Questions & Mysteries BB Pirates will go after 2 Ancient Weapons

Erkan12

Erkan12

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Is Teach going to choose one of the targets and focus on one of them, or go with 2 different teams after 2 ancient weapons?

For now, we see that BB Pirates can go into;

Solo missions:

- Burgess goes to Dressrosa to steal Flame Logia.
- Lafitte goes to Marijoa and later Umit Shipping to gather information and make deal.

Duo missions:

- Shiryu and Lafitte goes to Dressrosa to pick up Burgess.
- Aokiji and Augur goes to Whole Cake Island to kidnap Pudding.
- Devon and Augur goes to Egghead to steal Saturn's appearance.

Trio mission:

- Blackbeard, Devon and Vasco goes to Amazon Lily to steal Hancock's DF, ends up kidnapping Koby.

Quadruple mission:

- Blackbeard, Doc Q, Augur, Burgess waits one of the 3 billion captains to show up on the road from Wano.

So they don't need to move with all of the crew.

How are they going to move and steal 2 Ancient Weapons from Fishman Island and Wano? Plus they need to guard Garp and Pudding unless they carry them when they go which I doubt.

Perhaps Oda will send Aokiji, and some other fodders like Caribou, Don Krieg, Gin to help him, and some other unknown members of BB Pirates (not titanic captains) to Fishman Island to kidnap Ancient Weapon Shirahoshi, because Aokiji's freezing ability is perfect to the underwater drowning threat while fighting on Fishman Island, and Luffy will try to stop Aokiji there, potentially beat him and end Aokiji's ties with BB Pirates.

Remember, Fishman Island is the place where Luffy learned about Aokiji's loss vs Akainu for the first time, that would be interesting for them to face each other again in that place and as an Emperor, Luffy will protect his territory.

Or Shanks might involve in this as he follows Teach's movements.

But Oda would perhaps compensate for that failure by giving the Pluton Ancient Weapon from Wano to BB Pirates, so they can conquer World Government or be equal partners with them. Or Caribou when no one notices steal Shirahoshi like he did before, and even if Aokiji or someone else fails, perhaps he can manage to escape with Shirahoshi. There are many possible scenarios how Oda will go from here.

I believe Shiryu should go to Wano due to Wano connections, but there is someone needed to guard the prisoners so not sure about that.
 
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Rej

Rej

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I think they don't neccessarily need the ancient weapons because just knowing about them and how to turn them against the users or just steer chaos with them is enough. Tho it would still make for good aura if they end up having one.

I still think that Cross Guild will be involved somehow with Wano and the Pluton. Maybe Teach will be there too, or one of his proxys.
 
CoC: Color of Clowns

CoC: Color of Clowns

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Pluton is named after the God of the Underworld, Pluto, and was created in a city, Water 7, known for sinking into the ocean.

There has been one Submarine showcased in this series, belonging to Trafalgar D. Water Law. Water Law, as in, Water 7. As in, Law's ancestors helped build Pluton. This is why Law is associated with Death. God of the Underworld = Death.

Pluton is a submarine battleship, which is what made it so destructive. I believe we've already seen foreshadowing to Pluton's construction through Laboon; Pluton is a Submarine MADE from a Sea Beast, hence why it is "Slumbering" and will "Awaken"; it's literally asleep, because its operator hasn't activated it. Based on their construction, I believe Pluton to be a Sea Turtle, as this would be the easiest Sea Beast to turn into a ship.

What made Pluton so dangerous was its ability to function as a living ship, and destroy islands from below. While Uranus (God the Heavens/Sky) attacks from above, Pluton attacks from below.

If I'm correct, and Pluton is a submarine, I think Teach will attack Pluton, first.

Fish-Man Island is known for being incredibly dangerous to go to (though Teach partially solves this by people able to make sea quakes with his Gura Fruit), and both islands have a lot of troops, and are natural fortresses.

IMO, Teach will go after Pluton, since it's so close, then use Pluton to get Poseidon. Teach is a historian/archeologist, I believe he knows at least the basic functions of the Ancient Weapons.

