Powers & Abilities Blunt force Shockwave Swordsmanship? Since when?

#22
Nope. Zoro’s pre time skip Tatsumaki doesn’t cut. It’s simply a wind tunnel
Are you out of your mind.. Reread Hachi vs Zoro..

I don't get this '' Shockwave '' agenda, it was never stated that any Zoro attacks are Shockwave, they are just Air Attacks.. And it wasn't even stated that Rocks attack was a Shockwave either, it's a mistake from the spoiler providers..

Only one of Zoro's attack with Swords didn't cut and it's the one in Whiskey Peak, but that wasn't a flying attack it was Zoro moving through those guys.. The word, Kanji '' Wave '' in the attack doesn't refer to '' Shockwave '', it refers to '' Sea Waves ''..
 
#24
Except that Vivre card that calls rhino cycle a shockwave

And let me guess, you want me to believe your opinions over the vivre cards too right?
Again the Vivre Card non sense..

I will give you one thing though.. It does seem that Zoro is using the Back of both of his Swords for that attack.. So
i don't know if it's cutting or not, most likely not.. Its still an Air attack like Tatsumaki, there are no '' Shockwave '' involved..
 
#25
Again the Vivre Card non sense..

I will give you one thing though.. It does seem that Zoro is using the Back of both of his Swords for that attack.. So
i don't know if it's cutting or not, most likely not.. Its still an Air attack like Tatsumaki, there are no '' Shockwave '' involved..
Yes the vivre card nonsense which is better than YOUR HEADCANON NONSENSE

This going to forever be your biggest problem, the fact that you weirdly think what you make up in your head is worth discussing as if it’s real
 
#26
Yes the vivre card nonsense which is better than YOUR HEADCANON NONSENSE

This going to forever be your biggest problem, the fact that you weirdly think what you make up in your head is worth discussing as if it’s real
The Vivre Cards aren't canon, never will.. There's literally 0% chance that Oda was directly in charge of that and described Zoro's attack as a '' Shockwave '' when it's another Air attack like Tatsumaki..

I'm willing to grant you, cause i'm very generous but my generosity has its limits on the non Sense..

Yes, Zoro's Rhyno Cycle Sword Attack is an '' Air Bar '' attack similar to Roger's Kamusari Sword '' Haki Bar '' attack.. Zoro has proven he can execute a non cutting Air Sword attack, which i was claiming he didn't have.. That's as far as i'm willing to go, and you should take your win and leave it at that..
 
#29
Oda said they are canon and I believe Oda. I believe Oda OVER YOU.
Wrong.. Oda would of never approved of Shockwave for an attack that's clearly Air based.. It's another instance where Vivre cards are failing.. Just like Roger's Kamusari was Yellow in Vivre Cards when its actually Black Red..

Most Manga mistakes get rectified when Manga volumes come out, Vivre Cards mistake don't get corrected.. Its really bad to rely on Vivre cards for any Agenda..
 
#30
Trying to prove zoro has done any of these things is a losing argument

The argument is there are different styles of swordsmanship

divine departure is one of those
whatever xebec is doing is another
whatever zoro currently does is another
all under the same guise of swordmanship


what you will get is people who argue on about whether zoro has produced similar attacks from what we see with xebec, roger, harald etc as opposed to the grander/bigger idea.

Zoro isnt the definition of swordmanship in the story .
 
#31
Zoro can do long range slashes/shockwaves, but they cut/slice up his opponents, Xebec's sword strikes usually don't cut, but can cause massive blunt force damage or even explosions.
Zoro has multiple attacks that don’t cut. As shown in the panels I posted
Trying to prove zoro has done any of these things is a losing argument
i mean there’s panels in the original post
 
#33
Trying to prove zoro has done any of these things is a losing argument

The argument is there are different styles of swordsmanship

divine departure is one of those
whatever xebec is doing is another
whatever zoro currently does is another
all under the same guise of swordmanship


what you will get is people who argue on about whether zoro has produced similar attacks from what we see with xebec, roger, harald etc as opposed to the grander/bigger idea.

Zoro isnt the definition of swordmanship in the story .
I promise you Zoro has used shockwaves just like Xebec. It is indeed swordsmanship
 
#37
Yeah he has some low level attacks that can do some kind of push, but nothing even close to Xebec, his attacks look like he's wielding a rocket launcher instead of a sword.
It being a low level attack doesn’t change that he can and has done it… it becomes more a matter of specialization than anything else.

For example zoro has only 1 known stabbing attack. Whereas Brook’s entire fencing swordsmanship is about stabbing, that’s literally the point of fencing.

Brook specializes in stabbing attacks compared to Zoro because that’s the point of his swordsmanship

So Zoro has a few shockwave attacks while Xebec uses them as his specialization the way Brook specializes in stabbing attacks.

Btw, we even have the opposite situation for Zoro. Zoro is the only swordsman who regularly switch the number of swords he uses in his sword combat as part of specialization. This is a thing ONLY ZORO DOES.

But notice that everyone else can also sort of do it. We’ve seen the scabbard switch to Oden’s 2 sword style when they were attacking Kaido. So they all have the capacity to be two sword style fighters, they just SPECIALIZE in one sword style combat while Zoro makes his ability to switch the number of swords he uses as his signature fighting style.

Similarly we have Oden who is a two sword style user that never uses 1sword style since that’s not his thing, though of course he knows how to use 1 sword
 
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