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Shuyaku

#8
Debunking = Overwanking feats and crying that its legit because it says so on a Battle Wikipedia💀

Yikes. But of course Katakuri has island lvl DC. Thats why he destroyed WCI:usoprice:
It’s not my fault you have no clue how powerscaling works. Go spend some time on Comicvine, they’ll school you there.
 
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Shuyaku

#10
Powerscaling is retarded anyways especially in a heavily inconsistent verse like OP.

Giving other peoples feats due to injuring them is stupid due the varying stats characters have and other factors that go into the fights.
This is how powerscaling works, it’s not exclusive to this or that verse. If a character has building level durability for instance, and X character is able to injure them, that makes them building level minimum, it’s not rocket science.

OP has some iconsistent speed feats, and issues with nerfing/retconning characters like Crocodile, it’s fine otherwise.
 
#11
It’s not my fault you have no clue how powerscaling works. Go spend some time on Comicvine, they’ll school you there.
Chrono in Comicvine? Man, that would be awesome to see.

Hey @Chrono, how about joining the Comicvine community? I'm sure they would school you there just fine lol.
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Giving other peoples feats due to injuring them is stupid due the varying stats characters have and other factors that go into the fights.
So the cyborgs in DBZ are not stellar level for injuring Super Saiyans?
 
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This is how powerscaling works, it’s not exclusive to this or that verse. If a character has building level durability for instance, and X character is able to injure them, that makes them building level minimum, it’s not rocket science.

OP has some iconsistent speed feats, and issues with nerfing/retconning characters like Crocodile, it’s fine otherwise.
You dont take in to consideration that characters can be glass cannons. Just cause character A has high AP/DC, yet trash durability. And character B injures him. That doesnt mean character B has that lvl of AP/DC. Because Character A AP/DC could very well neg himself.
 
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Shuyaku

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You dont take in to consideration that characters can be glass cannons. Just cause character A has high AP/DC, yet trash durability. And character B injures him. That doesnt mean character B has that lvl of AP/DC. Because Character A AP/DC could very well neg himself.
I gave a specific example assuming that character A has building level durability, if they’re glass cannons it’s a different case obviously.

For instance damaging Genos doesn’t scale you to his power output, because he has low durability.

Deep Sea King tanks multi building level attacks without much issues, if you can injure a guy like that it obviously puts your ap at a minimum of multi building level.
 
#16
Giving other peoples feats due to injuring them is stupid due the varying stats characters have and other factors that go into the fights.
Fairy Tail is inconsistent, Dragon Ball is ridiculously inconsistent, Naruto is inconsistent as well (Madara, a continental buster "died" from a kunai) and yet, we equalize all of their shown feats, on the same ballbark, with other fictional verses because what we can say about all fictional verses are that all of them are kinda inconsistent.

You pull lame excuses out of your ass for OP being inconsistent, only to push your HxH wanking above OP - a verse which is known for being weak. Heck, our reactions are at least kinda polite, people on these battle sites would simply laugh at you, even the most trolling users in Comicvine lol.
 
#17
I gave a specific example assuming that character A has building level durability, if they’re glass cannons it’s a different case obviously.

For instance damaging Genos doesn’t scale you to his power output, because he has low durability.
Exactly.

Now people say Luffy has Island lvl Durability due to tanking an Island lvl punch from Moriah. Completely ignoring that Luffy will have extremely high durability to most physical attacks without haki.

Now if Katakuri injures Luffy, whilst using haki....completely negating that extremely high durability. Then Katakuri wouldnt deserve island lvl DC.


Now to add to it. Luffy has never taken an impressive haki attack that even ranges to mountain lvl pre WCI. By all cases, without his rubber durability.....Luffy is a glass cannon who gets injured by most haki attacks.

Now is it fair to scale Katakuri so high for injuring Luffy ?
 
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Shuyaku

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Exactly.

Now people say Luffy has Island lvl Durability due to tanking an Island lvl punch from Moriah. Completely ignoring that Luffy will have extremely high durability to most physical attacks without haki.

Now if Katakuri injures Luffy, whilst using haki....completely negating that extremely high durability. Then Katakuri wouldnt deserve island lvl DC.


Now to add to it. Luffy has never taken an impressive haki attack that even ranges to mountain lvl pre WCI. By all cases, without his rubber durability.....Luffy is a glass cannon who gets injured by most haki attacks.

Now is it fair to scale Katakuri so high for injuring Luffy ?
There’s instances of Luffy getting hurt by blunt attacks before haki was a thing. He is not immune to it, just highly resistant. At the end of TB he was literally unconscious, how do you think that happened if he is immune to all sorts of blunt damage ? The island splitter isn’t the only attack you can scale on lmfao,Katakuri literally hits harder than G3, Chinjao and Sai.

Btw, glass cannon implies both low durability and endurance. I brought up Genos because all it takes is a few hits to break down his cyborg body generally. Luffy takes damage from weak attacks, but his pain tolerance,endurance is extremely high, just like Whitebeard, these ain’t glass cannons.
 
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There’s instances of Luffy getting hurt by blunt attacks before haki was a thing. He is not immune to it, just highly resistant. At the end of TB he was literally unconscious, how do you think that happened if he is immune to all sorts of blunt damage ? The island splitter isn’t the only attack you can scale on lmfao,Katakuri literally hits harder than G3, Chinjao and Sai.

Btw, glass cannon implies both low durability and endurance. I brought up Genos because all it takes is a few hits to break down his cyborg body generally. Luffy takes damage from weak attacks, but his pain tolerance,endurance is extremely high, just like Whitebeard, these ain’t glass cannons.
Pre timeskip Sanji's base kick isnt comparable to the Moriah punch. Thus PIS.

Luffy went unconcious from the stress of G2/G3 and also Nightmare mode shit. As of now, Moriah's punch did nothing to him.

G3 isnt close to Mountain, and current Chinjoa isnt close Prime Chinjoa.


Yes I know Luffy's endurance is high. Im just talking about his durability in this sense. When haki is involved his durability wasnt impressive.
 
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Now if Katakuri injures Luffy, whilst using haki....completely negating that extremely high durability. Then Katakuri wouldnt deserve island lvl DC.
Katakuri injured Bound Man, a mode known for its hardening + rubbery mechanism.

Also, that Moria feat is not the only one. As I said, they get scaled on Chinjao's feat as well. And Katakuri is at minimum on this ballbark for being superior to Chinjao.
As @BigChungus2018 said, this isn't rocket science.

Luffy has never taken an impressive haki attack that even ranges to mountain lvl pre WCI.
He easily tanked Doflamingo's signature attacks and easily overpowered Doflamingo's strongest attack.

Later, it was decided that his G4th mode can be easily scaled on Prime Chinjao due to him matching and overpowering Yonko Commanders.
That is the equivalent of Nappa destroying the Z fighters, including Piccolo, without showing planetary feats. And yet, he is planet level since he scales to Piccolo.

Now is it fair to scale Katakuri so high for injuring Luffy ?
Yes.
 
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