Powers & Abilities Big Mom and Kaido have used Hakai other times...

#21
Single attack?

King got hit by an attack offscreen that broke his Mask(flames off). Then he got hit by severa attacks(many more offscreen for sure) when he had flames on. Then he got hit by an ACoC attack that broke his armor. Zoro again hit him with ACoC when he was rolling on the ground. And finally he uses his ultimate on King.

So we know for sure that King took at least 1 "normal" hit flames off and 3 ACoC hits with flames off. Without couting the numerous attacks with flames on.
That mask attack didn't seem to do any damage and zoro attacked king second time from a bad position and both were unnamed attacks if I am not mistaken
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#25
Yeah but he got defeated by a single attack of zoro's ; where kaido has taken so many attacks and bunch of conquerors attacks and will take more

The gap is pretty big ; sure zoro's attacks are more lethal and luffy's pack a punch too
Swords >>>
Luffy has hit kaido 30 plus times with acoc a weakened kaido at that
A top acoc swordsman wouldn't need a 10th of those hits landed.
 
#31
Kaido was cabin boy tier in God Valley and was the only member there noted who almost died (apart from Rocks who was taken out by Roger and Garp).

Most likely BM and WB used the first Hakai combo attack while Kaido watched in the peanut gallery sidelines.
WB used zero attacks from his bisento ever lol

Oda had to make kaido apprentice to not make them too overpowered but didn't in case of BM
 

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#32
Incorrect. People are acting like the strongest guys in the verse struggling to block Hakai 40 years ago will validate Zoro’s feat.

When there’s literally no reason to think that will happen.
Except it does. If Roger blocked Hakai 40 years ago, it doesn't take anything from Zoro because Roger is leagues above Zoro while the Rocks duo back then was leagues beneath what they are now. On the other hand, if Roger or one of the big guys involved struggles with it, then it definitely elevates Zoro for the same reasons that I've mentioned above.
 
#33
Swords >>>
Luffy has hit kaido 30 plus times with acoc a weakened kaido at that
A top acoc swordsman wouldn't need a 10th of those hits landed.
Lethal yes but that doesn't mean internal attack punches are less powerful and luffy is using roc attacks which are more powerful as we see in 1000
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Another thing zoro hold the attack for mere seconds where Roger mostly will cancel it with his own attacks ; kaido also was apprentice so the attack would be weaker too
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#34
Lethal yes but that doesn't mean internal attack punches are less powerful and luffy is using roc attacks which are more powerful as we see in 1000
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Another thing zoro hold the attack for mere seconds where Roger mostly will cancel it with his own attacks ; kaido also was apprentice so the attack would be weaker too
Yes it does.

These internal attacks ain't doing shit.

A proper internal damage was gamma knife on doffy where he was fucked up and was clearly spitting blood from inside afterwards

Not even comparable
 
#35
Yes it does.

These internal attacks ain't doing shit.

A proper internal damage was gamma knife on doffy where he was fucked up and was clearly spitting blood from inside afterwards

Not even comparable
Every attack hurts kaido , we see sword attacks effect directly but not punches

Zoro's single attack at the very least should be comparable to 3-4 rock punched
 
#36
you forget that the main people in gods valley are garp and roger not roger and ray
Are you seriously thinkin roger didnt have his crew or garp didnt have his platoon lmao
Roger and garp cant win 2 v 5 vs Rocks , Whitebeard , Bigmom , Kaido and Shiki

Rocks alone is equal to Roger
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Kaido was cabin boy tier in God Valley and was the only member there noted who almost died (apart from Rocks who was taken out by Roger and Garp).

Most likely BM and WB used the first Hakai combo attack while Kaido watched in the peanut gallery sidelines.
Headcanon over headcanon
 
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#37
WB used zero attacks from his bisento ever lol

Oda had to make kaido apprentice to not make them too overpowered but didn't in case of BM
Not sure what your point is, WB's main weapon is his bisento. He's imbued his CoC into his bisento before.

Are you seriously thinkin roger didnt have his crew or garp didnt have his platoon lmao
Roger and garp cant win 2 v 5 vs Rocks , Whitebeard , Bigmom , Kaido and Shiki

Rocks alone is equal to Roger
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Headcanon over headcanon
Do you know how to actually read, I said most likely AKA not for certain. But fact is Kaido wasn't on the same tier as BM or WB back then, he's the only one noted who almost died until BM saved him.
 
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