Yes, but Oda never made it a thing for an individual's bounty to surpass a bounty of a person s/he did not beat in a fight.
For example, look at Dressrosa.
Cook got a 100 million raise for getting his ass kicked by Doffy, but his bounty still did not surpass Doffy's 340 million.
CP0 knew Cook failed spectacularly, twice, against King. In the literal sense, Zoro did much better against Kaido and Big Mom than Cook did against King.
Obviously, however, Zoro is not going to have his new bounty above Kaido's or Big Mom's despite faring better against them than Cook did against King, twice, so giving Cook a larger bounty than King while not giving Zoro a larger bounty than Kaido or Linlin is senseless.
I'm not saying Oda is gonna give Cook a bigger bounty than King for real, but he is a bigger retard than I thought if he does.
Also, in the subject of Cook having a bigger bounty than Katakuri despite being weaker, there is also a precedent for that back in Dressrosa: Cook got a bigger bounty than Pica despite only getting his ass kicked in Dressrosa. In this regard, I think WG's rationalization is "the benefit of the doubt" and the fact that Cook never vs Katakuri for real the way Cook never vs Pica.
WG could, in this way, give Cook the benefit of the doubt of winning against Pica then and Katakuri now, especially since Cook extreme diffed a dude they prized comfortably above Katakuri.
They are not pirates, though, but Wano warriors. I don't think they get any bounty.
For example, look at Dressrosa.
Cook got a 100 million raise for getting his ass kicked by Doffy, but his bounty still did not surpass Doffy's 340 million.
CP0 knew Cook failed spectacularly, twice, against King. In the literal sense, Zoro did much better against Kaido and Big Mom than Cook did against King.
Obviously, however, Zoro is not going to have his new bounty above Kaido's or Big Mom's despite faring better against them than Cook did against King, twice, so giving Cook a larger bounty than King while not giving Zoro a larger bounty than Kaido or Linlin is senseless.
I'm not saying Oda is gonna give Cook a bigger bounty than King for real, but he is a bigger retard than I thought if he does.
Also, in the subject of Cook having a bigger bounty than Katakuri despite being weaker, there is also a precedent for that back in Dressrosa: Cook got a bigger bounty than Pica despite only getting his ass kicked in Dressrosa. In this regard, I think WG's rationalization is "the benefit of the doubt" and the fact that Cook never vs Katakuri for real the way Cook never vs Pica.
WG could, in this way, give Cook the benefit of the doubt of winning against Pica then and Katakuri now, especially since Cook extreme diffed a dude they prized comfortably above Katakuri.
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They are not pirates, though, but Wano warriors. I don't think they get any bounty.
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Since Wanos done final prediction:
Luffy - 5.056 Billion
Zoro - 1.62 Bilion
Sanji - 1.577 Billion
Usopp - 700 Million
Yamato - 652 Million
Jinbe - 638 Milion
Robin - 620 Million
Franky - 604 Million
Brook - 383 Million
Nami - 316 Million
Chopper - 200 Million
Kid - 2.5 Billion
Killer - 713 Million
rest of kids crew: current bounty + 200 million
Law - 2.5 Billion
Bepo - 200 Berries
rest of laws crew: current bounty + 200 million
Luffy - 5.056 Billion
Zoro - 1.62 Bilion
Sanji - 1.577 Billion
Usopp - 700 Million
Yamato - 652 Million
Jinbe - 638 Milion
Robin - 620 Million
Franky - 604 Million
Brook - 383 Million
Nami - 316 Million
Chopper - 200 Million
Kid - 2.5 Billion
Killer - 713 Million
rest of kids crew: current bounty + 200 million
Law - 2.5 Billion
Bepo - 200 Berries
rest of laws crew: current bounty + 200 million
luffy- kaidos bounty< actuall bounty< 5.6- it seems people are forgetting that luffy has the **** **** no mi
zoro- 1.4< ab< 1.6
sanji- 1.3< ab<1.5
kidd and law- 2<ab<black beards bounty
killer- 600<ab<1
jimbe- 800<ab< 1.2
robin- 700<ab<1
ussop- 500<ab<800- defeated two tobiroppo
franky- 500<ab<700
brook/nami- 300<ab<500
chooper- 200 million- if there is no gag
zoro- 1.4< ab< 1.6
sanji- 1.3< ab<1.5
kidd and law- 2<ab<black beards bounty
killer- 600<ab<1
jimbe- 800<ab< 1.2
robin- 700<ab<1
ussop- 500<ab<800- defeated two tobiroppo
franky- 500<ab<700
brook/nami- 300<ab<500
chooper- 200 million- if there is no gag
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So this might be my final predictions before they are officially revealed and before this thread closes:
Luffy - 5 billion
I think Luffy is getting 5 billion bare minimum. Before it might have been impossible, but now i think it's inevitable. Luffy beating Kaido could be a feat like no other since it was never implied that Roger beat Kaido or Big Mom to get their Road Ponyglyphs. Roger stole Big Mom's rubbing similar to Luffy, and he got Wano's from Oden before Kaido took over, so i don't think Roger had to beat Kaido outright either. Luffy defeating Kaido is the most definite defeat of a yonko to date, even more so than Big Mom's defeat of being pushed off the island by Kidd and Law or Whitebeard's death by Teach's gunshots whereby pops already had one and a half foot in the grave and was on the verge of death anyway. But even if Kaido's defeat doesn't give Luffy the 5 billion - a awakened, legendary Mythical Zoan Sun God Nika Fruit should seal the deal anyway.
