Character Discussion Blackbeard as an ally against Imu

[Monkey D Theories]

So I’ve been thinking about how Oda could handle Imu and Teach

One possibility I’ve made several posts about is Teach becoming Imu’s ally and falling to Luffy’s allies like BM did. But I recently thought of another possibility that I think could make more sense.

What if Luffy and Teach ally? In wano, BM and Kaido allied to defeat common enemies. BM and Kaido were still rivals and wanted to beat each other, but they wanted to defeat their common enemies first before fighting each other.

What if Luffy and the other yonko do that? agreeing to defeat Imu and the WG before duking it out amongst themselves?

I think this would essentially lead to OP having a naruto-like ending. First you have the big war against Imu where everyone teams up against Imu. Then you have the final 1v1s of the series.

Luffy vs Teach
Zoro vs Mihawk

Idk about Shanks, maybe Loda will finally let Kid beat him. Else he could die in the war, possibly a victim to Imu.

Anyways I do think this would work. However, Oda is a very formulaic author and this doesn’t really fit past arc formulas. Still, maybe Oda will break the formula for the last arc, which would make sense and tbh should be expected. This would also fit Oda’s comments about a free for all.

 

[OykotsTreasure]

I think it's possible. But, probably not likely.

I could see Luffy being put in a position where he basically has no other choice than to team up with Blackbeard in order to achieve something. His back is against the wall, and the only way to save his friends and the world is to team up with Blackbeard. So, maybe.

But, Luffy is also pretty much controlled by his emotions. And Blackbeard is one of the few people in this world that Luffy outright seems to dislike. Luffy might refuse to work with him, no matter what kind of situation he finds himself in. And he might be right to do so. Because working with Blackbeard might just make things worse.

...Then again, Luffy is also VERY gullible. If Blackbeard ever apologizes for all the bad things he's done, even if it's actually a lie, Luffy might just believe him. Because Blackbeard IS clever enough to do something like that. And Luffy IS dumb enough to fall for such a simple trick.

It kind of depends on where Oda's going with Blackbeard. Blackbeard and Luffy are so different in a lot of ways, but so similar in others. There's probably some sort of connection between the two, but it's hard to say what. Ever since that speech back in Mock Town, I've always wondered why Luffy reacted the way he did.

And my personal theory is that they're linked by their Fruits. My personal theory is that Blackbeard's Darkness Fruit is actually another Model Nika Fruit. The Darkness Fruit was just "manifested" by a group of people who saw Nika from a different perspective. One Fruit was dreamed into existence by a group of people who were friends with Nika. And the other Fruit was dreamed into existence by a group of people who were Nika's enemies. Two different ways of seeing the same person, either from different view points or from different points at his life along his timeline. Like Skinny Elvis and Fat Elvis.

If that was the case, there actually would be some thematic relevance for Blackbeard and Luffy to team up. It'd be a metaphorical reconciliation between the "good" and "evil" parts of one person's "soul". It would be cathartic for the spirits inside the Devil Fruits to make up with each other. If they're basically the same guy.

...But, I think it makes more sense for Blackbeard to make his move before Luffy has that chance to reconcile. Blackbeard's been making a lot of odd moves in the background of the story. And, just for the drama, I think it makes more sense for Blackbeard's plan to suddenly get sprung on everyone without any warning. I think it makes more sense for Blackbeard's various plans and plots throughout the story to finally get turned into a giant trap that engulfs everyone and takes them by surprise.

So, I don't know. I could see it going in a few different ways, I guess. I can't write off the idea that Luffy and Blackbeard could work together, someday, though. It's plausible. I just wouldn't put money on it, myself.

Either way, they're almost guaranteed to fight at some point in the story. There are scenarios where I can see Blackbeard being the final villain. And others where he gets taken out early, to hype up the true final villain of the story, whoever that may be.

There's just so many question marks around Blackbeard right now.

I also personally don't believe Imu's going to turn out to be the villain everyone might think they are. I think Oda's going to add in a twist there. So, if Imu's not really the villain we think, there wouldn't be as much of a reason for Blackbeard and Luffy to team up. But, that's another topic altogether.

 

[gz89]

Idk about Shanks, maybe Loda will finally let Kid beat him.

I have more chances to become the president of the USA (i'm living in Europe) than KKS.

 

[Kumathegoat]

I can see it happen before laugh tale

 

[Cruxroux]

Idk about Shanks, maybe Loda will finally let Kid beat him

Bro thought he could sneak this in and we won't. But we did.

 

[Erkan12]

So I’ve been thinking about how Oda could handle Imu and Teach

One possibility I’ve made several posts about is Teach becoming Imu’s ally and falling to Luffy’s allies like BM did. But I recently thought of another possibility that I think could make more sense.

What if Luffy and Teach ally? In wano, BM and Kaido allied to defeat common enemies. BM and Kaido were still rivals and wanted to beat each other, but they wanted to defeat their common enemies first before fighting each other.

