Characters That Can Permanently Kill Gerard

#21
I’m sure accelerator could destroy Gerard after all he still holds the number one esper spot after all.

He knows the human body very well to the point that he killed one of Misaka clones in a brutal fashion.

Still gives me goosebumps just remembering it
Still one of the hardest things to watch in Railgun. This scene slapped hard though.




Toshiro had power-nulling ice and that didn't seem to affect him. I doubt Spatial manipulation/erasure would work. Also fuckin Kubo and his vague answer, how high do ur stats have to be to actually destroy the core? He still gets stronger, bigger, and faster after taking damage, and he ended up being made of pure light near the end. Wouldn't the stat requirement to destroy the core increase as Gerard takes more damage?
Bankai Kenpachi > Yamamoto in terms of stats.
Don’t know what the connection is between Lille Barro and Toshiro, and if anything, it can be chalked up as Toshiro not reaching the tiny core within his body. Gerard was frozen but to a point where he could still move and bleed
 
#22
A recent interview with Kubo does show there is a weakness to Gerard’s Miracle.

Q475:
Gerard's Schrift, "M - The Miracle", holds the ability to "strengthen the injured part of a body via gigantification". When Gerard was cut in half by Zaraki Kenpachi's Bankai, something similar to a Quincy Cross came flying out of his head. Would it be correct to assume that it was Gerard's core and that had it been destroyed, Gerard would have been defeated?
A475:
Had it been destroyed he would've been defeated. Had he been capable of destroying it.

The core in question.




With this weakness in mind, name characters that previously couldn’t be argued to kill Gerard but now have a means to do so.

Standard combat scenario otherwise so they still have to be able to actually fight him too.
Yamamoto would turn this guy into ashes and Rukia's bankai could potentially kill him via insta freeze.
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A recent interview with Kubo does show there is a weakness to Gerard’s Miracle.

Q475:
Gerard's Schrift, "M - The Miracle", holds the ability to "strengthen the injured part of a body via gigantification". When Gerard was cut in half by Zaraki Kenpachi's Bankai, something similar to a Quincy Cross came flying out of his head. Would it be correct to assume that it was Gerard's core and that had it been destroyed, Gerard would have been defeated?
A475:
Had it been destroyed he would've been defeated. Had he been capable of destroying it.

The core in question.




With this weakness in mind, name characters that previously couldn’t be argued to kill Gerard but now have a means to do so.

Standard combat scenario otherwise so they still have to be able to actually fight him too.
Barrangan's ability might be able to do it too.
 
#24
Toshiro had power-nulling ice and that didn't seem to affect him. I doubt Spatial manipulation/erasure would work. Also fuckin Kubo and his vague answer, how high do ur stats have to be to actually destroy the core? He still gets stronger, bigger, and faster after taking damage, and he ended up being made of pure light near the end. Wouldn't the stat requirement to destroy the core increase as Gerard takes more damage?



SAFWY Kenpachi already negs Barragan's shit, so that's out of the equation.



It's not just better stats. Gerard still converts damage into power, size, and speed. So it's not just having more stats than him that would break it. It also explains why Yhwach was able to drain Gerard since it's not just a stat diff.



Bankai Kenpachi > Yamamoto in terms of stats.
I’m surprised nobody talked about Isshin the guy had two memorable fights.

Killed Grand fisher A and Aizen in his Chrysalis form still got beaten, but an amazing fight nonetheless.

Wonder how his bankai works if he had the chance to use it?
 
#25
Don’t know what the connection is between Lille Barro and Toshiro, and if anything, it can be chalked up as Toshiro not reaching the tiny core within his body. Gerard was frozen but to a point where he could still move and bleed
Toshiro's ice was absolute zero like Rukia's and it negates abilities on top of that. I'm just saying Lille isn't putting Gerard's core down with his X-axis. It requires something more than that imo, most likely some soul based ability seeing Yhwach just yeeted him with no problems.
 
#27
Toshiro's ice was absolute zero like Rukia's and it negates abilities on top of that. I'm just saying Lille isn't putting Gerard's core down with his X-axis. It requires something more than that imo, most likely some soul based ability seeing Yhwach just yeeted him with no problems.
Again, apples to oranges.

