Powers & Abilities Asura and Hell’s Memories are attacks, not forms

[York]

Zoros real form change

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Bruh, stop the cap. They are forms with short amount of duration, not an attack. Basically like G3. When Zoro activates Asura, he got access to different kinds of attacks, each of them are named differently (against Kaku, Pacifista and Kaido). While Sanji doesn't use any named kicks while activates Hell's Memories, like he could have pull Concasser or Flambage Shot while setting himself on fire. They're one time use attacks.

 

[Herrera95]

Asura seems to be a transformation. I don't really care, hate this movement and hope never to happen again.

 

[Finalbeta]

Asura is a mode as much as G3 is.

In fact both are 🧐

 

[BOCCHI]

In fact both are 🧐

Neither is. They are techniques that have different varieties of attacks once they finish an attack itself over which isn’t the same as G2, G4 or DJ.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Someone considered hell memories a form?

 

[Halyup]

hells memories = ashura
and the new Sanji attack on queen = new zoro attack on king

Tatsumaki > Hell memories

 

[Adamxero]

Asura is CoC, Zoro now controls CoC at will, If not this arc then maybe next one, He will use Asura for an extended period of time

When was Asura ever confirmed as CoC?

You can't point to a single reference to this. It's headcanon.

 

[Gauntlet]

When was Asura ever confirmed as CoC?

You can't point to a single reference to this. It's headcanon.

Kaku stating Zoro's Asura being the manifestation of Zoro's will and Rayleigh states that CoC's the manifestation of one's will. While there's no confirmation, there are clues towards it being so.

 

[Finalbeta]

Neither is. They are techniques that have different varieties of attacks once they finish an attack itself over which isn’t the same as G2, G4 or DJ.

Mode = Any configuration that doesn't necessarily implicate a single attack usage whether or not an attack is even used. That's how it's usually conceived in these discussions.

G3 and Asura seem to respect more than enough criteria to follow this definition.

 

[Abysmal]

When was Asura ever confirmed as CoC?

You can't point to a single reference to this. It's headcanon.

I never speak headcanon
There's no other shit in OP that explains Asura, even the cursed sword theory got debunked by Kuina's grandfather.
Also, he answered you:

Kaku stating Zoro's Asura being the manifestation of Zoro's will and Rayleigh states that CoC's the manifestation of one's will. While there's no confirmation, there are clues towards it being so.

 

[CbShadow]

Hell memory yes.

Asura no.

Asura mode has 3 different attacks so far. Zoro can fight in asura mode without needing to perform one of those three attacks.

 

[Finalbeta]

Hell's Memories also striked as a clear attack to me, no mode. At least from the way it looked like, although substantially not 100% sure technically.

 

[Adamxero]

Kaku stating Zoro's Asura being the manifestation of Zoro's will and Rayleigh states that CoC's the manifestation of one's will. While there's no confirmation, there are clues towards it being so.

At this stage still headcanon.

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I never speak headcanon
There's no other shit in OP that explains Asura, even the cursed sword theory got debunked by Kuina's grandfather.
Also, he answered you:

Never been confirmed therefore headcanon

It was the same as when people tried to explain Sanji's fire attacks as haki as well.

 

[yorosenpai]

this thread is bullshit you are putting 2 thing that are galaxy far away.

Anyway 1 is just a fire kick - the other is a spirit create by will power (so a form) that is able to scar Kaido.
So Asura can inflect heavy damage on Yonkos.
Hell Memory cant even deal good damage on 2YC.....

 

[Gauntlet]

At this stage still headcanon.

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Never been confirmed therefore headcanon

It was the same as when people tried to explain Sanji's fire attacks as haki as well.

Unlike Sanji's fire attacks, Zoro's Asura has always been connected to Haki, or will in-story whereas Sanji's flame powers were never insinuated as such. While both aren't confirmed to be haki, Asura at least has manga panels to support such claim.

 

[Finalbeta]

It breaks my heart that such Asura greatness is placed in the same sentence with Hell's Memories.

 

[zorji]

Hell Memory cant even deal good damage on 2YC.....

litterally debunked in latest chapter that it was that that gave the advantage to sanji now by damaging Queen so much that it swiched the balance of the fight for sanji to finish him quicly...
Imagine if it was ifrit jambe fire with hell memories ???

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Tatsumaki > Hell memories

Concasse would break through Tatsumaki
Hell memories is countered by higher attack than mere tatsumaki

 

[vikas]

Asura is 9 sword style attack series

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Or can say all 9 sword style attacks are asura attacks