General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[Monet]

Loki bounty is 2.6
So zolo bounty should be 3b after elbaf
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Luffy 5 or 4
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Sanji jinbe 2b

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Btw
Buggy will do something big that let his bounty raise and mihawk above 4

 

[Paragorn]

I wonder wha

Loki bounty is 2.6
So zolo bounty should be 3b after elbaf

 

[Monet]

I wonder wha

 

[Paragorn]

Why do think Zoro's bounty should surpass Loki's?

 

[Monet]

Why do think Zoro's bounty should surpass Loki's?

Cuz zolo is num2 in Strength. In the crew .
If loki joined .

Also even if he didnt join , zolo bounty should reach 3b after elbaf .
By doing something big

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Teach (Post-Elbaf): 5,096,000,000
Shanks: 4,048,900,000
———
Luffy (Post-Elbaf): 4,000,000,000
*Unlikely to be higher than Shanks
*Teach is usually one step ahead of Luffy
———
Pattern 1:
Zoro: 1,911,000,000
Sanji: 1,832,000,000

Pattern 2:
Zoro: 1,900,000,000
Sanji: 1,900,000,000

Pattern 3:
Sanji: 1,832,000,000
Zoro: 1,831,000,000
*Don’t think Zoro & Sanji will break 2bil
———
Jinbe: 1,200,000,000
Robin: 1,130,000,000
Usopp: 600,000,000
Franky: 494,000,000
Brook: 483,000,000
Nami: 466,000,000
Chopper: 1,000,000
*Flat increase of 100,000,000 for all except Chopper 💀
———
Loki: 2,600,000,000

 

[Rumble]

Teach (Post-Elbaf): 5,096,000,000
Shanks: 4,048,900,000
———
Luffy (Post-Elbaf): 4,000,000,000
*Unlikely to be higher than Shanks
*Teach is usually one step ahead of Luffy
———
Pattern 1:
Zoro: 1,911,000,000
Sanji: 1,832,000,000

Pattern 2:
Zoro: 1,900,000,000
Sanji: 1,900,000,000

Pattern 3:
Sanji: 1,832,000,000
Zoro: 1,831,000,000
*Don’t think Zoro & Sanji will break 2bil
———
Jinbe: 1,200,000,000
Robin: 1,130,000,000
Usopp: 600,000,000
Franky: 494,000,000
Brook: 483,000,000
Nami: 466,000,000
Chopper: 1,000,000
*Flat increase of 100,000,000 for all except Chopper 💀
———
Loki: 2,600,000,000

I still have the same disagreements and question so this thread is probably the right venue for it.

Shanks and Blackbeard just defeated 3bn bounty pirates instrumental in toppling the likes of Big Mom and Kaidou.

They're also getting new bounties. That's how we will learn the bounties of their crews. I'm confident Aokiji and Beckmann will have higher bounties than the Wings, but still well short of Mihawk.

Bounties are determined by threat to the WG. For Emperors in particular, it also reflects the strength of their crew, resources, alliances and territories.

Strawhats thwarting the WG's takeover in Elbaph, allying with its new leadership (Loki, Hajrudin, or both), and demonstrating the Monster Trio are threats to immortals is going to warrant a substantial boost in bounties for the crew.

The WG is going to know the Strawhats have made contact with Gaban. They're going to know there's a library there with thousands of years old knowledge. Critically, Saul has appeared after 20 years, raising dire implications for what knowledge of Ohara survived with him.

The broader context absolutely warrants a major increase in the threat assessment of Strawhats.

Luffy's alignment with Loki and Hajrudin in particular is seismic.

 

[Paragorn]

Cuz zolo is num2 in Strength. In the crew .
If loki joined .

Also even if he didnt join , zolo bounty should reach 3b after elbaf .
By doing something big

Loki ain't join the crew

 

[Monet]

Loki ain't join the crew

Even he didn't, there is a rise after elbaf and zolo should reach 3b

 

[Paragorn]

Even he didn't, there is a rise after elbaf and zolo should reach 3b

Too high for now.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I still have the same disagreements and question so this thread is probably the right venue for it.
QUOTE="Rumble, post: 6507113, member: 15458"]Shanks and Blackbeard just defeated 3bn bounty pirates instrumental in toppling the likes of Big Mom and Kaidou.

They're also getting new bounties. That's how we will learn the bounties of their crews. I'm confident Aokiji and Beckmann will have higher bounties than the Wings, but still well short of Mihawk.

Bounties are determined by threat to the WG. For Emperors in particular, it also reflects the strength of their crew, resources, alliances and territories.

Strawhats thwarting the WG's takeover in Elbaph, allying with its new leadership (Loki, Hajrudin, or both), and demonstrating the Monster Trio are threats to immortals is going to warrant a substantial boost in bounties for the crew.

