Powers & Abilities Armament master Rayleigh and Observation master Gaban

#42
Where? Sure we reading the same manga?
I truly donโ€™t understand the reason to be upset that one of Rogerโ€™s top men being strong or scared that they become relevant in the current story

Like wow one of the pirates kings top men was strong. That should be expected
If he does or doesnโ€™t become relevant in the story who cares? If he becomes relevant cool another cool roger pirate. If he doesnโ€™t then cool who cares
That person was very clearly sensing the SHs with CoO. Idk why more people don't bring this up since this is easily the best CoO feat in the series
Tbf it could just be a situation where he knew the giant pirates were trying to save and return with the strawhats. Itโ€™d definitely be insane if true but oda could potentially explain it other ways
 
#44
I truly donโ€™t understand the reason to be upset that one of Rogerโ€™s top men being strong or scared that they become relevant in the current story

Like wow one of the pirates kings top men was strong. That should be expected
If he does or doesnโ€™t become relevant in the story who cares? If he becomes relevant cool another cool roger pirate. If he doesnโ€™t then cool who cares

Tbf it could just be a situation where he knew the giant pirates were trying to save and return with the strawhats. Itโ€™d definitely be insane if true but oda could potentially explain it other ways
Ok but how would he know EXACTLY when the SHs are leaving Egghead?
 
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#46
I wonder if Scopper Gaban will be something one day or just a forgtten character.

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#47
Except there were only 100,000 foes
Valid argument even if the 100k number is not exactly accurate.
I also doubt that Odas statement was meant that way.

Still no reason to bring 2 people up and compare them directly if they were not capable of compareable feats.
 
#48
Rayleigh is a master of all 3 haki and we have nothing on gaban but that he was Roger's #3. Rayleigh could easily be better at coo than gaban but you can't just limit him to coa when he's mastered all 3 haki.
 
#56
Tbh you might be right @Albino ๐Ÿ‘‘
I mean it seems that hiding one presence is a CoO feat and Gaban who is as strong than Rayleigh and Roger was not seen as a threat(or with a strong Haki) by Luffy and Zoro so it might be because he is hiding his presence.

If the above is true Gaban being able to ยซ disappear ยป might make Luffy unable to see his future move with FS.
Future sight + presence hiding + country level range + maybe other cool tricks would be dope

Heโ€™s not gonna have the voice of all things like Roger and Oden but thatโ€™s likely something more than just haki
 
#57
Tbh you might be right @Albino ๐Ÿ‘‘
I mean it seems that hiding one presence is a CoO feat and Gaban who is as strong than Rayleigh and Roger was not seen as a threat(or with a strong Haki) by Luffy and Zoro so it might be because he is hiding his presence.

If the above is true Gaban being able to ยซ disappear ยป might make Luffy unable to see his future move with FS.
The fact that Pedro could hide his presence aswell, speaks for it being a non CoC related ability, right.
Next to those heavy hitters the only other one, who could do it iirc.
 
#59
If Gaban has adCoC I wonder if his version is an augment of CoO similar to how adCoC is currently just an augmented CoA
 
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