Chapter Discussion Chap 1091: Great For Agendas

[Thaidakar]

People never drop their Agenda regardless of what is shown
They don't even care about the Manga itself, and They don't see Characters as just Drawings to help follow a Story

They see Characters as a Fandom, and They see Fandoms as Ideas, and if their Ideas conflict with their own, then They are gonna start seeing them & whatever revolves around them in a way that disapproves those Ideas they Disagree with & pushes their own Agenda
(This literally applies to everything in Life, it's just Human Pride, the worst thing ever)

If your Ideas (Regardless if Popular or Unpopular) don't follow a Strict Accurate Criteria based on observable unquestionable Values given by Official Sources, then you're Biased & your Opinion cannot be taken seriously, it's equivalent of Hypocrisy

People need to provide their Rules that apply on every single Character which they believe demonstrate this Manga's True Power Level System, if unable to, then They just say whatever suits them, and the dozens of Threads from same Usual Suspects demonstrates this dumb method

Thing is, places like this feed on people that are pushing agendas, hyping or badmouthing individuals for agenda's sake. It's what places like this live from, data traffic. It's also why leakers and certain individuals apply conditions on how and when they publish their information. It's literally the same everywhere. Hype, hate, whinings, controversies, toxic user behaviors, excessive wankings and excessive shit talkings. Human pride, the worst thing? We are, as species, profoundly biased in every aspect of our lives.

Is it toxic? Yes.
Is it necessary? Yes.
Just like haki blooms in battle, ideas bloom during discussion. Even if it's partly bullshitting around.

That said, let's have Chadbeard say the last words:cheers:

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

TLDR

 

[Ryuarashi]

TLDR

Kizaru will be defeated and Admiral stocks are plummeting.

 

[Herrera95]

Bro I know you love Kizaru to the point you believe he can solo the other Admirals.

Maybe, tbh idk if the arm ripped off this even confirmed.

Kizaru is losing here most likely, Shanks vs Kid happened, Kid lost. BB vs Law happened, Law lost. Luffy vs Kizaru will happen and Kizaru will lose to solidify Luffy's Yonko status. This is the exact moment that SHPs realized they were not ready for the NW. SHPs losing now would mean that the whole TS was for nothing.

Thanks for the panel I was looking at other ones.

Yes the ripped off arm is not confirmed yet.

Kizaru losing here makes no sense. Kid went for his battle with Shanks. He had option to run but denied. Law was chased by Teach but he also denied escaping from him(not sure if he had this option giving Van Augur DF). Luffy is the one choosing to escape. In this scenario we don't need a conclusive fight with a winner and loser.

Strawhats can win if they escape with Vegapunk alive.
Marines can win if they just kill Vegapunk and the other 3 objectives Kizaru talked about it.

Actually even with Vegapunk living both can win since Strawhats would succesfully escape with Vegapunk while Marines would still maintain the other 3 objectives.

I really don't know why they are bothering that much about killing Vegapunk.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Kizaru will be defeated and Admiral stocks are plummeting.

Nice fanfic

 

[vikas]

We don't need a chapter for agenda... There is enough stuff to make as many agendas as possible and no one can deny them for sure.. :cheers:

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Now lets hear yours

 

[God of Finance]

Some people will drop One Piece before they drop their agendas.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

It was right after his fight with Luffy.


Black hardening is a thing since post-TS, both from "questionable canon" stuff (Black Arm Zephyr, designed by Oda) and canon stuff (Mihawk telling Zoro to blacken his blade).

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We got stuck with the worst Seraph too.

I’ve never really understood this Rayleigh says armament is invisible, ik it’s been said by oda unles this is fake that armament was made black for us readers so we can tell when it’s in use… following this logic armament =invisible but it’s necessary in becoming a black blade like mihawks stated every blade can become black arnament haki is a part of that but it’s not everything.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Thanks for the panel I was looking at other ones.

Yes the ripped off arm is not confirmed yet.

Kizaru losing here makes no sense. Kid went for his battle with Shanks. He had option to run but denied. Law was chased by Teach but he also denied escaping from him(not sure if he had this option giving Van Augur DF). Luffy is the one choosing to escape. In this scenario we don't need a conclusive fight with a winner and loser.

Strawhats can win if they escape with Vegapunk alive.
Marines can win if they just kill Vegapunk and the other 3 objectives Kizaru talked about it.