The WG is going to know the Strawhats have made contact with Gaban. They're going to know there's a library there with thousands of years old knowledge. Critically, Saul has appeared after 20 years, raising dire implications for what knowledge of Ohara survived with him.

The broader context absolutely warrants a major increase in the threat assessment of Strawhats.

Luffy's alignment with Loki and Hajrudin in particular is seismic.

[/QUOTE]
Don’t really understand why you think Yonko beating promising rookies is going to move their bounties. Makes no sense for Shanks to get a bounty increase for one tapping Kid & his crew.
Teach will get a bounty increase but certainly not for taking out a pirate beneath him but rather whatever fuckery he’s planing with Lafitte. He’s prolly the reason why Shamrock was called back to Marijoea.

I hear ya on the bolded bit but that’s simply not how Oda gives bounty raises.

Luffy beat Kaido (big bollocks Kaido) & awakened as Nika & he got the same bounty increase as Kid & Law and not only that but only a bounty of 3bil to boot in comparison to Kaido’s 4,611,000,000. Why? Nika is an existential threat to the WG? & Kaido was referred to as the World’s strongest creature that the Gorosei didn’t believe was going to fall yet just 3 bil?

If you think about it with Shanks & Teach’s bounties in mind then it somewhat makes sense.

Bounties are ultimately a tool to establish the threat of whatever antagonist is in front of the SHs. So Luffy is never going to have a bounty similar or higher than teach prior to fighting him.
With regards to Shanks, he is Luffy’s benchmark so Luffy’s not just going to nonchalantly surpass his bounty.

Luffy is still weaker than Shanks so 4 bil vs 3 bil is appropriate for showing that difference. Next step for Luffy I think is to break into that veteran Yonko bounty bracket of 4 bil which will establish he’s on the same level as Shanks.

that’s the way I see bounty increase atm so 5bil for Luffy is very unlikely atm imo.

 

[Monet]

Too high for now.

The end is near , op will not have many arcs as people think ,
Luffy bounty is not even similar to other original younku .
...
Mihawk currently 3.6 i think it will increase and reach 4 at some point before zolo vs Mihawk.

 

[Rumble]

Don’t really understand why you think Yonko beating promising rookies is going to move their bounties.

They're not rookies. They were Super Rookies pre-skip.

Makes no sense for Shanks to get a bounty increase for one tapping Kid & his crew.

Teach will get a bounty increase but certainly not for taking out a pirate beneath him but rather whatever fuckery he’s planing with Lafitte. He’s prolly the reason why Shamrock was called back to Marijoea.

Defeating 3bn bounty pirates is absolutely going to move the needle.

Especially when those pirates just had toppled two Emperors in an alliance.

Their defeat put Red Hair and Blackbeard close to the One Piece, and it makes them bigger threats to the other Emperor, especially Strawhat, because two of his potential allies appear to have been wiped out.

The world's calculus shifted with the defeat of Law and Kid.

I hear ya on the bolded bit but that’s simply not how Oda gives bounty raises.

Bounties are based on threat to the WG.

The threat increases when a pirate acquires allies, territory and resources, or when they eliminate other powerful players.

That is literally how it works. How it has always worked.

Luffy beat Kaido (big bollocks Kaido) & awakened as Nika & he got the same bounty increase as Kid & Law and not only that but only a bounty of 3bil to boot in comparison to Kaido’s 4,611,000,000. Why? Nika is an existential threat to the WG? & Kaido was referred to as the World’s strongest creature that the Gorosei didn’t believe was going to fall yet just 3 bil?

If you think about it with Shanks & Teach’s bounties in mind then it somewhat makes sense.

The 3bn for Luffy is justified in that it was an alliance of equals that brought Big Mom and Kaidou down.

Bounties are ultimately a tool to establish the threat of whatever antagonist is in front of the SHs. So Luffy is never going to have a bounty similar or higher than teach prior to fighting him.

It's never worked that way, dude.

With regards to Shanks, he is Luffy’s benchmark so Luffy’s not just going to nonchalantly surpass his bounty.

Again, his bounty is absolutely increasing.

3bn bounty pirates do not grow on trees. Especially not if the WG suspect they have knowledge about the One Piece that could have possibly been transferred.

Luffy is still weaker than Shanks so 4 bil vs 3 bil is appropriate for showing that difference. Next step for Luffy I think is to break into that veteran Yonko bounty bracket of 4 bil which will establish he’s on the same level as Shanks.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Luffy having a higher bounty than Shanks at this point. Even before Elbaph.

that’s the way I see bounty increase atm so 5bil for Luffy is very unlikely atm imo.

I don't know what you're actually basing this on though.

