Speculations Can Luffy ever command 10 CoC users at their prime?
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That's what Chinjao said, essentially!
Don Chinjao said, "only he who stands atop of those supreme kings can be called the king of the pirates." The Pirate King is bound to have multiple CoC haki users in his crew, under his command. The Pirate King is the conqueror amongst conquerors, he is the king of kings. The best examples are Roger, Rocks and Whitbeard; all of them had more than one CoC haki users under their command.
Roger Pirates
Don Chinjao said, "only he who stands atop of those supreme kings can be called the king of the pirates." The Pirate King is bound to have multiple CoC haki users in his crew, under his command. The Pirate King is the conqueror amongst conquerors, he is the king of kings. The best examples are Roger, Rocks and Whitbeard; all of them had more than one CoC haki users under their command.
Roger Pirates
- Rayleigh
- Shanks
- Oden
- Possibly Gabon
- Whitbeard
- Big Mom
- Kaido
- Possibly Shiki
- Oden
- Ace
- Possibly Blackbeard
That's what Chinjao said, essentially!
Don Chinjao said, "only he who stands atop of those supreme kings can be called the king of the pirates." The Pirate King is bound to have multiple CoC haki users in his crew, under his command. The Pirate King is the conqueror amongst conquerors, he is the king of kings. The best examples are Roger, Rocks and Whitbeard; all of them had more than one CoC haki users under their command.
Roger Pirates
Don Chinjao said, "only he who stands atop of those supreme kings can be called the king of the pirates." The Pirate King is bound to have multiple CoC haki users in his crew, under his command. The Pirate King is the conqueror amongst conquerors, he is the king of kings. The best examples are Roger, Rocks and Whitbeard; all of them had more than one CoC haki users under their command.
Roger Pirates
- Rayleigh
- Shanks
- Oden
- Possibly Gabon
- Whitbeard
- Big Mom
- Kaido
- Possibly Shiki
- Oden
- Ace
- Possibly Blackbeard
It doesn't matter who stopped Roger's rivals, what matters is who survived in the end. We all know that all titles in one piece are illegitimate and have no value: Roger never defeated anyone but he was called the Pirate King, Whitbeard never defeated anyone but he was known as the WSM, Kaido never defeated anyone but he's known as the WSC, Mihawk never defeated anyone but he's known as the WSS.
The point is that all of them at some point were lucky to end up at the top. Mihawk was lucky that Shanks lost his arm, Roger was lucky that Rocks died (or whatever happened to him), Whitbeard was never really challenged, Kaido was lucky that the old hag helped him. All of those guys are frauds who were lucky to end up at the top.
The point is that all of them at some point were lucky to end up at the top. Mihawk was lucky that Shanks lost his arm, Roger was lucky that Rocks died (or whatever happened to him), Whitbeard was never really challenged, Kaido was lucky that the old hag helped him. All of those guys are frauds who were lucky to end up at the top.
You didnt get the point. Pirate king doesnt mean he is the strongest pirate. Pirateking roger not even top 3 in his era. Same goes for this era future pirate king. Even buggy can become PK if he stole 4 pongly and robin.
Also reylegh at least suprassed rogers dead peak in decards ago. Garp compared both WB and old reylegh with same league.
Roger < living reylegh/shanks < mihawk The world Strongest swordsman top of all swordsman while reylegh living.
PK doesnt mean he is the Top1 strongest also he cant obey others him, if he can do that it will be shity writing ever. We will see it from kid,luffy thing.
Only 2 seats left. WSS - WSM
Last WSC will kaido
Also reylegh at least suprassed rogers dead peak in decards ago. Garp compared both WB and old reylegh with same league.
Roger < living reylegh/shanks < mihawk The world Strongest swordsman top of all swordsman while reylegh living.
PK doesnt mean he is the Top1 strongest also he cant obey others him, if he can do that it will be shity writing ever. We will see it from kid,luffy thing.
Only 2 seats left. WSS - WSM
Last WSC will kaido
Hmm, Let's see, in the possible Great Final War he can have these guys fighting alongside him:
1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Yamato
4. Ussop
5. Boa Hancock
6. Old Chinjao
7. Old Rayleigh
8. Katakuri
9. Eaustass Kid
10. Shanks/Dragon(if they're still alives) or some random who Oda will add with Haoshoku
It's not impossible, If Oda wants, can happen
Edit: I read the Prime part now , but whatever, Oda can just add 2 more randoms with CoC
1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Yamato
4. Ussop
5. Boa Hancock
6. Old Chinjao
7. Old Rayleigh
8. Katakuri
9. Eaustass Kid
10. Shanks/Dragon(if they're still alives) or some random who Oda will add with Haoshoku
It's not impossible, If Oda wants, can happen
Edit: I read the Prime part now , but whatever, Oda can just add 2 more randoms with CoC
Obviously. He's probably Joy Boy, his greatest power is to make allies, the Pirate King is stated to be the king among kings, other conquerors had users under their command and even an illegitimate dictatorship like the World Government has people like Sengoku serving it instead of going wild by themselves. I don't know about it within the crew itself because I don't think at all that Oda will give CoC to each Straw Hat, but by the time of the final war he's more than likely leading ten (and more) conquerors.
