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Spiritual and life that function differently from reiryoku not all spiritual energy are created equally. Just FYI haki is also spiritual energy and so is chakra.
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Mortal = Subject to death.
Immortal = Not subject to death.
Shinigami = Are subject to death.

They are by definition mortal. No amount of you not understanding definitions will change that fact.
they don't but l like how you try to attempt to think they do naturally.

Immortal = Not subject to death.
zamasu and Majin buu were stated to be immortal and yet they died. So this whole argument falls flat.

Subject to death + Subject to senescence = Subject to death by senescence.
subject to senescence yet can't die from that naturally make it make sense my dude. You use barragan as an example but most immortals in db verse would die from his abilities as well.
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Clorox fails the 2 finger test
That won't effect a shinigami.
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Dude fucking Kenpachi is one of the top 5 characters, dude is just about insane AP, nothing else and even he is "just" max country lvl, even Luffy Bajrung Gun scales above Kenpachi AP feat, imagine this...
and yet Luffy would be cut in half. Also luffy's ap was never high. Destructive wise it is but ap is not even close at all.


One of the strongest close combat fighter in Bleach, so strong that he is in Yhwach list, without any hax, is one of the strongest.
yes one of the strongest in terms of combat but kenpachi is not very skilled overall.

But a planet nuking Sayajin far above that guy, isn't?
who are you referring to?
 
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Spiritual and life that function differently from reiryoku not all spiritual energy are created equally. Just FYI haki is also spiritual energy and so is chakra.
Yes, so let's say even Kuja pirates can detect and hurt shinigamis.
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zamasu and Majin buu were stated to be immortal and yet they died. So this whole argument falls flat.
The difference is that they died by completely unconditional methods, meanwhile shinigamis like Yamamoto were killed simply because they got cut in half.

There are levels of immortality. There is immortality when they don't die when their physical body is destroyed. So they need to be destroyed on several planes of existence. Saint Seiya has lots of these characters.

At best, you can argue shinigamis have the lowest form of immortality or near immortality: Not dying of age but like @Owl Ki proved you wrong since - you know, Barragan exists - shinigamis are just glorified elves in spiritual but tangible form. So basically, just like elves...
 
Yes, so let's say even Kuja pirates can detect and hurt shinigamis.
detect? Yes. Hurt? That's debatable they don't have physical bodies like a humans do but spiritual bodies. Can one piece characters damage souls and spirits with haki? Brook and big mom are probably the only people in that series that I can think of that can damage a shinigami since both of their powers are soul related.
 
@BoaHancocksHusband Big Daddy Saran pre warehouse gains vs Bleach verse how far does he get
So before he mechanized his island and stuff? Well thats not a big nerf for Big Daddy Saran since his island being heavily fortified just increases his boredom. With his Wazemono blade "Adonis" I doubt anyone below Captain level will keep up, and alongside his Devil Fruit the Awakened Indron Indron No Mi, he can turn into lightning, put lightning in his blade, strike down people by summoning lightning, it'd be a OP version of Enel, who knows all three advanced haki types, that is not to mention the fact he has Big Mom's toughness gene factor as well. He should clear everyone Captain level at least till like the TYBW arc. The biggest issue would be Ywach, if not for him I'd be 99% sure he solos.
 
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