Zoro - 1.694 billion
Will have one of the highest Yonko first mate bounties. I think the only ones left who can be higher in bounty than Zoro's after Wano right now are the retired Silver's Rayleigh and Ben Beckman. Zoro is gonna surpass the first mate bounties of Katakuri, King and Marco after Wano. Though i don't see Zoro reaching 2 billion just yet since he didn't kill Kaido like people predicted. The 2 billion range will also be reserved only for Kidd and Law for their defeat of Big Mom.
Sanji - 1. 366 billion
Since 1.5 billion was already the breaking point for Yonko first mate bounties, i don't think Sanji may get a much higher bounty than Queen's. I think 1.3 billion is the average for Yonko first commander bounties with both Marco and King falling into that range, with Katakuri even lower at 1.075 billion. Queen was an outlier at 1.32 billion since he was only a second commander and not a first mate like King, so i don't realistically see Sanji going that much higher than 1.3 billion just for beating Queen and doing nothing else when i don't even think Zoro is reaching 2 billion for beating King and doing so much more. But i wouldn't mind if i was proven wrong by Oda and Sanji gets a bounty higher than 1.366 billion either.
Nami - 266 million
I think Big Mom's Maser Cannon was the deciding factor in Ulti's defeat since it was the only attack that impaled Ulti right through. Even Nami's finishing attack wouldn't have even landed without the coordination of Zeus. I don't think Nami deserves a bounty equivalent to a Supernovas when she wasn't even the deciding factor or contributed the most to Ulti's defeat. 266 million is what i would give Nami if i were honest, and 366 million is the highest i'm willing to stretch it.
Ussop - 300 million
Ussop didn't really do much this arc, so i think a flat increase of just 100 million is fair. 300 million is higher than Page One's bounty of 290 million, who Ussop didn't even defeat, but by Big Mom. 300 million is my honest answer, and like with Nami, 400 million is the max that i'm willing to stretch it for Ussop. Ussop will get another chance in Elbaf to get a much higher bounty.
Chopper - 100 million
Chopper will be getting his first real bounty after Wano. 100 million might not sound like much, but compared to Chopper's previous bounty of 100 berries, its a million times more than what it was before.
Robin - 530 million
530 million is my safe bet for Robin since Oda has always been stingy with Robin's bounty increases so I don't want to get my hopes up for disappointment. But depending on Oda's mood, if he wants the WG to finally put a serious bounty on Robin's head since Luffy is already so close to the one piece then a nice 1 billion wouldn't be bad either.
Franky - 494 million
Franky was complaining back at the end of Dressrosa for Oda being stingy and having him coming up just shy of 100 million. Oda might do it again and this time have Franky coming up just short of the 500 million milestone to continue the joke.
Brook - 283 million
Brook sadly didn't get a 1v1 fight in Wano, but he didn't get a bounty increase for his contributions in WCI either. Hopefully a modest increase of 200 million isn't too much for Oda.
Jinbe - 638 million
Again like with Robin, 638 million is my conservative and safe bet for Jinbe. I would love Jinbe to get 838 million instead but i'm not getting my hopes up for Oda being generous to Jinbe any time soon.
Yamato - 550 million
For her first bounty ever i think 550 million is pretty good. Strength wise i know Yamato could've gone all the way up to a billion but i don't think she will. Hopefully she reaches 1 billion+ on her second bounty. 550 million also matches Ace's bounty value.
