Questions & Mysteries Blackbeard will be harder to beat then imu

Who will end up stronger?


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#22
''One Piece is a story based on fighting Pirates called Emperors''
-Oda



Thus, these 4 are shown in bigger panels than others:



Even when Imu and Dragon has underlings in these panels same as Teach has underling Aokiji, Imu or Dragon are still in smaller panel while 4 Emperors are in bigger panels.

@Logiko opinion pls,

I agree, and I think that Imu and the world governement fits into it well, because being a pirate is not about being an outlaw, disregarding morality, wanting riches, or anything like that, being a pirate is about being free, and that includes being free from tyrannies and from beings like Imu, so Imu being an enemy, maybe especially so if the emperors work together against Imu, is very much like a story about pirates,
 
#24
@Logiko opinion pls,
This is something that we have been knowing for a long time. Oda is bad at planning.

I think this panel, is Oda showing us the for main protagonist of the final war and teasing us the main villain.

Right now, I'm on the fence about blackbeard. I think there is a reason to think he could be the last ennemy of Luffy, but Imu is very likely too.

Blackbeard makes sence storytelling wise, it's the real antagonist in a classical narrative way of looking at the story. But Imu, seems to be even more threatenning.

Now.. It could also mean that Imu COULD be fought by someone else. Someone relative to Luffy in term of narrative importance. It could be Koby that I wouldn't be surprised.
 
#25
Blackbeard has, likely in his view, the most powerful Logia and Paramecia fruits.

I'm of the belief he, like Rocks, desires the world, and will not only kill Imu, but also take his DF, which I believe will be, again likely in his view, the most powerful Zoan fruit (source of Gorosei immortality and powers).

Alternatively it's a Zoan fruit currently in possesion of Dragon (current all time highest bounty).
 
#26
@Logiko opinion pls,

I agree, and I think that Imu and the world governement fits into it well, because being a pirate is not about being an outlaw, disregarding morality, wanting riches, or anything like that, being a pirate is about being free, and that includes being free from tyrannies and from beings like Imu, so Imu being an enemy, maybe especially so if the emperors work together against Imu, is very much like a story about pirates,
This is something that we have been knowing for a long time. Oda is bad at planning.

I think this panel, is Oda showing us the for main protagonist of the final war and teasing us the main villain.

Right now, I'm on the fence about blackbeard. I think there is a reason to think he could be the last ennemy of Luffy, but Imu is very likely too.

Blackbeard makes sence storytelling wise, it's the real antagonist in a classical narrative way of looking at the story. But Imu, seems to be even more threatenning.

Now.. It could also mean that Imu COULD be fought by someone else. Someone relative to Luffy in term of narrative importance. It could be Koby that I wouldn't be surprised.
Imu doesn't control New World territories, or he doesn't even control some territories in 4 blue.

Oda adding Warlords to the story was only to hype 4 Emperors more. Because the existence of Warlords is for countering 4 Emperors. Government alone isn't powerful enough so Oda at first wasn't going to add Warlords to the story, but then he decided to make 4 Emperors even more powerful that the Government needs to hire other pirates to fight against them.

We've seen Sword Marine members such as Koby and former Marine now pirate underling Aokiji, as well as 2 Revolutionaries in that final page as well. What are their objectives? To counter Government.

Pirates will keep ruling new world. Imu had to send 1 Admiral, a lot of Vice-admirals, CP0 agents, all of 5 Elders to counter just 1 Emperor when that 1 Emperor wasn't expecting to fight all of those people and they didn't have any preparation. Inside help from Vegapunk was countered from betrayal from York, and they desperately need York to use their ancient weapon. Imagine if they have preparations and getting help from other pirates next time. If pirates gets other 2 ancient weapons, when Celestial Dragons supplies are in danger as well, the things aren't looking good for them. We also know Fujitora is also acting like a free agent there, he isn't really loyal, and Kizaru also proved that he isn't reliable as well.
 
#27
This is something that we have been knowing for a long time. Oda is bad at planning.

I think this panel, is Oda showing us the for main protagonist of the final war and teasing us the main villain.

Right now, I'm on the fence about blackbeard. I think there is a reason to think he could be the last ennemy of Luffy, but Imu is very likely too.

Blackbeard makes sence storytelling wise, it's the real antagonist in a classical narrative way of looking at the story. But Imu, seems to be even more threatenning.

