitely has something that's >> Kaido's Flame Dragon , his DF is also a really strong DF like Kaido's ( i think stronger than Kaido's DF even ) , but making large-scale heat attacks like Flame Dragon is one of the things it can do best ; it's bound to surpass that strongest attack of Kaido .

Same thing with Fujitora ; he's bound to be capable of surpassing Kaido lifting Onigashima ; his DF is a top tier DF and it's made to lift things up , he likely can lift something heavier than Onigashima .

But well of course Fuji can do some other things : he can pull even bigger Asteroids , crushing an island with strengthened downward Gravity , his Awakened attacks are bound to match Awakened attacks of the Logia Trio as well .
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Edit : i believe there are stronger top tiers out there than Kaido as well - at least Teach/Akainu/Dragon/Mihawk/Shanks .

I don't buy Kaido's WSC rumour .

Also there is of course Imu ; who i view as potentially Uranus , the Strongest Ancient Weapon imo . Although well yeah ..... maybe he/she won't be classified as a "top tier" , but something greater .

 

[GoldDiamond]

I'm not sure he blackened it by himself , but it's possible because he's based on a swordsman even stronger than Kizaru's and Fujitora's actors ( Kunie Tanaka & Shintaro Katsu ) in the Movie which all 3 of them starred together as swordsmen ( at least based on the thread Kinyagi posted ) .

Isn't fujitora just based on shintaro katsui zatoichi and not the entire acto himself?

 

[King7]

Isn't fujitora just based on shintaro katsui zatoichi and not the entire acto himself?

More specifically , i think yes . But i'm not sure if this Zatoichi character was in the movie in which Kizaru's and Ryokugyu's actors starred as well ( i have not watched any Japanese film ) .

@AdmiralKinyagi did Shintaro Katsu play as Zatoichi in that movie with Kunie Tanaka and Yoshio Harada ? In that movie called "Ronin Gai" ? or whatever it's title is .

 

[SakazOuki]

I feel like Gb was kicked from service a couple years ago for insubordination and cruelty.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Nw islands seem to have a couple
know for a fact without kaido's intervention
oden in wano should have been one

perhaps one in elbaf as well.

 

[Jailer]

There's over 190 kingdoms in OP, a couple of them seem to be housing powerhouses mainly those kingdoms in the new world it seems, pretty sure the same process to recruit was there for Akainu, Kizaru etc., similarly they tried to get Kaido on board in his youth to join the navy ranks. Or Big Mom.

Same case with Fuji and Ryo but in an open military draft. Their respective Kingdoms probably gave approval to hand them over as a tribute to pay the WG or some shit.

Also lol, Fujitora has pride on being a marine too, it's just that he aint as afraid as Akainu for changes.

 

[Finalbeta]

It's Loda so he will make it look like most were encountered already I bet

 

[MarineHQ]

I still expect there to be a handful of individuals not tied to any major faction that are around YC1 level or above.

You just know that years after OP manga concluded such characters will pop up for movies or even a continuation of the show.

 

[Dark Admiral]

he along with Fujitora was drafted VIA world military draft meaning they were on other forces of WG apart from Navy.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Following absolute justice, taking credit for others, doing as you're told by the World Government, and just mindlessly hunting down criminals without any application of context is not the only way to be a Marine lol.

@Bold, simply letting an ongoing conflict happen without taking part in it.. isn't receiving help from criminals my guy.

-> Not sure what this has to do with the Marines. This was his point against the World Government which allowed the Warlord System to exist and then continously overlooked the BS caused by the warlords. The result being fellow Marines not being able to take action. So what was his solution? Get Doflamingo defeated & then how the incompetency of the World Government, that allowed the people of Dressrosa to suffer.

-> Yes he publicly apologized to King Riku on behalf of the World Government, not the Marines. It was his pride as a soldier, as a marine... who's job is to protect the people. That led to him doing this:

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He's making a statement, they the Marines who serve the people. Not the World Government's bitches. No man with pride wants to be given credit for shit they didn't do. His entire "abolishing the warlords" stems from his pride as a Marine.

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This Marine officers talking about his actions righting the wrong that was done to them by the World Government. Other marines are taking pride in him, but he's not taking pride as a marine?

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Is like the gangsta said if admittance of one mistake leads to you losing your face/trust/pride then my dawg you ain't had none in the first place. Taking a stance against the World Government for your fellow marines and so you could properly do your job as a marine isn't being a prideful marine? Come on bruhz.