The context absolutely supports it being a possibility, especially if it's the last bounty Luffy for the rest of the series.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Post Elbaph

Luffy 5.0 Billion Berries (Defeating Imunko with Loki)
Loki 4.9 Billion Berries (Defeating Imunko with Luffy)
Zoro 2.111 Billion Berries (Defeating Killingham)
Sanji 2.032 Billion Berries (Defeating Sommers)

Jimbei and the others aren't going to be doing anything this arc so I dont expect them to get an increase. Usopp will probably do something that will endear himself to the citizens of Elbaph so he may get an increase.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

They're not rookies. They were Super Rookies pre-skip.



Defeating 3bn bounty pirates is absolutely going to move the needle.

Especially when those pirates just had toppled two Emperors in an alliance.

Their defeat put Red Hair and Blackbeard close to the One Piece, and it makes them bigger threats to the other Emperor, especially Strawhat, because two of his potential allies appear to have been wiped out.

The world's calculus shifted with the defeat of Law and Kid.




Bounties are based on threat to the WG.

The threat increases when a pirate acquires allies, territory and resources, or when they eliminate other powerful players.

That is literally how it works. How it has always worked.



The 3bn for Luffy is justified in that it was an alliance of equals that brought Big Mom and Kaidou down.



It's never worked that way, dude.



Again, his bounty is absolutely increasing.

3bn bounty pirates do not grow on trees. Especially not if the WG suspect they have knowledge about the One Piece that could have possibly been transferred.



There's absolutely nothing wrong with Luffy having a higher bounty than Shanks at this point. Even before Elbaph.



I don't know what you're actually basing this on though.

The context absolutely supports it being a possibility, especially if it's the last bounty Luffy for the rest of the series.

Let’s agree to disagree 🫂
We’d know by the end of the arc.

 

[matt245]

Why do think Zoro's bounty should surpass Loki's?

Because he is Zoro, the Deuteragonist of One Piece, the second main character behind Luffy and the one that has been portrayed as the goat that stands besides the other goat since the beginning of the series. It's foolish to believe that someone that arrived 1100 chapters later will outperform Zoro in the grand scale of things

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Bounty Discussion

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List of Known Bounty:

1. Canon Characters

Spoiler: canon

1. Gol D. Roger = 5.564.800.000
2. Edward Newgate = 5.046.000.000
3. Kaido = 4.611.100.000
4. Big Mom = 4.388.000.000
5. Shanks = 4.048.900.000
6. Marshall D. Teach = 2.247.600.000
7. Big Daddy Saran = 2.150.696.420
8. Monkey D. Luffy = 1.500.000.000
9. Queen = 1.320.000.000
10. Charlotte Katakuri = 1.057.000.000
11. Jack = 1.000.000.000

1. Charlotte Smoothie = 932.000.000
2. Charlotte Cracker = 860.000.000
3. Charlotte Perospero = 700.000.000
4. Sabo = 602.000.000
5. Charlotte Snack = 600.000.000
6. Don Chinjao = 592.000.000
7. Portgas D Ace = 550.000.000 (deceased)
8. Little Oars Jr = 550.000.000

1. Trafalgar D Water Law = 500.000.000
2. Charlotte Linlin = 500.000.000 (past time, young Linlin)
3. Edward Weevil = 480.000.000 (frozen)
4. Eustass Kidd = 470.000.000
5. Jinbe = 438.000.000
6. Baron Tamago = 429.000.000
7. Pedro = 382.000.000
8. Scratchmen Apoo = 350.000.000
9. Donquixote Doflamingo = 340.000.000 (frozen, already captured)
10. Pekoms = 330.000.000
11. Cavendish = 330.000.000
12. Vinsmoke Sanji = 330.000.000
13. Gecko Moria = 320.000.000
14. Basil Hawkins = 320.000.000
15. Roronoa Zoro = 320.000.000

1. Caesar Clown = 300.000.000
2. Capone Bege = 300.000.000
3. Charlotte Oven = 300.000.000
4. Charlotte Daifuku = 300.000.000
5. Bartholomew Kuma = 296.000.000 (frozen)
6. Fisher Tiger = 230.000.000 (deceased)
7. X Drake = 222.000.000
8. Caribou = 210.000.000
9. Squardo = 210.000.000
10. Don Sai = 210.000.000
11. Killer = 200.000.000
12. Usopp = 200.000.000
13. Bartolomeo = 200.000.000
14. Bellamy = 195.000.000
15. Coribou = 190.000.000
16. Orlumbus = 148.000.000
17. Jewelry Bonney = 140.000.000
18. Nico Robin = 130.000.000
19. Charlotte Mont-d'Or = 120.000.000
20. Gambia = 117.000.000
21. Urouge = 108.000.000
22. Bobbin = 105.500.000

