General & Others Authors who allow the story to take control of them are failures
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Well in this case it actually does. Fights are literally the climax of the arc and seeing Oda perpetually fuck them up has made One Piece insufferable for me.
Why should I read hundreds upon hundreds of chapters when I know the payoff is going to be ass?
Especially when other authors in shonen don't hold back when it comes to fights.
The big mom fight was the penultimate fight. Big Mom's defeat was the 2nd most important thing that happened in wano. If Oda doesn't have time to do this plot point justice, then he should cut out the other shit.
Why should I read hundreds upon hundreds of chapters when I know the payoff is going to be ass?
Especially when other authors in shonen don't hold back when it comes to fights.
The big mom fight was the penultimate fight. Big Mom's defeat was the 2nd most important thing that happened in wano. If Oda doesn't have time to do this plot point justice, then he should cut out the other shit.
First of all, it's completely stupid to compare someone who publishes every week to someone who has years to produce material, proofread and then publish.
Second, there is something called critical reading and interpretation, which many readers lack.
For examples Law and Kid working together to defeat Big Mom, showing the same kind of power (Devil Fruit awakening), both being captains, both being supernova of the worst generation. This symbolizes that the two are on an equal footing, there is no need to explicitly say within the story "Both possess the same capacity for power".
Second, there is something called critical reading and interpretation, which many readers lack.
For examples Law and Kid working together to defeat Big Mom, showing the same kind of power (Devil Fruit awakening), both being captains, both being supernova of the worst generation. This symbolizes that the two are on an equal footing, there is no need to explicitly say within the story "Both possess the same capacity for power".
Bruh. You started off well with valid criticisms...and then you turned it into your own frustration at the fact that other readers disagree with your notion of what Oda is trying to portray.
"Big Mom is equal to Kaido"
"Kid & Law are stronger than Zoro"
How do you know that is what Oda believes? Just because you feel that way, means that you are definitely interpreting Oda's thoughts correctly? Why would the blame be on Oda if you are capable of understanding his ideas but everyone else isn't? Wouldn't it just be that everyone else is reading the story incorrectly?
It's a weird perspective to have. It's like you're trying not to instigate an argument by trying to make Oda the object of frustration instead of accusing other people of having what would be incorrect takes according to you.
"Big Mom is equal to Kaido"
"Kid & Law are stronger than Zoro"
How do you know that is what Oda believes? Just because you feel that way, means that you are definitely interpreting Oda's thoughts correctly? Why would the blame be on Oda if you are capable of understanding his ideas but everyone else isn't? Wouldn't it just be that everyone else is reading the story incorrectly?
It's a weird perspective to have. It's like you're trying not to instigate an argument by trying to make Oda the object of frustration instead of accusing other people of having what would be incorrect takes according to you.
I find Sanji's new attacks way more visually appealing than Luffy's. Does that mean Sanji > Luffy?
I had my doubts about Kid. I wouldn't even put him YC1, and capped him at Smoothie level pending new feats. Then Oda showed this panel.
At this moment, I knew not just Luffy, but Kid/Law >>> Yonko Commanders, and they were going to beat the 2 Yonko.
That's portrayal ^. Not Zoro/Yamato sparkling jizz at the end of their clubs. Law's and Kid's attacks broke BM's arms, while Yamato's signature attack couldn't even keep Ulti down.
I had my doubts about Kid. I wouldn't even put him YC1, and capped him at Smoothie level pending new feats. Then Oda showed this panel.
At this moment, I knew not just Luffy, but Kid/Law >>> Yonko Commanders, and they were going to beat the 2 Yonko.
That's portrayal ^. Not Zoro/Yamato sparkling jizz at the end of their clubs. Law's and Kid's attacks broke BM's arms, while Yamato's signature attack couldn't even keep Ulti down.
I think he has a point. With Big Mom at least, we've been told countless times that they are very close in strength, yet her performance against Kid and Law makes her look far weaker than kaido.
Similarly with Kid and Law, I can't say exactly how they stand with zoro, but when Oda gives them a 3 billion berry bounty, there are steps he could have taken to make those bounties actually feel valid. Like, for example, making big mom look strong, having her use ACoC on panel, having her use island busting attacks, and not having her KO herself by punching a bomb.
Similarly with Kid and Law, I can't say exactly how they stand with zoro, but when Oda gives them a 3 billion berry bounty, there are steps he could have taken to make those bounties actually feel valid. Like, for example, making big mom look strong, having her use ACoC on panel, having her use island busting attacks, and not having her KO herself by punching a bomb.
You're saying it's Oda's fault that not everyone agrees with your opinion lmao
When Oda wants things to be crystal clear, he comes out and says it, either through characters in the story or by his own words. He flat-out said that Whitebeard was the only man equal to Roger in combat. He flat-out said that Zoro is the second-strongest Straw Hat. None of the things you said are explicitly stated in the manga or by Oda which makes them open for debate
Besides, even when Oda DOES make things crystal clear, people still debate about them...so it doesn't even matter anyway.
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Oda is a very intelligent writer he knows how to get people talking lol. Zoro is above kidd and law, so get over it. Kaido said only the very strongest people use advanced conquerors haki, last time I checked kidd and law don’t have advanced conquerors.
Both kidd and law had to work together with awakenings to take out big mom because she’s so strong. Where with zoro he made big mom tell kaido to dodge becuase his own attack potency was to strong. This is Pre advanced conquerors haki zoro 🤣.
Zoro’s feats this arc are only going to keep building. His legendary moment of killing kaido will annihilate both of these open and hidden power wanking agenda threads.
Both kidd and law had to work together with awakenings to take out big mom because she’s so strong. Where with zoro he made big mom tell kaido to dodge becuase his own attack potency was to strong. This is Pre advanced conquerors haki zoro 🤣.
Zoro’s feats this arc are only going to keep building. His legendary moment of killing kaido will annihilate both of these open and hidden power wanking agenda threads.