General & Others Are Kaido Fans Hypocrites?
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i know, im just playing along bcs this man said Fuji's light ass rubbish could fit 5 Onigashimas
The guy probably isn't a troll: he's likely just really really helpless with math.
It's not whether Fuji can do it or not... Maybe he can
The point is... Fuji did NOT LIFT a city/island... he lift a RUBBLE of a city/island....
Kaido lifted the ENTIRITY of an island/city with all its ground/underground/roots that falls deep inside the water....
This is basically the difference... and Onigashima when we first visited the island, we got a massive widspread about how gigantic EACH and EVERY thing in it... it's a MUCH MORE MASSIVE island than Dressrosa... for sure just by seeing one of the mountain compared to the SHIPS of the allies..
So, again... Fujitora ability SHOULD BE able to pull it off... but featwise, what he did is on a SMALLER scale than what Kaido did... that's all
Also, the method is different in that, Fujitora's fruit itself SHOULD allow him to apply or negate gravity/weight on specific zones.. So, his FRUIT should be the fruit to pull that shit off
While Kaido's method is that he "creates a flaming cloud" in order for him to fly on it.... kinda like Momonosuke.... now, I don't know about you, but it seems like a secondary ability "not the main ability of the fruit" and ALSO, it seems like it SHOULD BE an ability that is AFFECTED by weight...
for example, The more weight, the harder to walk on those clouds and not fall.... At least that's what it seems to me...
So the point is that:
1- Kaido is doing it on a MUCH LARGER SCALE while the ability being "SECONDARY" not the main feature of fruit.
2- Kaido's method of doing it "SHOULD BE MORE TAXING" on Kaido... compared to Fuji... YET they both did it effortlessly I daresay...
Those two points makes it that Kaido's feat is much more impressive
And yet again, I'm not saying Fuji cannot pull that shit off.. he might be able to... and who knows, effortlessly TOO...
The point is... Fuji did NOT LIFT a city/island... he lift a RUBBLE of a city/island....
Kaido lifted the ENTIRITY of an island/city with all its ground/underground/roots that falls deep inside the water....
This is basically the difference... and Onigashima when we first visited the island, we got a massive widspread about how gigantic EACH and EVERY thing in it... it's a MUCH MORE MASSIVE island than Dressrosa... for sure just by seeing one of the mountain compared to the SHIPS of the allies..
So, again... Fujitora ability SHOULD BE able to pull it off... but featwise, what he did is on a SMALLER scale than what Kaido did... that's all
Also, the method is different in that, Fujitora's fruit itself SHOULD allow him to apply or negate gravity/weight on specific zones.. So, his FRUIT should be the fruit to pull that shit off
While Kaido's method is that he "creates a flaming cloud" in order for him to fly on it.... kinda like Momonosuke.... now, I don't know about you, but it seems like a secondary ability "not the main ability of the fruit" and ALSO, it seems like it SHOULD BE an ability that is AFFECTED by weight...
for example, The more weight, the harder to walk on those clouds and not fall.... At least that's what it seems to me...
So the point is that:
1- Kaido is doing it on a MUCH LARGER SCALE while the ability being "SECONDARY" not the main feature of fruit.
2- Kaido's method of doing it "SHOULD BE MORE TAXING" on Kaido... compared to Fuji... YET they both did it effortlessly I daresay...
Those two points makes it that Kaido's feat is much more impressive
And yet again, I'm not saying Fuji cannot pull that shit off.. he might be able to... and who knows, effortlessly TOO...
I'm not gonna give clear measurements... but again, lifiting rubbles IS LESS than lifting the entirety of an island.... Fujitora just lifted up the SURFACE basically, that's all... while the hardest comes from the ground, and what's MOST HARD is the roots that's submerged in water...
To give you an example about the weight of those roots...
take one of your jeans.... submerge it with water... then left it up again... feel the difference in weight...
Kaido is like that... he's carrying the (surface buildings/rubbles + the essence ground + the roots which falls deep in water) and each layer is harder to lift than the one before! While Fuji ONLY did the first layer
To give you an example about the weight of those roots...
take one of your jeans.... submerge it with water... then left it up again... feel the difference in weight...
Kaido is like that... he's carrying the (surface buildings/rubbles + the essence ground + the roots which falls deep in water) and each layer is harder to lift than the one before! While Fuji ONLY did the first layer
Which is almost the exact arguement I made earlier, so obviously I agree.