Mans saying he don't need the Warlords, "scum of the sea" as Sengoku once put em. He don't wanna work with pirates who fuck up people's countries. Unlike the Fleet Admiral of the marines who supposedly hates criminals/pirates the most, but actually wanted to work with them.

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This is the man who doesn't have any pride as a marine.. telling the Fleet Admiral of the marines who'd rather had Warlords continue to be under the WG... that yo TRUST The SSG, aka TRUST the Marines. But he lacks pride as a marine.. right.

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Dude out here leaving lower ranking marine officers shook, by setting up correct on what a Marine's duty is. It's not to go around hunting down criminals, it's to protect the people. The former being a an action sometimes taken to achieve the latter. That's not a prideful marine?

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This is a man who's been in the Navy for about a year or so and is leaving long time marines stunned due to his ideology and stance against the World Government as a Marine. Yea he could take down Doflamingo, which again doesn't solve the issue, instead only covers it up.

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Idk how you can say the man who pushes for Marine self-reliance and independence the most so Marines can do their jobs properly is the one that doesn't take pride in being a marine. Especially when other marines are taking pride in him. Lowering your head for admitting the mistakes done by you higherups or even by you doesn't lower one's pride.



I think what you might've meant was he lacks arrogance or egotism as a marine. Cause pride def. ain't the thing he lacking.

Spot on.
My guy knows what he's talking about.

 

[Garps tekkai]

I think it's not even that unlikely that stuff like this is just a thing.
In RL your parcel carrier can be an ex amateur boxer or wrestler and you might not even notice.
Some of the most successful MMA champs went from low paying jobs to future title holders.
Even those beasts have to make a living afterall.

I think it's easy to justify that stuff, cause there are a lot of people that practice and try to perfect an art just for the sake of it.
The scabbards for example became high tiers w/o any challenging fights, just by training with each other. Haki is learn- and trainable, DFs are trainable aswell.
Look at guys like Denjiro or Hyogoro. Now give them S-class DFs and they become incredibly powerful.
I'd bet that Mihawk was already a monster before he even got famous. Zoro could have learned haki from Koushirou and could have went out into the world as a high tier.

It's just especially those guys happened to eat two of the most powerful DFs, just like Enel or Kuma, which is what makes them extra special.

Overall I think there won't be that much left though. Being a Top Tier is extremely difficult and I think there are only a limited amount of DF abilities that can make you one and they have to be owned by guys that are extremely powerful by themselves, otherwise you end up being a Foxy kinda guy.

 

[VersusPhD]

I'm still banking on Dr. Vegapunk being a top tier. I mean it only makes sense to keep the best high-tech gadgetry for yourself, right?
Hopefully the CP0 boss ends up being a new character and is an admiral/emperor leveled fighter.

 

[Jonny Will]

So, this is something many have speculated on in the OP community, but Aramaki has me especially intrigued.

This man is a fan of Sakazuki’s extreme brand of justice, and also openly refers to himself among the Marines when he says “we marines”, showing imo that he does have some level of pride in himself now being a marine unlike Fujitora.

He seems extremely battle hardened from the fact that he has a black blade, to the fact that he apprehended both King and Queen along with others with ease, to the fact that not even an alliance that took down two Emperors is enough to deter him from attacking.

So this begs the question: where did Aramaki come from? What was he doing before he was drafted into the Marines? We can assume he never joined the Navy before Sakazuki became Fleet Admiral because he viewed the Navy as being “too soft” for his liking, but how was such a powerful figure lying in wait in the OP world, and he seemingly never made major moves against any major pirates or other criminals? I know the OP world is a huge place, but you would think a guy who can easily defeat top Yonko crew members while also not fearing the Yonko would’ve made ripples that we would’ve heard of before now.

And this brings into question a more broad topic: how many Yonko/Admiral level individuals are lying in wait that we have never even heard of? Are their dozens? Hundreds? Is top tier strength something that we have yet to fully understand the scope of? Or have we pretty much met all of the top tier characters we’re going to meet at this point?

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Exactly why I say that One Piece as a whole is severely downplayed and that the people who think that Luffy is suddenly the strongest in the verse are deluded. Btw, there are two vice-admirals that were CONTENDERS for the Admiral position. Just think about that. There also may be more drafted Admiral level individuals.

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope we will meet a new one on Elbaf but am quite skeptical at the thought

 

[Gatodabato]

There will be as much as Oda needs.