Controversial Are you on team Yamato is a daughter.
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I find the only reason for Yamato saying she’s the son of Kaido is because she is literally trying to become Oden.
It’s not really her own wish to be different. Throughout the arc she always said “I’m Kozuki Oden”. She doesn’t have her own identity. This is why I can’t call her by what she so claims she is, because she‘s not following her own path. She’s following the path of a dead man she never even met.
She’s just a Oden wannabe. Unless Oda clears this up and gives Yamato her own identity and she decides on her own who she’s gonna be then I’m going to say she’s the daughter of Kaido.
It’s just a manga though, so I don’t really care that much about it.
It’s not really her own wish to be different. Throughout the arc she always said “I’m Kozuki Oden”. She doesn’t have her own identity. This is why I can’t call her by what she so claims she is, because she‘s not following her own path. She’s following the path of a dead man she never even met.
She’s just a Oden wannabe. Unless Oda clears this up and gives Yamato her own identity and she decides on her own who she’s gonna be then I’m going to say she’s the daughter of Kaido.
It’s just a manga though, so I don’t really care that much about it.
This is what you think, the reality is that we just don't know.
What we know is that she both identify as a man AND identify sometimes as Yamato (being a women)
The best option is therefore to think that Yamato is gender Fluid. This is just the option that can help us understand the most her character.
That's not how gender and sex work
What we know is that she both identify as a man AND identify sometimes as Yamato (being a women)
The best option is therefore to think that Yamato is gender Fluid. This is just the option that can help us understand the most her character.
That's not how gender and sex work
He/she who cares. It's a fictional character made by a japanese man. Not every language have gender specific pronouns or everything revolves in western politics.
What bothers me is how she addresses herself as "Oden" the whole arc, but when meeting Greenbull she introduced herself as "Kaido's son". That's probably the stupidest thing she did. By being related to Kaido you would make marines go after your ass and endanger your friends in Wano by being a child of an infamous criminal. I don't know if GB is smart enough to report it and issue a bounty, or Oda even thought about that. Surely she's not that oblivious about marines since her father is an infamous pirate. Even Denjiro and Shinobu know that he's an enemy of Luffy, their pirate ally, by stepping in.
Still, now that Kaido is plunged in lava she's proud to address him as father? So suddenly, all is cool now between them? :yurazclear: Oda
What bothers me is how she addresses herself as "Oden" the whole arc, but when meeting Greenbull she introduced herself as "Kaido's son". That's probably the stupidest thing she did. By being related to Kaido you would make marines go after your ass and endanger your friends in Wano by being a child of an infamous criminal. I don't know if GB is smart enough to report it and issue a bounty, or Oda even thought about that. Surely she's not that oblivious about marines since her father is an infamous pirate. Even Denjiro and Shinobu know that he's an enemy of Luffy, their pirate ally, by stepping in.
Still, now that Kaido is plunged in lava she's proud to address him as father? So suddenly, all is cool now between them? :yurazclear: Oda
@CarrotForNakama If TheAncientCenturion fluctuates between as himself and identifying as Natalija and wants us to use female pronouns, does that make him genderfluid?
But that doesn’t make sense, Yamato is mentally incapable of thinking for herself. She admires Oden so much that she‘s given up thinking about what she wants and is only living the life of Oden she’s heard and read.
Trying to be someone else doesn’t make you a man or a woman. It just makes you an idiot! Gender fluid doesn’t work in this context because she doesn’t even consider herself that!
She only wants to be a man because Oden was one. She wants to become Kozuki Oden.
Yamato and Kiku are completely different. I wonder if Oda was trying to paint a picture with that or if it was simply a coincidence?
Trying to be someone else doesn’t make you a man or a woman. It just makes you an idiot! Gender fluid doesn’t work in this context because she doesn’t even consider herself that!
She only wants to be a man because Oden was one. She wants to become Kozuki Oden.
Yamato and Kiku are completely different. I wonder if Oda was trying to paint a picture with that or if it was simply a coincidence?
I don't get that..
What ?
Of course she is, she made her own choices. You read the story ?
Her admiration of Oden is as strong only because it aligns with her viewpoints.
By becoming Oden she become a man.
What ?
Of course she is, she made her own choices. You read the story ?
Her admiration of Oden is as strong only because it aligns with her viewpoints.
By becoming Oden she become a man.
Even if she made a few choices, in the end she still called herself Kozuki Oden. One of the last panels she was in during Wano reflected that. She had little to no character development whatsoever.
I know I said I didn’t care about it that much but your responses are getting on my nerves because it seems like you actually want her character to do the very thing most people have an issue with. What she’s doing isn’t admirable or inspirational at all. It’s annoying and restricts her character from developing.
She can’t become the kind of person she herself may want to be. She wants to take someone else’s life as her own.
Kiku is her own person, who made an identity for herself. Yamato is trying to be someone else, taking on the identity of a dead man. There is an irrefutable difference.