"From a statistical perspective" it's also incredibly unlikely for Luffy to meet and recruit the people with the most potential in their fields and that's exactly what happened. Luffy has been consistently finding the most capable Nobel Prizes ever and you find it "an absurdity" to have too many CoC users in the same crew?
"From a statistical perspective" it's also incredibly unlikely for Luffy to meet and recruit the people with the most potential in their fields and that's exactly what happened. Luffy has been consistently finding the most capable Nobel Prizes ever and you find it "an absurdity" to have too many CoC users in the same crew?
The Nobel Prize reference was a way to exemplify the reasoning behind my post, which is that Luffy has consistently met genius in their fields and people capable of entering the top in them.
Usopp is bound to become the most skilled sniper and is smart enough to build the Clima Tact with next to zero proper knowledge of meteorology or engineering. Your Nami's counterargument makes no sense, most Nobel Prizes work like a pack animal to get very good at their field, they aren't born experts; the fact that Nami is capable of perfecting cartography as a kid and is going to map the entire world is exactly what a top in their field would achieve. Jinbe's dream is pretty much what Martin Luther King, a literal Nobel Prize winner, tried to fulfill but couldn't. And Brook is a world-renowned musician with the power to affect people through his melodies (not necessarily Nobel Prize material, although we have Dylan's example right there, but you get the message).
Forget the Nobel Prize analogy if you want, the point is that Luffy has been meeting incredible individuals that are obviously far out of the ordinary; not only that, but most of the time Luffy didn't recruit them because of this as he wasn't even aware of their capabilities most of the time. And that goes so much against odds and statistic likelihood that your reasoning isn't viable, because "odds" don't matter in the slightest in a written story with narrative needs.
Usopp is bound to become the most skilled sniper and is smart enough to build the Clima Tact with next to zero proper knowledge of meteorology or engineering. Your Nami's counterargument makes no sense, most Nobel Prizes work like a pack animal to get very good at their field, they aren't born experts; the fact that Nami is capable of perfecting cartography as a kid and is going to map the entire world is exactly what a top in their field would achieve. Jinbe's dream is pretty much what Martin Luther King, a literal Nobel Prize winner, tried to fulfill but couldn't. And Brook is a world-renowned musician with the power to affect people through his melodies (not necessarily Nobel Prize material, although we have Dylan's example right there, but you get the message).
Forget the Nobel Prize analogy if you want, the point is that Luffy has been meeting incredible individuals that are obviously far out of the ordinary; not only that, but most of the time Luffy didn't recruit them because of this as he wasn't even aware of their capabilities most of the time. And that goes so much against odds and statistic likelihood that your reasoning isn't viable, because "odds" don't matter in the slightest in a written story with narrative needs.
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He can.
Best leaders are people who are able to make their dreams and the one of their underlings meet up.
Luffy wants to become PK and everyone in the crew is fighting and training in their own field to help Luffy.
Strawhats also have little or no bonds.
Whitebeard will join as he don't have bonds he was an orphan and looks for a family.
He will get it with Luffy. He's similar to Robin he's just more powerful.
Oden will follow him just like he followed Roger.
Rayleigh too.
Only problem is Shanks as we don't know a lot of things about his goals.
Best leaders are people who are able to make their dreams and the one of their underlings meet up.
Luffy wants to become PK and everyone in the crew is fighting and training in their own field to help Luffy.
Strawhats also have little or no bonds.
Whitebeard will join as he don't have bonds he was an orphan and looks for a family.
He will get it with Luffy. He's similar to Robin he's just more powerful.
Oden will follow him just like he followed Roger.
Rayleigh too.
Only problem is Shanks as we don't know a lot of things about his goals.
If the plot demands, yes.
WB, Big Mom, Kaido being under Xebec doesn't contradict their characters. It's just that Xebec have some kind of charisma that makes people follows him. And Luffy have that same charisma......
Whitebeard was legit giving order to prioritize Luffy's safety in Marineford.
And Hancock is already tamed by Luffy the moment he shows Conqueror's Haki in Amazon Lily.
WB, Big Mom, Kaido being under Xebec doesn't contradict their characters. It's just that Xebec have some kind of charisma that makes people follows him. And Luffy have that same charisma......
Whitebeard was legit giving order to prioritize Luffy's safety in Marineford.
And Hancock is already tamed by Luffy the moment he shows Conqueror's Haki in Amazon Lily.