What if Luffy and the other yonko do that? agreeing to defeat Imu and the WG before duking it out amongst themselves?

I think this would essentially lead to OP having a naruto-like ending. First you have the big war against Imu where everyone teams up against Imu. Then you have the final 1v1s of the series.

Luffy vs Teach
Zoro vs Mihawk

Idk about Shanks, maybe Loda will finally let Kid beat him. Else he could die in the war, possibly a victim to Imu.

Anyways I do think this would work. However, Oda is a very formulaic author and this doesn’t really fit past arc formulas. Still, maybe Oda will break the formula for the last arc, which would make sense and tbh should be expected. This would also fit Oda’s comments about a free for all.

This is not new since Imu cut both Luffy and Teach posters and revealed the ancient connections between their bloodlines.

Luffy took Kaido's place Wano, Kaido has zoan, Luffy has zoan.
Teach took BM's daughter Pudding, BM has paramecia, Teach paramecia.

BM has soul powers, Teach probably has a unique ability about souls, and BM has versatility and has 3 main weapons Napoleon, Zeus and Promotheus. Teach has versatility and has 3 main weapons; Darkness, Quake, and Pistols.

Both Kaido and BM were fighting each other for a long time but surprisingly end up as allies, Oda can surprise people and made Luffy and Teach temporary allies as well against Government.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I have more chances to become the president of the USA (i'm living in Europe) than KKS.

By that point in the story, Shanks will no longer be relevant

Luffy will be a god tier
Zoro will be fighting someone who is supposedly stronger than Shanks

If Shanks survives till EoS, which tbh he has a good shot at doing since Oda hardly kills anyone, I don’t see any reason why not. Worst gen > mid gen after all.

 

[SkySanji]

Luffy will never work with Blackbeard, and Blackbeard isn't the final villain, Imu is.

 

[Blax Blah]

Luffy will never work with Blackbeard, and Blackbeard isn't the final villain, Imu is.

Maybe so, but I agree that Luffy wouldn't work with Blackbeard, personally I think Blackbeard's logia is a zoan fruit model Imu,

 

[MonochromeYoru]

 

[Juanpiz]

No nah nope

 

[Blackbeard]

So I’ve been thinking about how Oda could handle Imu and Teach

One possibility I’ve made several posts about is Teach becoming Imu’s ally and falling to Luffy’s allies like BM did. But I recently thought of another possibility that I think could make more sense.

What if Luffy and Teach ally? In wano, BM and Kaido allied to defeat common enemies. BM and Kaido were still rivals and wanted to beat each other, but they wanted to defeat their common enemies first before fighting each other.

What if Luffy and the other yonko do that? agreeing to defeat Imu and the WG before duking it out amongst themselves?

I think this would essentially lead to OP having a naruto-like ending. First you have the big war against Imu where everyone teams up against Imu. Then you have the final 1v1s of the series.

Luffy vs Teach
Zoro vs Mihawk

Idk about Shanks, maybe Loda will finally let Kid beat him. Else he could die in the war, possibly a victim to Imu.

Anyways I do think this would work. However, Oda is a very formulaic author and this doesn’t really fit past arc formulas. Still, maybe Oda will break the formula for the last arc, which would make sense and tbh should be expected. This would also fit Oda’s comments about a free for all.

 

[nik87]

He is as much of an ally as he was in Marineford, an ally of no one.
He will probably be off-screened most of the time and show up only to deliver the last blow on Imu.

 

[trav]

Luffy will have to either let BB get One Piece and become PK or defeating WG/Imu.

It would have way more impact that way.

 

[vikas]

Two trash villains teaming up

 

[MonsterKaido]

Nah. He will not be a direct ally. If BBPs are final villain then BB can come and steal imu's powers or something alone that lines.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Definitely not an ally, but he can indirectly help Luffy with bring a danger to the WG elsewhere in the New World.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

They'll definitely ally. It will be an inversion of god valley. Instead of the pirate king and the government teaming up to defeat rocks it will be the new pirate king and the new rocks teaming up to defeat the government

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

There are so many other figures involved that all kinds of crazy stuff could happen. I think Law will ally again with SHs. The SHs need Law’s strategy and tactics and abilities in the long run. Law with SHs would likely prevent a BB team up. But I do see that Luffy’s abilities and BB’s abilities, teamed up, being quite potent in battle.

 

[JoyBoyRoy]

Even if it's possible, I wouldn't compare Luffy/Blackbeard to Kaido/Big Mom considering the latter actually had history being part of the Rocks Pirates and fighting together. Sure they became rivals eventually but that's not how their relationship started, they got along at some point when they were young. Big Mom even helped Kaido get his fruit. Luffy and Blackbeard have always been antagonistic towards each other, even in their first interaction with the cherry pies.