Powers & Abilities Can Kiku cut through Diamond Jozu?
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Jozu's df should give diamond properties so extreme hardness but yet ot is fragile and indeed nobody cut through his diamond defence but Aokiji shattered it. So, imo, there are good chances his defence is even better than Kaido given it is a cut attack, a blunt one on the other hand could work even better than normal.
Kiku can only cuts through Jozu if he doesn't put on Diamond form or Armament haki on his body
Why?
I mean Diamond itself isn't even that hard of a substance.
Whereas Kaido is supposed to have a mythical devil fruit that makes him invincible.
Is Jozu more durable than kaido?
@Just a member
Okay but what do you mean "nobody cut through diamond". This isn't a fact in the story right? Jozu blocked an attack meant for Someone else and that's it.
There's no lore in the universe saying NOBODY IN THE HISTORY OF ONE PIECE HAS EVER CUT JOZU.
That's not true.
This is literally the same as Daz bones also blocking sn attack meant for someone else.
If you want to bring actual physical properties into it then Diamond is cut all the time. That's how they shape it. There's no reason to think there's no level of cutting that can cut Diamond even in one piece yet it gets cut all the time in real life
@Zoro D Goat
That hardest substance is cut in the real world ALL THE TIME. Have you not seen how Diamond rings are made?
Also Kaido is not "just a skin" it's a mythical devil fruit. It's power is literally to be invincible. That's like saying Bartolomeo's barrier is harder than Diamond to destroy because it's power is literally to be indestructible.
So again, Is Jozu the most durable person in the verse now? And where is the proof of that?
Okay but what do you mean "nobody cut through diamond". This isn't a fact in the story right? Jozu blocked an attack meant for Someone else and that's it.
There's no lore in the universe saying NOBODY IN THE HISTORY OF ONE PIECE HAS EVER CUT JOZU.
That's not true.
This is literally the same as Daz bones also blocking sn attack meant for someone else.
If you want to bring actual physical properties into it then Diamond is cut all the time. That's how they shape it. There's no reason to think there's no level of cutting that can cut Diamond even in one piece yet it gets cut all the time in real life
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You are comparing a skin to a diamond lol.
And beside, diamond is one of the hardest substance in the world lmao
And beside, diamond is one of the hardest substance in the world lmao
That hardest substance is cut in the real world ALL THE TIME. Have you not seen how Diamond rings are made?
Also Kaido is not "just a skin" it's a mythical devil fruit. It's power is literally to be invincible. That's like saying Bartolomeo's barrier is harder than Diamond to destroy because it's power is literally to be indestructible.
So again, Is Jozu the most durable person in the verse now? And where is the proof of that?
I will rephrase then, we have seen nobody being able to cut Jozu so far on panel and, not that Mihawk even tried but nonetheless, he took a slash from Mihawk with his chest and most likely not even Kaido can do that without taking some damage. And that hardness is due to his diamond df. Then sure, a Mihawk who is willing to do it most likely can cut Jozu just like Zoro cut Daz bones, sure.
About the diamond going by general knowledge it is the hardest material and so the hype it got at Marineford in taking Mihawk slash. Then for sure there are harder materials than diamond but it is difficult Oda will introduce them as a df. At best we will have a seastone df which is harder than diamond but I doubt that.
About the diamond going by general knowledge it is the hardest material and so the hype it got at Marineford in taking Mihawk slash. Then for sure there are harder materials than diamond but it is difficult Oda will introduce them as a df. At best we will have a seastone df which is harder than diamond but I doubt that.
Poneglyphs are harder than diamond.
Yet Poneglyphs can also be destroyed. Because the Kozuki clan has a way of curving writing into Poneglyphs meaning they can destroy it. Likely using Haki as well. So it's entirely possible Haki can just CUT ANYTHING.
Also we know devil fruits abilities outclass naturally occurring things. Bartolomeo's barrier is the hardest thing in the OP universe. It's even harder than Poneglyphs to destroy. Because the df ability is specifically indestructible. So if Kaido's DF ability is specifically supposed to mske him almost invincible yet Jozu's ability is diamond which in itself isn't even indestructible then by DF rules, Kaido should be above Jozu.
Let's try another route. Let's ignore Haki. Let's say we drop a nuclear bb on both Dragon Kaido and Diamond Jozu. By nature if their DFS, Kaido should tank this better than Jozu right? There's no precedent for Diamond withstanding nuclear blasts but you can say Kaido has a mythical DF that is specifically designed to be immune to all damage.
And then if add advanced Haki, Kaido's mythical ability is negated. So then the question is, Doesn't Haki just easily negate Jozu as well?
@vikas
Don't misquote things now
This wasnt even a named attack
That name came from a video game. Like how Shanks has red lightning in video games
Mihawk has never powerscaled his own abilities. That's why it was a surprise his casual attack sliced the ice berg
Yet Poneglyphs can also be destroyed. Because the Kozuki clan has a way of curving writing into Poneglyphs meaning they can destroy it. Likely using Haki as well. So it's entirely possible Haki can just CUT ANYTHING.
Also we know devil fruits abilities outclass naturally occurring things. Bartolomeo's barrier is the hardest thing in the OP universe. It's even harder than Poneglyphs to destroy. Because the df ability is specifically indestructible. So if Kaido's DF ability is specifically supposed to mske him almost invincible yet Jozu's ability is diamond which in itself isn't even indestructible then by DF rules, Kaido should be above Jozu.
Let's try another route. Let's ignore Haki. Let's say we drop a nuclear bb on both Dragon Kaido and Diamond Jozu. By nature if their DFS, Kaido should tank this better than Jozu right? There's no precedent for Diamond withstanding nuclear blasts but you can say Kaido has a mythical DF that is specifically designed to be immune to all damage.
And then if add advanced Haki, Kaido's mythical ability is negated. So then the question is, Doesn't Haki just easily negate Jozu as well?
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@vikas
Don't misquote things now
This wasnt even a named attack
That name came from a video game. Like how Shanks has red lightning in video games
Mihawk has never powerscaled his own abilities. That's why it was a surprise his casual attack sliced the ice berg
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So Oda is going to introduce a substance harder to cut than Diamond (Kaido's scales) before he ever showcases Diamond being cut into the story, despite the fact that he foreshadowed it hundreds of chapters ago? Seems pretty counterintuitive, unless Oda plans on never having diamond be cut, but then that brings us back to why foreshadow it in the first place.