Plus Kubo said the reason Kenpachi couldn’t do it was a matter of power. He didn’t have the sufficient power to destroy it which just means you need forces well above him to be argued to do so
 
#28
Again, apples to oranges.

Plus Kubo said the reason Kenpachi couldn’t do it was a matter of power. He didn’t have the sufficient power to destroy it which just means you need forces well above him to be argued to do so
Sure I get that, but we don't know how strong full power Kenpachi is. Another thing is the schrift's ability to convert damage into stats. Does the threshold to destroy the core increase as Gerard takes damage or does it stay the same? We know the core's durability > Gerard's durability, so if Gerard can increase his durability and stats as he takes more damage, that would apply to the core as well no?
 
#29
Sure I get that, but we don't know how strong full power Kenpachi is. Another thing is the schrift's ability to convert damage into stats. Does the threshold to destroy the core increase as Gerard takes damage or does it stay the same? We know the core's durability > Gerard's durability, so if Gerard can increase his durability and stats as he takes more damage, that would apply to the core as well no?
Core seems to be fixed at how tough it is and again, most that can be argued is it’s tough enough that Bankai Kenpachi and Byakuya can’t destroy it

might play a part in the anime too with Kubo dropping this info
 
#30
Core seems to be fixed at how tough it is and again, most that can be argued is it’s tough enough that Bankai Kenpachi and Byakuya can’t destroy it
What gives the impression that the core is fixed at how tough it is? At least we know how the Miracle functions, so why would it not affect the core as well?


Also Byakuya is pretty irrelevant when it comes to Gerard, it's Kenpachi and Toshiro who should be worth mentioning. Gerard was swatting Byakuya's shit with no problems.


But yeah, hopefully the anime expands on this. If Kubo went out of his way to answer this, then he's more likely to expand on it in the anime.
 
#33
What gives the impression that the core is fixed at how tough it is? At least we know how the Miracle functions, so why would it not affect the core as well?
That’s it’s way tougher than Gerard and Kubo mentioning there was a required degree of power to bust it and no mention of it getting any stronger with Gerard’s Miracle.
 
#35
That’s it’s way tougher than Gerard and Kubo mentioning there was a required degree of power to bust it and no mention of it getting any stronger with Gerard’s Miracle.
Yes it's clearly tougher than Gerard and what Kubo said could either mean it had a required degree of power or that it needs some other method to destroy it.

Why does Kubo not mentioning that it gets stronger with the Miracle automatically mean it has a limit. We know the Miracle increases his stats and the core is a part of him. It makes more sense to assume that it also gets stronger as well.
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Gerard's core can be unbreakable and Ichibe would still quite literally rename it to shit, then proceed to stomp it.
Except Ichibei's powers seem to be negated by Soul King fragments (with high reiatsu).
 
#36
Yes it's clearly tougher than Gerard and what Kubo said could either mean it had a required degree of power or that it needs some other method to destroy it.

Why does Kubo not mentioning that it gets stronger with the Miracle automatically mean it has a limit. We know the Miracle increases his stats and the core is a part of him. It makes more sense to assume that it also gets stronger as well.
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Except Ichibei's powers seem to be negated by Soul King fragments (with high reiatsu).
Since the core clearly doesn’t regenerate like the rest of him does hence why destroying it is a possibility albeit a really hard one. And Gerard doesn’t get stronger without regenerating
 
#39
Since the core clearly doesn’t regenerate like the rest of him does hence why destroying it is a possibility albeit a really hard one. And Gerard doesn’t get stronger without regenerating
The core doesn't regenerate because it never took damage to regenerate. If you think about it the core was much smaller when Gerard was still human sized and as Gerard got bigger, so did the core. If anything, this supports the core being affected by the Miracle.

Also the statement of being capable of destroying the core doesn't necessarily indicate that there is a stat limit. It could also refer to a method of destroying it such as a hax. Yhwach overpowered it with his aushwalen which has nothing to do with stats.


When did that happen?
In the CFYOW novels, when the hollow absorbed the soul king fragments, he was able to break through Ichibei's power.
 
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