Kidd - 2.74 billion
Law - 2.5 billion
Since Kidd and Law actually physically took down Big Mom a yonko themselves, they are both gonna get bounties higher than Teach's current 2.2476 billion who probably only got that much from beating Marco and the remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates and not a Yonko Captain like Kidd and Law did, but the recognition will be split down the middle between the two, which is why they will both get around only half of Luffy's bounty since unlike Luffy, Kidd and Law took down Big Mom together as a team in the final clash. Big Mom was also still far more conscious when she fell than compared to Kaido. Compared to Big Mom- Kaido got the more definite defeat from Luffy.
Kidd will get a little more than Law as Law himself foreshadowed to being portrayed more as Kidd's opening act, while Kidd was portrayed as having more finishing moves and iconic moments against Big Mom.
BONUS
Killer - 613 million
While Killer didn't take down a 1 billion+ yonko commander like Sanji or Zoro, Killer did take down (and possibly implied to have killed in the latest chapter) Basil Hawkins who was worth 320 million without much difficultly once Killer figured out how to beat the straw man without also killing his captain in the process. More than tripling his own bounty and almost double of Hawkin's bounty, Killer getting a bounty of more than 600 million should be a nice figure for him, putting him at the lower end of Yonko Commander bounty ranges, but higher than the bounties of Ace, Izo, Sabo and Charlotte Snack. The added 13 million is just a symbol of bad luck, to reflect how unlucky Killer has been in eating a failed smile fruit.
Luffy - 5 billion
I think Luffy is getting 5 billion bare minimum. Before it might have been impossible, but now i think it's inevitable. Luffy beating Kaido could be a feat like no other since it was never implied that Roger beat Kaido or Big Mom to get their Road Ponyglyphs. Roger stole Big Mom's rubbing similar to Luffy, and he got Wano's from Oden before Kaido took over, so i don't think Roger had to beat Kaido outright either. Luffy defeating Kaido is the most definite defeat of a yonko to date, even more so than Big Mom's defeat of being pushed off the island by Kidd and Law or Whitebeard's death by Teach's gunshots whereby pops already had one and a half foot in the grave and was on the verge of death anyway. But even if Kaido's defeat doesn't give Luffy the 5 billion - a awakened, legendary Mythical Zoan Sun God Nika Fruit should seal the deal anyway.
Zoro - 1.694 billion
Will have one of the highest Yonko first mate bounties. I think the only ones left who can be higher in bounty than Zoro's after Wano right now are the retired Silver's Rayleigh and Ben Beckman. Zoro is gonna surpass the first mate bounties of Katakuri, King and Marco after Wano. Though i don't see Zoro reaching 2 billion just yet since he didn't kill Kaido like people predicted. The 2 billion range will also be reserved only for Kidd and Law for their defeat of Big Mom.
Sanji - 1. 366 billion
Since 1.5 billion was already the breaking point for Yonko first mate bounties, i don't think Sanji may get a much higher bounty than Queen's. I think 1.3 billion is the average for Yonko first commander bounties with both Marco and King falling into that range, with Katakuri even lower at 1.075 billion. Queen was an outlier at 1.32 billion since he was only a second commander and not a first mate like King, so i don't realistically see Sanji going that much higher than 1.3 billion just for beating Queen and doing nothing else when i don't even think Zoro is reaching 2 billion for beating King and doing so much more. But i wouldn't mind if i was proven wrong by Oda and Sanji gets a bounty higher than 1.366 billion either.
Nami - 266 million
I think Big Mom's Maser Cannon was the deciding factor in Ulti's defeat since it was the only attack that impaled Ulti right through. Even Nami's finishing attack wouldn't have even landed without the coordination of Zeus. I don't think Nami deserves a bounty equivalent to a Supernovas when she wasn't even the deciding factor or contributed the most to Ulti's defeat. 266 million is what i would give Nami if i were honest, and 366 million is the highest i'm willing to stretch it.
Ussop - 300 million
Ussop didn't really do much this arc, so i think a flat increase of just 100 million is fair. 300 million is higher than Page One's bounty of 290 million, who Ussop didn't even defeat, but by Big Mom. 300 million is my honest answer, and like with Nami, 400 million is the max that i'm willing to stretch it for Ussop. Ussop will get another chance in Elbaf to get a much higher bounty.
Chopper - 100 million
Chopper will be getting his first real bounty after Wano. 100 million might not sound like much, but compared to Chopper's previous bounty of 100 berries, its a million times more than what it was before.