However, your point on dressrosa < Onigashima in size is pretty apparently wrong, and having wrong points in an argument is both bad practice and can invalidate the rest of your arguement somewhat. Thus I needed to correct you. Thats all.
However, your point on dressrosa < Onigashima in size is pretty apparently wrong, and having wrong points in an argument is both bad practice and can invalidate the rest of your arguement somewhat. Thus I needed to correct you. Thats all.
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So Kaido lifts Onigashima,
And Kaido fans use this to declare that Kaido is surely the strongest OP character.
But when Fujitora lifts all of the rubble over Dressrosa,
Kaido fans never mention this feat even though it is almost identical to Kaido’s feat later on lol.
Are Kaido fans hypocrites?
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And Kaido fans use this to declare that Kaido is surely the strongest OP character.
But when Fujitora lifts all of the rubble over Dressrosa,
Kaido fans never mention this feat even though it is almost identical to Kaido’s feat later on lol.
Are Kaido fans hypocrites?
@Light D Lamperouge @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @MarineHQ62 @Van @Jiihad @comrade @HA001 etc etc etc.
An island is much denser than the rubble so I’d say Kaido’s feat is a bit more impressive
But when you think about it, isn’t Fujitora decreasing the effect of the gravity on all the rubble? Because if he was using gravity to pull the rubble upwards it would have an effect on citizens as well
Essentially Fujitora is making the rubble weigh much much less, and he’s doing so with pinpoint accuracy across what seems to be a wider range
Or maybe he can lift all the pieces of rubble individually by using the force of gravity to lift them up from the bottom, but not the citizens and not from above
Idk it’s weird, but Kaido using a cloud to lift an island is weirder and we definitely don’t understand that feat yet
But when you think about it, isn’t Fujitora decreasing the effect of the gravity on all the rubble? Because if he was using gravity to pull the rubble upwards it would have an effect on citizens as well
Essentially Fujitora is making the rubble weigh much much less, and he’s doing so with pinpoint accuracy across what seems to be a wider range
Or maybe he can lift all the pieces of rubble individually by using the force of gravity to lift them up from the bottom, but not the citizens and not from above
Idk it’s weird, but Kaido using a cloud to lift an island is weirder and we definitely don’t understand that feat yet
Fujitora summoning down a meteor from space (from god knows how many kilometers) is definitely a more impressive feat than both Kaido's and Fujitora's lifting feats.
When it comes to those two lifting feats, Kaido's one is more impressive. The feat in itself is just more impressive, there is no way around it.
But there is no indication for now that this is of any help in combat against a strong opponent. The same clouds which dragons use to fly are now lifting the island, for now it seems more of an utility ability but not related to combat. It's not that Kaido is literally carrying the island on his shoulders lol. Fujitora's lifting feat, while less impressive in itself, it is directly related to a power he uses in combat.
No, I am not saying Fuji> Kaido (I would give Kaido the win in a 1 vs 1).
When it comes to those two lifting feats, Kaido's one is more impressive. The feat in itself is just more impressive, there is no way around it.
But there is no indication for now that this is of any help in combat against a strong opponent. The same clouds which dragons use to fly are now lifting the island, for now it seems more of an utility ability but not related to combat. It's not that Kaido is literally carrying the island on his shoulders lol. Fujitora's lifting feat, while less impressive in itself, it is directly related to a power he uses in combat.
No, I am not saying Fuji> Kaido (I would give Kaido the win in a 1 vs 1).
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I dont see the problem there.
This is DF power. If Hermep ate the Zushi Zushi no mi he could have done the same.
If Babanuki ate the Ryu Ryu no mi he could have done the same.
This feats are hyping DF and INDIRECTLY the character, not the opposite.
Stop trying to say some people are hypocrites when they are not just to hide the L you took by your own favorite character Zoro.
The pool itself tells you that you are wrong.
This is DF power. If Hermep ate the Zushi Zushi no mi he could have done the same.
If Babanuki ate the Ryu Ryu no mi he could have done the same.
This feats are hyping DF and INDIRECTLY the character, not the opposite.
Stop trying to say some people are hypocrites when they are not just to hide the L you took by your own favorite character Zoro.
The pool itself tells you that you are wrong.