General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[Sir Yasheen]

That had be an interesting debate for who's most important in the lore. My point is i think King's race is the tip of the iceberg.

Which his race may be important but I feel MADS will relate back to the creation of devil fruits which I think is one of the big questions of one piece

 

[Rootbeer]

Which his race may be important but I feel MADS will relate back to the creation of devil fruits which I think is one of the big questions of one piece

Well if King's bounty is squeeze between Marco and Queen, might as well reveal it in a vivre card as the hype is gone..

 

[matt245]

I don’t know how to do multiple quotes like you

If you are on pc, just slide your cursor while holding m1 to make the text blue and then you hit quote/reply.

CLEARLY I was talking about the patterns between the commanders bounties
Not between zoro and sanji’s previous bounties

Look at the difference between Cracker smoothie and katakuri
Look at the difference between jack queen and king (pretty sure king is getting either 1.32 or at most 1.4)

the difference is very small
Between number 1 and 2

after wano luffy is becoming a yonko
Zoro and sanji are his first and second commanders

by the clear patterns they are getting a very close bounties

Again, your problem is thinking that Zoro is Luffy's King when in reality he is Luffy's ray. Not his 1st commander, but his RHM and vice-captain. The difference between both of them is abismal. And as you can see, the difference between Sanji's bounty and Zoro's after a specific arc is rather big. Not close.

The point is robin’s bounty is clear evidence that bounties don’t always make sense

she is one of the most dangerous peoples in the world and got only a pathetic 130m

Facts.

Maybe ray and beckmen will broke the pattern in the future
I don’t know
I can’t talk about that
But I can talk about what I have in front of me now

I don’t have to wait for anything more
I got a clear patterns from 2/3 crews
That a captain’s bounty >>>>>>>>his first commander
And yc1 and yc2 bounties are very very close

That’s enough evidence

and please tell me when has oda ever said RHM>first commander

Again, your problem is thinking that 1st commander=RHM/vice-captain. You are basically saying that King is Kaido's Ray when it isn't. You don't need any confirmation from Oda to realize the difference between someone like Benn/Ray and somone like Kata/King. When characters are addressed in a different way, the difference is obvious.

It does matter a lot because that shows how strong and dangerous he is , he’s comparable to roger and some may think even stronger and he has the power to destroy the world, sengoku said it himself

Still that didn’t help marco getting higher bounty than the average for a yonko commander

Kaido is the world strongest creature
Still that wouldn’t help king much since he’s getting the same average bounty for a yc1

Again pay close attention to the patterns
no I don’t have any statements
I call the second strongest after the captain a RHM

now can you tell me when did oda said RHM/vice captain > first commander??????

Bounties= strength+threat level. Someone that kills innocent ppl are a bigger threat than someone who is rather chill. Look at Kidd, killing ppl basically boosted his bounty. And what you call a RHM doesn't rlly matter because it isn't true. You can basically look at the definition of it. Either that or look at characters who were introduced as the RHM of someone. You can call King however you want, he isn't Kaido's RHM. Ray was introduced as the RHM of his captain, Kata wasn't, King wasn't, Shiryu wasn't. The difference is obvious.

You’re clearly mad
And this is why its so hard having discussions with zoro fans because they are too emotional
I feel like when anyone say anything bad about zoro they actually get personally offended

We are just talking and having fun
It’s not that serious

But I hope you got my point
Me saying zoro’s EOS bounty is 2b is NOT because he’s weak or not strong enough

It’s because he’s not the captain
From what we saw
the first commander the right hand man the vice captain
Whatever you want to call it
Has always had a much much lower bounty than his captain

Luffy and zoro I think will follow the same pattern
That’s it

Disagreeing with =/= being mad. Y'know. My point still stands, a RHM is different from a 1YC. King was introduced as the 1C of Kaido, Ray was introduced as Roger's RHM. And you don't rlly need to be very clever to realize the difference.

 

[Gyro The God]

Well if King's bounty is squeeze between Marco and Queen, might as well reveal it in a vivre card as the hype is gone..

Do you think it’s just a strange coincidence that zoro and sanji’s bounties are 320m and 330m
And queen’s bounty is 1.32b
??

 

[matt245]

Honestly I think oda did a terrible job with explaining clearly what does have a certain bounty means exactly

sometimes you feel its an actual power level system

And sometimes you feel it’s only about threat level (like if you did bad things you get a high bounty even if you’re weak)

And sometimes its neither like with robin

I follow Aikiji's words. Higher bounty = higher threat to the WG and to our main cast. Simple. And regarding Robin, they might not even know about her abilities. Either that or the one making the bounties is dumb af.

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Do you think it’s just a strange coincidence that zoro and sanji’s bounties are 320m and 330m
And queen’s bounty is 1.32b
??

Ok and?

 

[Rootbeer]

Do you think it’s just a strange coincidence that zoro and sanji’s bounties are 320m and 330m
And queen’s bounty is 1.32b
??

I'd be very surprised if Oda make it more than a one off gag..
If you're unaware there's also the mr. 2 and mr. 1 comparison, 32 million and 75 million..

 

[matt245]

I'd be very surprised if Oda make it more than a one off gag..
If you're unaware there's also the mr. 2 and mr. 1 comparison, 32 million and 75 million..

It's funny because to make that gag, Oda got rid of Zoro for 1 entire arc where Sanji was the main focus just to get 10M more. If we are comparing bounties after leaving an arc where they were all involved; Luffy: 500M Zoro: 320M, Sanji: 177M.

 

[Gyro The God]

This is a legit question
Where did you get that from?