Actually even with Vegapunk living both can win since Strawhats would succesfully escape with Vegapunk while Marines would still maintain the other 3 objectives.

I really don't know why they are bothering that much about killing Vegapunk.

You are somewhat right in the comparison, but none of the SN chose to go for these guys, they just happened to be there. Kid had already reached Elbaf at that point and it would have been out of character to not go at RHPs since he had already suffered at their hands. Shanks was waiting for Teach at Elbaf, Teach was waiting for the SN to come his way (waiting on one of the routes) and Kizaru was already accompanying Saturn because of their business with VP, SHPs just happened to land on Egghead around the same time.

The scenarios you paint can also happen, maybe Kizaru will prioritize his other mission of securing the three things rather than kill VP but that would seem very weird. VP knows about the void century and hence why he is being killed (we don't know if Punk Records also has this information). The whole point of Saturn and the navy was to kill VP and secure assets. It's just that when they learned that SHPs are also on the island they called for reinforcements (iirc). So VP escaping alive will be a defeat for WG/Kizaru.

 

[Herrera95]

Kid had already reached Elbaf at that point and it would have been out of character to not go at RHPs since he had already suffered at their hands.

Shanks was waiting for Teach at Elbaf

Nope. He waited for Teach at Wano. He just passed at Elbaf because he saw the giants of Little Garden.

Teach was waiting for the SN to come his way (waiting on one of the routes)

He would be fucked up if Strawhats got that island.

The scenarios you paint can also happen, maybe Kizaru will prioritize his other mission of securing the three things rather than kill VP but that would seem very weird. VP knows about the void century and hence why he is being killed (we don't know if Punk Records also has this information). The whole point of Saturn and the navy was to kill VP and secure assets. It's just that when they learned that SHPs are also on the island they called for reinforcements (iirc). So VP escaping alive will be a defeat for WG/Kizaru.

Yes. Robin also know or at least she is learning more and more and they are not sending 100 ships fleet to kill her. They just now raised her bounty to near 1 billion.

I don't recall they calling reinforcements because of Luffy. When they learned about it Kizaru and the 100 fleet were already on the way. The force is because of Egghead fortress power.

I agree that VP escaping alive will be a defeat for them but they would still have many things that could justify the delay assassination of VP.

 

[grey matter]

@Blazing Lion
If Zoro needs mid diff or more to defeat Lucci.

Would your perception of where Zoro is relative to Luffy change?

 

[RoronoaZorro]

OP, you didn't include the most vocal slanders in this chapter (it's from Twitter so it's better if you don't know about it) :

1. Sanji didn't CoO sense Lucci's surprise attack

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696999540996370526

2. Sanji has no response towards Stussy, a woman, got injured.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696895085831479666

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696867870729199622

3. Sanji's action towards Kaku isn't big brain at all, but a weak trait & cowardice

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696890991133839839

There's many more but it'll just taint your eyes.

 

[Redboy776]

Nightmare Luffy with 100 weaks shadow was extremely strong almost comparable to G5 tankman luffy .

So the 100x statement is Indeed true imo.

 

[vikas]

OP, you didn't include the most vocal slanders in this chapter (it's from Twitter so it's better if you don't know about it) :

1. Sanji didn't CoO sense Lucci's surprise attack

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696999540996370526

2. Sanji has no response towards Stussy, a woman, got injured.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696895085831479666

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696867870729199622

3. Sanji's action towards Kaku isn't big brain at all, but a weak trait & cowardice

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696890991133839839

There's many more but it'll just taint your eyes.

not telling kaku backfired
Bro literally said he doesn't need anyone as kizaru has arrived..

 

[Fn Lucci]

It's an evolution for Sanji (if intentional by Oda, he could have been just lazy) to lock down Kaku instead of getting fussy about pussy

 

[RoronoaZorro]

It's an evolution for Sanji (if intentional by Oda, he could have been just lazy) to lock down Kaku instead of getting fussy about pussy

Zoro took care of Lucci, so Sanji just leave things (Lucci) to him make sense.

The problem is the fans focused on :

"Sanji doesn't care about Stussy"
"Sanji locked a useless man"

Instead of

"Despite Sanji simps Stussy a lot, his mind isn't clouded by her situation and instead quickly care about his nakama, by locking Kaku"

Makes you wonder what happen to the community when a normal scene, or better for Sanji, got slandered a lot.