1. Dorry = 100.000.000
2. Brogy = 100.000.000
3. Trebol = 99.000.000
4. Diamante = 99.000.000
5. Pica = 99.000.000
6. Vito = 95.000.000
7. Rockstar = 94.000.000
8. Franky = 94.000.000
9. Albion = 92.000.000
10. Gotti = 90.000.000
11. Lip Doughty = 88.000.000
12. Brook = 83.000.000
13. Crocodile = 81.000.000 (until 2 years ago)
14. Brownbeard = 80.060.000
15. Boa Hancock = 80.000.000 (frozen)
16. Nico Olvia = 79.000.000 (deceased)
17. Raccoon = 75.000.000 (note: from One Piece Novel A)
18. Daz Bonez = 75.000.000
19. Gyro = 73.000.000
20. Doc Q = 72.000.000
21. Suleiman = 67.000.000
22. Nami = 66.000.000
23. Van Augur = 64.000.000
24. Lao G = 61.000.000
25. Devil Dias = 60.000.000
26. Senor Pink = 58.000.000
27. Kelly Funk = 57.000.000
28. Pinkbeard = 52.000.000
29. Lafitte = 42.200.000
30. Roshio = 42.000.000
31. Boa Sandersonia = 40.000.000 (frozen)
32. Boa Marigold = 40.000.000 (frozen)
33. Sarkies = 38.000.000
34. Shoujou = 36.000.000
35. Mikazuki = 36.000.000
36. Bobby Funk = 36.000.000
37. Zala (Miss Doublefinger) = 35.000.000
38. Bentham = 32.000.000
39. Gladius = 31.000.000
40. Marianne (Miss Golden Week) = 29.000.000
41. Demaro Black = 26.000.000
42. Montblanc Cricket = 25.000.000
43. Foxy = 24.000.000
44. Galdino (Mr.3) = 24.000.000
45. Charlotte Lola = 24.000.000
46. Masira = 23.000.000
47. Arlong = 20.000.000
48. Jesus Burgess = 20.000.000
49. Rock (Yeti Cool Brothers) = 20.000.000
50. Scotch (Yeti Cool Brothers) = 20.000.000
51. Don Krieg = 17.000.000
52. Lacuba = 17.000.000
53. Kuro = 16.000.000
54. Buggy = 15.000.000 (frozen)
55. Dellinger = 15.000.000
56. Bluejam = 14.300.000
57. Drophy (Miss Merry Christmas) = 14.000.000
58. Gin = 12.000.000
59. Machvise = 11.000.000
60. Wellington = 10.000.000
61. Gem (Mr.5) = 10.000.000
62. Kuroobi = 9.000.000
63. Jango = 9.000.000 (already removed)
64. Hatchan = 8.000.000
65. Higuma = 8.000.000 (deceased)
66. Curly Dadan = 7.800.000
67. Mikita (Miss Valentine) = 7.500.000
68. Buchi = 7.000.000
69. Sham = 7.000.000
70. Chew = 5.500.000
71. Alvida = 5.000.000
72. Porchemy = 3.400.000
73. Pandaman = 3.333.333
74. Babe (Mr 4) = 3.200.000
75. Mikio Itoo = 1,000,000
76. Bepo = 500
77. Tony Tony Chopper = 100

2. Non Canon Characters

Spoiler: non canon

1. Byrnndi World : 500.000.000
2. Panz Fry : 320.000.000
3. Chameleone : 300.000.000
4. Puzzle : 100.000.000
5. Gasparde : 95.000.000
6. Tambu : 70.000.000
7. Boblat : 68.000.000
8. Woonan : 60.000.000
9. Needless : 57.000.000
10. Olive : 50.000.000
11. Willy : 20.000.000
12. Bigalo : 14.900.000
13. Wetton : 14.800.000
14. Bear King : 11.600.000
15. Dick : 10.000.000
16. Pin Joker : 9.900.000
17. Golass : 8.000.000
18. Honey Queen : 7.800.000
19. Skunk One : 6.000.000
20. Billy The Bandit : 5.000.000
21. Galley : 5.000.000
22. Heaby : 4.200.000
23. Hotdog : 4.000.000
24. Spiel : 3.500.000
25. Gally : 3.450.000
26. Boo Jack : 3.200.000
27. Billy The Orca Killer : 3.000.000
28. A A A : 2.200.000
29. Wild Joe : 2.000.000
30. D.R : 1.800.000
31. Hitokui : 1.500.000
32. Henna Oyag : 1.200.000
33. Koba K : 100.000
34. Usanksai : 50.000
35. Sard : 40.000
36. Tohenbok : 5.000
37. Tacobo : 1.000

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And that’s with Big Daddy Saran laying low btw

 

[Paragorn]

Because he is Zoro, the Deuteragonist of One Piece

 

[Crow]

I don't care at all about bounties anymore.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Pretty sure that was confirmed a few times before.
But Zoro won't get a higher bounty than Loki this arc regardless