I don’t remember it had been stated anywhere that RHM> first commander
What is the difference between the 2 in terms of power???

for me they both means the same
2nd strongest

do you have an actual quote from oda or a panel from the manga ?

zoro is luffy’s king/marco/ray/beckmen/katakuri
He’s the second strongest in his crew
That’s it

You can’t state opinions like they’re facts

 

[Electricmastro]

Interesting how Lindbergh, Pedro, and Pekoms were givens bounties over 300 million, even though they’re minks.

 

[matt245]

This is a legit question
Where did you get that from?

I don’t remember it had been stated anywhere that RHM> first commander
What is the difference between the 2 in terms of power???

for me they both means the same
2nd strongest

do you have an actual quote from oda or a panel from the manga ?

zoro is luffy’s king/marco/ray/beckmen/katakuri
He’s the second strongest in his crew
That’s it

You can’t state opinions like they’re facts

The difference is clear. Ray was stated as the RHM of his captain, someone who was capable of fighting his own captain wihtout getting low diffed. Benn is introduced as the vice-captain and Shank's RHM. Again, stated to be comparable to his captain. And now you have King, Kata, Shiryu... who were introduced as the 1C and they couldn't even hold a candle for their captain. But hey, if you still want to compare Ray with the likes of Kata, King and Shiryu then keep going.

 

[Gyro The God]

I follow Aikiji's words. Higher bounty = higher threat to the WG and to our main cast. Simple. And regarding Robin, they might not even know about her abilities. Either that or the one making the bounties is dumb af.

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Ok and?

Then aokiji is full of shit
Unless you think trash like bellemy is bigger threat than robin who could bring the ancient weapons back

 

[matt245]

Interesting how Lindbergh, Pedro, and Pekoms were givens bounties over 300 million, even though they’re minks.

Tbh 300M is quite decent. And they were fairly strong, now add sulong on top of that and the fact that they sell very well as slaves...

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Then aokiji is full of shit
Unless you think trash like bellemy is bigger threat than robin who could bring the ancient weapons back

My point still stands. Aokiji knows more about bounties than you. And there isn't even a single hint that shows that the WG is aware of Robin's knowledge. Imagine thinking that your opinion regarding bounties>An Admiral's opinion.

 

[Ballel]

dude, frankly, how did you get Roger bounty there? How long you've been herein this forum?
I'm newbie with 30mil bounty only meh...

Is's this:

As long as he never almost dies from a nosebleed its all good

It't his fierceness that gets him his likes.

 

[Gyro The God]

The difference is clear. Ray was stated as the RHM of his captain, someone who was capable of fighting his own captain wihtout getting low diffed. Benn is introduced as the vice-captain and Shank's RHM. Again, stated to be comparable to his captain. And now you have King, Kata, Shiryu... who were introduced as the 1C and they couldn't even hold a candle for their captain. But hey, if you still want to compare Ray with the likes of Kata, King and Shiryu then keep going.

So you don’t have any evidence
Just headcanons

unless its stated clearly then there’s no point in bringing it up

also ray and beckmen being > the others is again just headcanon

it was never stated

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Tbh 300M is quite decent. And they were fairly strong, now add sulong on top of that and the fact that they sell very well as slaves...

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My point still stands. Aokiji knows more about bounties than you. And there isn't even a single hint that shows that the WG is aware of Robin's knowledge. Imagine thinking that your opinion regarding bounties>An Admiral's opinion.

So you think bellemy pose more threat to the wg than robin?

 

[matt245]

So you don’t have any evidence
Just headcanons

unless its stated clearly then there’s no point in bringing it up

also ray and beckmen being > the others is again just headcanon

it was never stated

King of the miss. Now, do you have evidence that being the strongest grants you the RHM title? And nice headcanon thinking that Ray=King=Kata. Ray and Benn had statements that puts them as someone comparable to their captain, and thus they were introduced as their RHM. Does King, Kata, Shiryu... etc have something like that?

 

[Electricmastro]

Tbh 300M is quite decent. And they were fairly strong, now add sulong on top of that and the fact that they sell very well as slaves...

And yet Bepo has a bounty of 500.

 

[matt245]

And yet Bepo has a bounty of 500.

He might be like Chopper. The WG doesn't take them as threats. And we rlly didn't see anything that puts him as someone dangerous. Tbh bounties are fucked up. And you can basically only use them to see how much of a threat they are for the main cast and WG.

 

[Gyro The God]

King of the miss. Now, do you have evidence that being the strongest grants you the RHM title? And nice headcanon thinking that Ray=King=Kata. Ray and Benn had statements that puts them as someone comparable to their captain, and thus they were introduced as their RHM. Does King, Kata, Shiryu... etc have something like that?

Oh oh I feel like we’re starting to get personal

No I don’t have evidence it’s just my opinion

now im gonna ask you for the fourth time
Do you have clear evidence that a RHM title means you’re stronger than a yc1 ????

either a clear panel from the manga saying RHM> Yc1
Or a statement from oda himself

????

 

[Rootbeer]

It's funny because to make that gag, Oda got rid of Zoro for 1 entire arc where Sanji was the main focus just to get 10M more. If we are comparing bounties after leaving an arc where they were all involved; Luffy: 500M Zoro: 320M, Sanji: 177M.

Sanji's bounty got raised by Judge for post Dressrosa. Sanji was also gone for the Majority of Dressrosa, Oda split the crew for writting purposes, he had his hands full with characters..

If Oda really wanted to portray Zoro and Sanji's bounty that close, Sanji would have been on the rooftop as well..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'd be very surprised if Oda make it more than a one off gag..
If you're unaware there's also the mr. 2 and mr. 1 comparison, 32 million and 75 million..

32 million was Bons pre timeskip bounty and 75 was Daz’s post timeskip bounty…