Robin - 530 million
530 million is my safe bet for Robin since Oda has always been stingy with Robin's bounty increases so I don't want to get my hopes up for disappointment. But depending on Oda's mood, if he wants the WG to finally put a serious bounty on Robin's head since Luffy is already so close to the one piece then a nice 1 billion wouldn't be bad either.
Franky - 494 million
Franky was complaining back at the end of Dressrosa for Oda being stingy and having him coming up just shy of 100 million. Oda might do it again and this time have Franky coming up just short of the 500 million milestone to continue the joke.
Brook - 283 million
Brook sadly didn't get a 1v1 fight in Wano, but he didn't get a bounty increase for his contributions in WCI either. Hopefully a modest increase of 200 million isn't too much for Oda.
Jinbe - 638 million
Again like with Robin, 638 million is my conservative and safe bet for Jinbe. I would love Jinbe to get 838 million instead but i'm not getting my hopes up for Oda being generous to Jinbe any time soon.
Yamato - 550 million
For her first bounty ever i think 550 million is pretty good. Strength wise i know Yamato could've gone all the way up to a billion but i don't think she will. Hopefully she reaches 1 billion+ on her second bounty. 550 million also matches Ace's bounty value.
Kidd - 2.74 billion
Law - 2.5 billion
Since Kidd and Law actually physically took down Big Mom a yonko themselves, they are both gonna get bounties higher than Teach's current 2.2476 billion who probably only got that much from beating Marco and the remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates and not a Yonko Captain like Kidd and Law did, but the recognition will be split down the middle between the two, which is why they will both get around only half of Luffy's bounty since unlike Luffy, Kidd and Law took down Big Mom together as a team in the final clash. Big Mom was also still far more conscious when she fell than compared to Kaido. Compared to Big Mom- Kaido got the more definite defeat from Luffy.
Kidd will get a little more than Law as Law himself foreshadowed to being portrayed more as Kidd's opening act, while Kidd was portrayed as having more finishing moves and iconic moments against Big Mom.
BONUS
Killer - 613 million
While Killer didn't take down a 1 billion+ yonko commander like Sanji or Zoro, Killer did take down (and possibly implied to have killed in the latest chapter) Basil Hawkins who was worth 320 million without much difficultly once Killer figured out how to beat the straw man without also killing his captain in the process. More than tripling his own bounty and almost double of Hawkin's bounty, Killer getting a bounty of more than 600 million should be a nice figure for him, putting him at the lower end of Yonko Commander bounty ranges, but higher than the bounties of Ace, Izo, Sabo and Charlotte Snack. The added 13 million is just a symbol of bad luck, to reflect how unlucky Killer has been in eating a failed smile fruit.
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STRAWHATS
Monkey D. Luffy - 3,500,000,000 or 4,000,000,000
Roronoa Zoro - 1,420,000,000
Vinsmoke Sanji - 1,377,000,000
Jimbei - 838,000,000
Nico Robin - 530,000,000
Franky - 494,000,000
Brook - 383,000,000 or 483,000,000
Usopp - 400,000,000
Nami - 366,000,000
Yamato - 200,000,000 or 300,000,000
Chopper - 1000
WORST GENERATION
Trafalgar D. Water Law - 2,000,000,000 or 2,500,000,000 or 2,694,000,000
Eustass Kid - 1,970,000,000 or 2,470,000,000 or 2,664,000,000
Killer - 662,000,000 - 862,000,000
Scratchmen Apoo - 500,000,000(maybe not increase)
Monkey D. Luffy - 3,500,000,000 or 4,000,000,000
Roronoa Zoro - 1,420,000,000
Vinsmoke Sanji - 1,377,000,000
Jimbei - 838,000,000
Nico Robin - 530,000,000
Franky - 494,000,000
Brook - 383,000,000 or 483,000,000
Usopp - 400,000,000
Nami - 366,000,000
Yamato - 200,000,000 or 300,000,000
Chopper - 1000
WORST GENERATION
Trafalgar D. Water Law - 2,000,000,000 or 2,500,000,000 or 2,694,000,000
Eustass Kid - 1,970,000,000 or 2,470,000,000 or 2,664,000,000
Killer - 662,000,000 - 862,000,000
Scratchmen Apoo - 500,000,000(maybe not increase)
So the question with Luffy’s bounty that I ask myself is. Who is or was more of a threat to the world government, Luffy or Roger?
