[FNZ] Super Role Madness Bleach Soul Society Arc

[Kobe]

Michelle actually town read you. After tmSoul's flip, I re-evaluated some reads, though also:
What you are missing here is that the Indie, whose identity I know, claimed to have hard mech info that you were town. Given that I knew them, I weighed up the likelihood of them lying about it, and figured it made little sense given the evidence to hand. With you then as very very likely town, it was time to build a town core with the indie as a proxy. It isn't really about you, the player. Anyone with your role would have been treated the same way. Your contention really lies in how I could have been sure the Indie wasn't lying to me, ti which I say, based off of the conversation I had with him and what I know of the player, I was confident that most of what was said was the truth.

So you flipped Soul before he was flipped? Michelle NEVER town read me.

 

[MUUGEN]

@Ratchet what are your thoughts on blue and dest?

 

[Ratchet]

Broki and Reborn did this in Weebs when they were pressuring me. I don't think you are less experienced than them that you would make an obvious error şn judgement like that.

You've yet to establish that it *was* an error in judgement at all. If you're town, then my play was the correct one, and moreover if the Indie turns out to be, at worst, neutral (at least for now) then my play is even optimal. The problem however is you're not able to figure out why or how I could develop this confidence in a read of a player from limited behaviour, so your inclination is to believe that it must either be an error or faked. The truth is that my information pool is not the same as yours, both from an experience level with the player at hand and with what I myself know. You don't know my role, either, or how that may factor in to my decision, but these are all elements that you ignore that you really shouldn't.

I will say that I'm only going to appeal to reason for so long here. If, as my current inclination is leaning towards as being the case, you remain unable to reconcile this as behaviour that isn't either stupid or scum, I'm more than happy to just ignore your slot and build out my solve individually. I don't really stand to gain anything by interacting with someone who can't be reasoned with.

 

[Ratchet]

So you flipped Soul before he was flipped? Michelle NEVER town read me.

She did. When I out you forward she explicitly told me that she disagreed with scum reading you - I would have to check to see if her read changed again but I can find the quotes for this too (later).

 

[Ratchet]

@Ratchet what are your thoughts on blue and dest?

Blue good
Dest bad

Need to give X time to get into the game though.

 

[Kobe]

You've yet to establish that it *was* an error in judgement at all. If you're town, then my play was the correct one, and moreover if the Indie turns out to be, at worst, neutral (at least for now) then my play is even optimal. The problem however is you're not able to figure out why or how I could develop this confidence in a read of a player from limited behaviour, so your inclination is to believe that it must either be an error or faked. The truth is that my information pool is not the same as yours, both from an experience level with the player at hand and with what I myself know. You don't know my role, either, or how that may factor in to my decision, but these are all elements that you ignore that you really shouldn't.

I will say that I'm only going to appeal to reason for so long here. If, as my current inclination is leaning towards as being the case, you remain unable to reconcile this as behaviour that isn't either stupid or scum, I'm more than happy to just ignore your slot and build out my solve individually. I don't really stand to gain anything by interacting with someone who can't be reasoned with.

You do this every game. Do something and expect people to follow. More ofen than not you have a clear personal agenda which seems to be case here.

When you are town-aligned you also get paranoid. I don't see that edginess. You seem fake.

 

[Kobe]

She did. When I out you forward she explicitly told me that she disagreed with scum reading you - I would have to check to see if her read changed again but I can find the quotes for this too (later).

?????

LMAO

 

[Kobe]

Blue good
Dest bad

Need to give X time to get into the game though.

Why do you think Blue is good? On which ground?

 

[MUUGEN]

found this bit quite hilarious from you rat - this was at 4:29 my time I didnt even make a post since last cycle and then I entered the game at 6:10 just about 2 hrs after that - there was few things that pinged me from ratchet at the start of cycle when i joined in.

namely this post along with a few others, im necessarily convinced with rats claim cause i have division 10 as traitors more so kenpachi but i have seen quite a few Ikkaku abilities as well.

reading this seems redundant since he EoD was town reading me then randomly went to scum reading me here. felt forced and ingenuine

& who the hell is JW here?

Anyway, I've had my fun. Was hoping for Muugen's input too but he's probably lurking his scum chat now anyway.

I'm Kenpachi. Town Vig. Firstly, I hinted towards being Kenpachi earlier in the game, when Prof was speculated as such:




I backfilled my reasoning here - I expect if I don't bring this up now, someone will try and play it as a gotcha.

Then, the Vig part:



You could say I was inspired by Ultra for this one. Notice that the first word has three letters capitilised. G-I-V. If you put them in reverse, you get V-I-G. Vig.

I was blocked Day 1, though I didn't use anything anyway.

