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#61
What's problem?
Vista's swordsmanship is comparable to Mihawk, Mihawk's Haki is far stronger as WSS.

The stronger Haki the stronger the swordsman. Take Haki away from Shanks and Mihawk, they aren't that much stronger than Vista. With Haki they are Roger level
So do you actually believe without haki vista ~ mihawk
:sanmoji:
 
#62
"Pinnacle of swordsmanship" that crushes stuff purely with CoC blast without being able to properly cut, sure its the best swordsmanship feat lol might as well reading Kaidou's statement as "sword transcends all" after Kaidou mention haki transcends all
Lol maybe I’m not seeing it why are u assuming the cut isn’t clean when he is cutting the rail gun??? The gun is built with different things,angles etc why would u think it would just be a symmetrical looking cut afterwards ?
 
#63
So do you actually believe without haki vista ~ mihawk
:sanmoji:
Yeah, well Mihawk is probably physically stronger and faster as well
Vista should be close tho

Mihawk has lost future sight
AdvCoC
Barriers and everything right?

The only thing he has over Vista is physical strength or durability. Well with greater physical strength he can probably still produce greater attack tho gap shouldn't be that big.
 
#64
So vista swordsmanship is comparable to mihawks too good to know

-Vista showed swordmanship which is equal or superior to Mihawk in this fight-
Yes Vista 100% showed more than Mihawk did.

Having Great swordmanship doesn't make him the "Stronger" Swordman tho.. i mean Kinemon showed Swordmanship superior to Zoro in PH by cutting fire.. But Zoro was the "Stronger" Swordman.
 
#65
Yeah, well Mihawk is probably physically stronger and faster as well
Vista should be close tho

Mihawk has lost future sight
AdvCoC
Barriers and everything right?

The only thing he has over Vista is physical strength or durability. Well with greater physical strength he can probably still produce greater attack tho gap shouldn't be that big.
I guess
-Vista showed swordmanship which is equal or superior to Mihawk in this fight-
Yes Vista 100% showed more than Mihawk did.

Having Great swordmanship doesn't make him the "Stronger" Swordman tho.. i mean Kinemon showed Swordmanship superior to Zoro in PH by cutting fire.. But Zoro was the "Stronger" Swordman.
Kinemon having a sword technique zoro didn't doesn't mean he was a better swordsman

Like if oden, mihawk, or ryuma don't know firefox style doesn't mean kinemon is a better swordsman
 
#66
Lol maybe I’m not seeing it why are u assuming the cut isn’t clean when he is cutting the rail gun??? The gun is built with different things,angles etc why would u think it would just be a symmetrical looking cut afterwards ?
Seeing from Shanks' feat only, Zoro is already a stronger swordsman than Shanks. Shanks "cut" didnt even cut anything, it instead breaks the railgun into small pieces along the line of Shanks' movement. Its not a cut, just like CoC bombs exploded in line. Yeah so an okay swordsman with crude skills like that is not suddenly a stronger swordsman just like he has stronger haki or CoC.
 
#67
I guess

Kinemon having a sword technique zoro didn't doesn't mean he was a better swordsman

Like if oden, mihawk, or ryuma don't know firefox style doesn't mean kinemon is a better swordsman
I didn't say he was "better" but superior swordmanship as in having the ability to cut something Zoro does not. But ultimately Zoro is the better and the stronger Swordman between the two.
Vista using flowers in his swordmanship is also an example.
 
#70
We already know that there are pressure based sword attacks.

Keyword being "this fight". The databook was only talking about their fight during marineford.

Vista swordsmanship is comparable to a casual Mihawk's swordsmanship who's not focusing on his opponent.
This
I remember databooks/VC saying the same shit about Ace vs Smoker during Alabasta, how they "stalemated" each other. Or that Marco fought on equal term with Kizaru when they actually clashed 20 seconds
 
#71
Come on vistas swordsmanship shouldn't be actually comparable to mihawks just because a vivre card said so lol
But it is comparable and Oda showed us exactly that in marineford in the manga but again one important panel when it come to mihawk is this one


u can’t disregard it especially when looking at his character, heck Oda put in story that u don’t mess with shanks friends… shanks saw a fs event not even it happening in his face and he pops off and ends Kidd without a second thought. There’s nothing wrong with vista being comparable he still can not beat mihawk, it’s clear mihawk was not going all out at marine ford but I’m sure ur gonna find something here to disagree with.
 
#72
The real question is, how Shanks jumped all the way to Kid? Geppo?

This also proves that Shanks is fast and probably, the Film Red speed feat against Kizaru is true and can be repeated by him in manga as well.
 
#73
Seeing from Shanks' feat only, Zoro is already a stronger swordsman than Shanks. Shanks "cut" didnt even cut anything, it instead breaks the railgun into small pieces along the line of Shanks' movement. Its not a cut, just like CoC bombs exploded in line. Yeah so an okay swordsman with crude skills like that is not suddenly a stronger swordsman just like he has stronger haki or CoC.
Lol ok
 
#79
Divine Departure is exactly what the name implies: a giant knockback attack

I don't think it's purpose is for cutting the opponent, rather to knock them back or knock them out. All this tells us is that there are various ways in which swordsmanship can be utilized. I can't imagine someone like Zoro or Mihawk using an attack like this though, they would just slice and dice. It's unique to Shanks and Roger.

Oda is super creative and I enjoy that even when there are characters that seemingly overlap in ability, he makes sure to differentiate them and keep things fresh.
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It's like how Ikokku is used by giant swordsmen from Elbaf, an attack that Big Mom inherited (a giant shockwave attack).
 
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