Roger‘s bounty was 5,564,800,000, and this probably before he reached Laughtale. He got this bounty probably because he was strong, helped beat xebec, was a yonkou at the time, and had gathered knowledge about the ancient weapons and the void century. He never beat another yonkou though.
Whitebeard- it was a draw
Big mom- entered her territory and managed to get the RPG without beating her
Shiki- a Strom helped them escape
Luffy is Joyboy returned. Has 3 of 4 RPG and has beat a yonkou. Has the only known person able to read the PGs. Also the WG probably knows that Joyboy would return someday and go after them.
I think to them the number one Threat right now is Luffy in combination with robin ofc. So they will go after him like no one in history before. Giving him a bounty never before seen.
10billion incoming
Roger‘s bounty was 5,564,800,000, and this probably before he reached Laughtale. He got this bounty probably because he was strong, helped beat xebec, was a yonkou at the time, and had gathered knowledge about the ancient weapons and the void century. He never beat another yonkou though.
Whitebeard- it was a draw
Big mom- entered her territory and managed to get the RPG without beating her
Shiki- a Strom helped them escape
Luffy is Joyboy returned. Has 3 of 4 RPG and has beat a yonkou. Has the only known person able to read the PGs. Also the WG probably knows that Joyboy would return someday and go after them.
I think to them the number one Threat right now is Luffy in combination with robin ofc. So they will go after him like no one in history before. Giving him a bounty never before seen.
10billion incoming
[Yonko] Teach: 5,496,000,000
[New Yonko] Luffy: 5,000,000,000
[Fallen Yonko] Kaido: 4,611,000,000
[Fallen Yonko] Big Mom: 4,388,000,000
[Yonko] Shanks: 4,048,900,000
[New Yonko] Charlotte Katakuri: *1,057,000,000
*Think he’s the most sensible replacement for Linlin. Linlin fell but her military might still remains the same as opposed to Kaido.
Law: 2,500,000,000
Kidd: 2,470,000,000
Shiryu: 2,400,000,000
Mihawk: 2,389,000,000 *feels a bit odd to give Kidd & Law higher bounties than Mihawk but think both will get a 2bil raise. Who knows maybe Mihawk has a higher bounty 🤷🏾♂️
Laffite: 2,322,000,000
Weevil: 2,034,000,000
Beckmann: 2,000,000,000
Roo: 1,888,000,000
Ronoroa Zoro: 1,820,000,000
Vinsmoke Sanji: 1,777,000,000
Yasopp: 1,300,000,000
Burgess: 1,025,000,000
God Usopp: *1,000,000,000
Jinbe: 736,000,000 *higher than Perorin
Killer: 700,000,000 *could be as low as 500mil as he might just get a participation raise
Robin: 630,000,000
Franky: 594,000,000
Brook: 388,000,000 +300mil participation raise
Nami; 366,000,000 +300mil participation raise
Monster Chopper: 300,000,100 +300mil participation raise
*All the SHs will exceed 300,000,000
[New Yonko] Luffy: 5,000,000,000
[Fallen Yonko] Kaido: 4,611,000,000
[Fallen Yonko] Big Mom: 4,388,000,000
[Yonko] Shanks: 4,048,900,000
[New Yonko] Charlotte Katakuri: *1,057,000,000
*Think he’s the most sensible replacement for Linlin. Linlin fell but her military might still remains the same as opposed to Kaido.
Law: 2,500,000,000
Kidd: 2,470,000,000
Shiryu: 2,400,000,000
Mihawk: 2,389,000,000 *feels a bit odd to give Kidd & Law higher bounties than Mihawk but think both will get a 2bil raise. Who knows maybe Mihawk has a higher bounty 🤷🏾♂️
Laffite: 2,322,000,000
Weevil: 2,034,000,000
Beckmann: 2,000,000,000
Roo: 1,888,000,000
Ronoroa Zoro: 1,820,000,000
Vinsmoke Sanji: 1,777,000,000
Yasopp: 1,300,000,000
Burgess: 1,025,000,000
God Usopp: *1,000,000,000
Jinbe: 736,000,000 *higher than Perorin
Killer: 700,000,000 *could be as low as 500mil as he might just get a participation raise
Robin: 630,000,000
Franky: 594,000,000
Brook: 388,000,000 +300mil participation raise
Nami; 366,000,000 +300mil participation raise
Monster Chopper: 300,000,100 +300mil participation raise
*All the SHs will exceed 300,000,000