Now.. It could also mean that Imu COULD be fought by someone else. Someone relative to Luffy in term of narrative importance. It could be Koby that I wouldn't be surprised.
Thank you so much, and @Erkan12 , you like Blackbeard, I would like to ask you and everybody especially about this,

Blackbeard may the final villain in Luffy's story, but Luffy is a guy, Monkey D. Luffy, he is not a god,

Joyboy may be, if Joyboy is Nika then he is, the one who carries 800 years of history on their back, the god, the saviour,

The darkness of the world, which may have to do with Imu, who may have darkness themed powers too, since his throne room was called hell, may have caused all, or a lot, of Blackbeard's suffering,

Blackbeard despite having done a lot of evil as an adult, was a child once too, and we do not know much of his past, but we have seen him cry and be sad,

Maybe he embraced the darkness of the world that was opressing him, and thought he could only become " a winner ", like he talks about in the thread you made Erkan12, "Those who fear death are the losers", by embracing the darkness, when actually he will only freedom if he gives that darkness up,

He does not have to be a villain, he does not have to be defeated, he doesn't have to be crying and sad and embracing darkness, he doesn't have to cheat others, he doesn't have to dismiss morality, as we saw him do in marineford where he said there are no wrong or right answers to what is good and what is right in this world, he can have comrades and friends and life and hope and warmth, and I think he needs to see that,

Yes, he is right that in the world, in Imu's world, Imu being the god of the world, there is no right and wrong, no morality and no answers to the question of right and wrong, but Imu themselves is not the actual god, not the actual answer and truth, Nika is, and so Blackbeard will find the answer he seeks, not in the world, but from someone outside of the world, from Nika,

What do you think?,
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I do not want to dismiss Blackbeard, and if Imu turns out to be an actual person, and not a wicked spirit that is the embodiment of evil, then I do not want to dismiss them either,

Blackbeard, like Luffy, like anyone, is just a guy, and from the bit of it we have seen, maybe a guy who was hurt a lot and was not saved from that darkness yet, but he can be,
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#28
Thank you so much, and @Erkan12 , you like Blackbeard, I would like to ask you and everybody especially about this,

Blackbeard may the final villain in Luffy's story, but Luffy is a guy, Monkey D. Luffy, he is not a god,

Joyboy may be, if Joyboy is Nika then he is, the one who carries 800 years of history on their back, the god, the saviour,

The darkness of the world, which may have to do with Imu, who may have darkness themed powers too, since his throne room was called hell, may have caused all, or a lot, of Blackbeard's suffering,

Blackbeard despite having done a lot of evil as an adult, was a child once too, and we do not know much of his past, but we have seen him cry and be sad,

Maybe he embraced the darkness of the world that was opressing him, and thought he could only become " a winner ", like he talks about in the thread you made Erkan12, "Those who fear death are the losers", by embracing the darkness, when actually he will only freedom if he gives that darkness up,

He does not have to be a villain, he does not have to be defeated, he doesn't have to be crying and sad and embracing darkness, he doesn't have to cheat others, he doesn't have to dismiss morality, as we saw him do in marineford where he said there are no wrong or right answers to what is good and what is right in this world, he can have comrades and friends and life and hope and warmth, and I think he needs to see that,

Yes, he is right that in the world, in Imu's world, Imu being the god of the world, there is no right and wrong, no morality and no answers to the question of right and wrong, but Imu themselves is not the actual god, not the actual answer and truth, Nika is, and so Blackbeard will find the answer he seeks, not in the world, but from someone outside of the world, from Nika,

What do you think?,
Those who fear death are the losers, because he believes he needs to leave things to the fate.

He believes in it so strongly that he could easily gave up on his ambition after several years inside of that strong bond crew WB Pirates, and he could be part of them but his will is too strong he kept believing in fate and searched for the darkness DF.

When he found darkness, darkness tested Teach once more by forcing him to kill his crewmate Thatch, he knew doing that would make WB pirates his enemy, but he did it knowing the consequences.

Some clowns who claimed that Teach was scared of death simply have no reading comprehension despite all the crazy risks that Teach took in his life, surprise reactions isn't equal to constantly being afraid, otherwise Kaido, BM, Shanks, Luffy, all of those people are cowards just because they were surprised at the threats they are facing with.
 
#29
I have 2 theories with Teach killing imu
1.Teach will kill imu and absorbs his powers also loda has hint that Teach can absorb souls/personalities so luffy doesn't have to meet imu Teach current target is MJ btw
2.in the FW luffy is fighting imu kurohige appears and kills him he absorb his powers and later fight luffy
 
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