Night 1 I killed John Wayne. I was redirected, and also had my ability downgraded. It ws redirected to Pot. People get told when they are targeted by me, which is why I asked.

I know all this because I'm informed when I'm hit with a "harmful" or "intrusive" ability, and then I gain immunity to it. I'm also death-proof - only the top level kills and game removals work on me. I'm weak to rolecrushes, but I have an ability that makes me immune to them for a phase.



^This is mine. If you remove the ???, it will say Pot, because again, I was redirected.



^This is also mine. This is the ability that makes me immune to rolecrushes.

Apollo claiming that only lynches work, but not really demanding people join, I think is fairly telling. He should be the lynch today.

hahahahaha you want to say I’m scum what is your evidence after you’ve been town reading me, oh wait it was a bait to pocket me even while I never let up my scum read on you ?

my response - the fact that he went out of his way to single me out as if i was in the game and participating then. just as stated it felt more like bait since at that point i was a town read from ratchet end D1.

Are you thick or just pretending?

clearly stated i had just stated and responded to a random TAC post that much was obvious i wasnt even in the loop yet - i mightve even said si when i began casing psy and kekko there

idk why did you claim I just joined the thread are you fucking that dense ? You tagged me in something stupid so I treated it as such

just saw his claim for kenpachi only reason why i allowed him to just roam after that i was able to just focus on kekko

if it wasn’t for your claim I would hold you in a higher pile of scum

rat in typical fashion proceeds to his condescending tone after i just stated i just joined the thread and i was asking why he even claimed to begin with.

I had someone (Apollo) come forward claiming a Guilty on me. I don't know what you do Muugen, but common sense tends to mean that the one with the Guilty on them full claims.

If you can't manage the basic expectation of reading the thread, then just don't bother. If you can, start from here and *read*, instead of insulting everyone you don't like.


https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/bleach-soul-society-arc.40179/page-208#post-4142253

Noted to me is that you haven't tried to consider the claim either, just dismissed it with nonsense and "outs him as scum even more" - I would love to know how claiming in this context is "outing" in any capacity but I don't think I'll get an answer.

overall his random sus on me feels forced and faked.

never showed any inclination of scum reading me EoD.

 

[Ratchet]

You do this every game. Do something and expect people to follow. More ofen than not you have a clear personal agenda which seems to be case here.

When you are town-aligned you also get paranoid. I don't see that edginess. You seem fake.

Paranoia comes and goes. Depends on many factors, such as read on the game.

But really, none of it requires an expectation that you just follow. I believe building up a town core is fundamental to winning these SRM games as Town, hence my desire to do so. Frankly, this is what the neighbour should be doing, but I've been critical enough of their action choices. I will say there isn't any "personal" agenda - I enjoy Mafia the game too much to allow my personal feelings towards players affect it. Like I told you a few replies ago - the majority of players I neither like or dislike, and even the ones I do dislike I will work with if it offers the best chance of winning.

 

[MUUGEN]

Blue good
Dest bad

Need to give X time to get into the game though.

what makes blue good?

 

[Ratchet]

Why do you think Blue is good? On which ground?

Is this a genuine question? I kind of answer it by asking this, actually, but to keep up appearances- you know my position on this player.

& who the hell is JW here?

UWU.

never showed any inclination of scum reading me EoD.

Not sure why you're so hung up on this - it's not like I need to be attached to a read.

what makes blue good?

The bonds of the heart see the truth.

 

[MUUGEN]

Ratchet given both mine and your claim why are you ok with a wagon forming on hime?

 

[Ratchet]

@Mashiro Blue It's *probably* time to clear this up.

 

[Ratchet]

Ratchet given both mine and your claim why are you ok with a wagon forming on hime?

Am I okay with a wagon? I believe I've been asking for Melkor.

But this game isn't going to be solved by flavour anyway. In fact it's mostly dismissable.

 

[Ultra]

what makes blue good?

They're waifubros they got a silent contract

 

[Kobe]

Lmao selling Blue when pressured

> Town aligned

he said.

 

[MUUGEN]

Not sure why you're so hung up on this - it's not like I need to be attached to a read.

so what changed from EoD to me not even speaking til hrs after day start to go from town to scum?

The bonds of the heart see the truth.

so you have nothing?

nice read.


the fact youre using JW and not UwU alone is telling especially for someone who has went out of their way to tell me not to refer to certain players by names outside of WG.

 

[MUUGEN]

They're waifubros they got a silent contract

i know that but blue has done jack shit - mango is my waifubro but i dont mind reading him scum when i see he is playing as such.

 

[Ultra]

Pero dipped so hard even I forgot I was suspecting him