IMO, Apoo is Teach's Musician, and was actually Teach's informant while pretending to work for Kaido. This is why Apoo tried to kill Kaido at the end of the Raid, to get in Teach's good graces.

Apoo knows all kinds of secret ways to get into Wano, and Augur can just teleport them in.

Wano Act 4 is when we'll see the full force of the Blackbeard Pirates mobilizing.

Teach won't just want Pluton, he'll want Wano, itself, as it's a natural war fortress.
 
Gol D. Bullet

Gol D. Bullet

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For Blackbeard going to Wano or Fishman Island have their pros and cons. I think Teach will have his whole crew with him depending on which island he chooses. But right now, I think Fishman Island is the more likely option. There are a number of reasons why

Fishman Island is extremely vulnerable and has little to no real armies to protect itself from invaders. This is largely because they are deep in the ocean and no human army can properly invade the island unless they stole or build vegapunk technology. in otherwards it would be a cakewalk for the Blackbeard pirates to pillage and burn the island. Plus, Shirahoshi doesn't have full control over her abilities, making her vulnerable to Laffite's hypnosis abilities.

Blackbeard however has been building a special team of Devil fruit users capable of infiltrating any location. Teach will also have the undying loyalty of Caribou who can act as a guide to Fishman Island and give inside information of the layout of Fishman Island. Plus, Shirahoshi will be a valuable chip for Teach to hold over the World Government's head. Even if Teach can't compel Shirahoshi to do his bidding, just the thought of Teach having the power to control the Sea Kings would give him bargaining power to join the World Government as a King. The most important thing for Teach now is to get access to the Holy Land and Shirahoshi would be a golden ticket for that goal. Especially since Imu fears Shirahoshi's powers.

Contrast this with Wano, where Teach has little knowledge of Wano and its current forces beyond people's speculations of Shiryu having ties to Wano. I'm not saying Teach and his crew wouldn't annihilate Wano's forces, but I think based on my readings of Teach, he won't make a move unless he has a lot of information that makes him feel comfortable before making a move. Plus having a battleship as powerful as Pluton might go against Teach's goals. Because such a ship that the WG desperately wanted for themselves might make recoil against Teach and refuse to make any deals with the Yonko. My impression is also that Teach seems to understand how strong the WG is and doesn't want to brute force his way into the Holy Land unless he absolutely has too.

From the narrative POV, it would be massive payoff for Caribou to be revealing the secrets he has been holding for a long time both in and out universe. Plus, Fishman Island was the first island to be declared under Luffy's protection before he became a full-fledged Yonko. You can see in the manga how Oda has been slowly building up Blackbeard's rivalry with Luffy and how it will ignite. Because even though Teach has done nothing personally against Luffy, the fact remains that he has attacked or kidnapped his friends or loved ones like Koby, Garp, Hancock and now Teach has essentially trespassed on Luffy's territory and like we saw with Shanks and Barto, any self-respecting Yonko can't let slights against them pass without a response.
 
D. Plant

D. Plant

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I have a huge theory but too lazy to write. Here is a what I think. For now, there are no point getting the Pluton because it requires One Piece treasure in order to make them function. Getting ancient weapons will become a big news to the world, the other big players will not just stand by watching them dictate the world with the massive 'world ending' weapon on their hands. This will eventually lead BBP to go to war with them. Especially World Government, they are the biggest force on the world right now. Thus getting ancient weapon will put BBP in a unfavorable position.

As they are monitoring the revolution sabotaging supplies to MarieJois. It's more logical to get rid of the big players first, before stealing the Ancient Weapons. Both MarieJois and Revolution are weaken. Revolution doesn't have not enough weapons and Celestial Dragon are starving. Obviously MarieJois owns the Marine, so whoever gain seize MarieJois controls the Marine. When the celestial dragon hits the breaking point of food shortage, there will be nothing but chaos. BBP will attack the Holy Land and Revolution couldn't do anything about it. The revolution might even be the next target. The crumbling of these big players changed the situation for BBP greatly and giving them the opportunity to get the ancient weapons.
 
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